# I gotta ask..Zagadka..Why banned? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 3, 2004, 2:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835 "2004-12-03T02:39:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![MrFantsyPants](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ba0ec/32.png) [@MrFantsyPants](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrFantsyPants)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/21 "2004-12-03T13:49:01Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I’ll miss him since I generally agreed with him. I never thought he was that much over the line, however in reading the links to threads where he was warned, I can see where the mods were coming from. oh well, he seemed totally incapable of taking it to the pit when appropriate, and incapable of heeding repeated warnings. He really left the mods with little choice. Regarding his last-straw-post, I intended to pit Abbie for that thread, but never found the time (I like to very carefully consider things like that first). So while I agree with Zagadka’s sentiment, he’s gotta learn to take it to the pit. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/22 "2004-12-03T13:57:20Z")
I gotta say I HATED that google-eye shit too. I’m not saying I’m glad he was banned, I’m not (not that it’s so terrible to be glad someone is banned, it’s just a message board for Christ’s sake, it’s not like he died). But I won’t miss the stupid emoticon. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 2:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/23 "2004-12-03T14:41:11Z")
> [@](#): > > O\_o Booo! > [@](#): > > **zagadka** is banned. Yay! * * * The most recent thread I noticed **zagadka** in was [this one.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=289437) A half dozen posters are discussing the economy reasonably. **zagadka** shows up and craps all over the thread. Good riddance. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/24 "2004-12-03T15:52:30Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I’ll miss him since I generally agreed with him. You should think about this for awhile. I can think of three or four people that I generally agree with that drag down the discourse level and that I’d like to see gone. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/25 "2004-12-03T16:09:53Z")
> [@spooje](#): > > o\_O??? What is that? It means “I’m an idiot”. 🙂 > [@BobLibDem](#): > > I’ll miss him since I generally agreed with him. I think you’re missing the point of his debating “style”. You and I don’t agree too often, but I can enjoy debating with you because you generally stick to facts and are able to reverse positions if new facts warrent. Zag was just a partisan hack who started off with a conclusion, usuallys laced with emotion, and then worked the “facts” to support them. Just take a look at the threads he started-- almost everyone of them were classic examples of “poisoned well” arguementation. ---
**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/26 "2004-12-03T16:20:35Z")
> [@Brutus](#): > > Amen. I despise that chatroom crap. Man, I hated that crap too. I figured he got banned for using the O\_o icon every other post. That’s a bannable offense in my book, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/27 "2004-12-03T16:33:22Z")
> [@Reeder](#): > > Ah…an insult in GD. Yeesh! I’m glad no mods apparently noticed a couple infractions I’ve committed lately! Wait…if **O\_o** is bad is excessive use of exclamation points bad, too? How about starting sentences with **Wait…**? I may be in deeper shit than I thought. ---
**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/28 "2004-12-03T16:39:49Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > I think it is the chat/1337 equivalent of :dubious: I think it can also be read as :eek: or maybe a cross between the two. ---
**Author:** ![Roland\_Orzabal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c2a13f/32.png) [@Roland\_Orzabal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Roland_Orzabal)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/29 "2004-12-03T16:41:48Z")
Oh, come on. Let’s look at things from a positive perspective: o\_O is hilarious. I can barely look at the thing without grinning. Seeing it as a response to an argument would be near-riotous, I would imagine. It’s far, far better than :rolleyes:, which just pisses me off. Almost makes me wish I hung out in GD more often. I could’ve used the laughs. ---
**Author:** ![Strainger](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/strainger/32/244_2.png) [@Strainger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strainger)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/30 "2004-12-03T16:42:28Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Yeesh! I’m glad no mods apparently noticed a couple infractions I’ve committed lately! > > Wait…if **O\_o** is bad is excessive use of exclamation points bad, too? How about starting sentences with **Wait…**? I may be in deeper shit than I thought. If overuse of the word “actually” becomes a bannable offense, I’ll be completely screwed. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/31 "2004-12-03T16:43:34Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Yeesh! I’m glad no mods apparently noticed a couple infractions I’ve committed lately! > > Wait…if **O\_o** is bad is excessive use of exclamation points bad, too? How about starting sentences with **Wait** …? I may be in deeper shit than I thought. Excessive use of exclamation points, question marks, and ellipses aren’t quite as bad as excessive emoticons or acronyms like LOL or LMAO, but they are indeed a nuisance. When the revolution comes, you will have a week to think about what you’ve done instead of being first against the wall. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/32 "2004-12-03T18:45:00Z")
Wait, you actually think that this sentance is bad?!??!!?!!??!!??!! ---
**Author:** ![Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bites_when_provoked/32/18073_2.png) [@Bites\_When\_Provoked](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bites_When_Provoked)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/33 "2004-12-03T18:57:38Z")
o\_0 OMG… Wait… actually, it’s not so bad!!11! LOLOL I hate myself for doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/34 "2004-12-03T19:13:50Z")
> [@Khiadra](#): > > I hate myself for doing that. You’re not alone. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/35 "2004-12-03T19:16:02Z")
> [@Aesiron](#): > > When the revolution comes, you will have a week to think about what you’ve done instead of being first against the wall. ROTFL ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/36 "2004-12-03T19:42:40Z")
> [@dropzone](#): > > Yeesh! I’m glad no mods apparently noticed a couple infractions I’ve committed lately! > > Wait…if **O\_o** is bad is excessive use of exclamation points bad, too? How about starting sentences with **Wait…**? I may be in deeper shit than I thought. Starting a sentence with Wait…? isn’t so bad. It’s ending a post with **…What?** that will soon be a bannable offense [Og willing]. ---
**Author:** ![shijinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@shijinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shijinn)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/37 "2004-12-03T19:58:52Z")
**What?** * * * O.o ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [December 3, 2004, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/38 "2004-12-03T20:38:09Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > I’ll miss him since I generally agreed with him. Not me. I reported his “retard” post about twenty minutes before the banstick came down. If someone is going to be an asshole in a debate, I’d prefer them to be an asshole on the side that I’m opposing, not an asshole on my side. At least assholes on the other side don’t make me feel dirty myself. (Note that in the referenced thread, I wasn’t really on the same side as him anyway–but I was closer to substantive agreement with him than with the person he was insulting.) Daniel ---
**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/39 "2004-12-04T00:53:21Z")
To me, o\_O looks like an indication that the poster is so distressed by what s/he sees that s/he has sustained a brain injury (hence the mismatched pupils). Ouch! ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2004, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835/40 "2004-12-04T02:16:31Z")
History lesson: O\_o is one of several Japanese-style up-right smileys. They first came into use in Japanese online communities (duh), then spread into non-Japanese communities - particularly anime, manga, and video game Usenet groups, mailing lists, and IRC channels. All are text only media. This: :dubious: came much later than O\_o O.o, etc. It has nothing to do with 1337-speak. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-gotta-ask-zagadka-why-banned/277835.md?page=3)