# I guess I still have it

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 4, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291 "2013-08-04T02:16:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/201 "2013-08-06T22:49:44Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> My apologies to one and all for the over the top language.

$5 says Cartooniverse “spills” a drink on twickster next time she eats out.

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**Author:** ![Tequila\_Party](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a6a055/32.png) [@Tequila\_Party](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tequila_Party)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/202 "2013-08-06T22:59:04Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> I don’t happen to have a pic of the exact guys **Ducati** encountered, do you?

By all accounts, there should be at least 10 different videos of them on youtube. Creative works abound on there.

> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#):
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> You’ve got me there **echo7tango**. I live in an ivory tower. I don’t know from the mean tables of Steak n Shake. The seedy underbelly of the real world. I have no frame of reference by which to judge what I would do if I were ever to be in the peril of having some people swearing near me out in public.
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> Damn, I admire you.

Lol.  
I finally get where the OP is coming from. The bad ass “terrorists” really didn’t mean the bad ass Clint Eastwood type any harm. They were just Glee fans paying homage. If only the OP had broke into song with them, the entire evening could’ve been saved, along with the offender’s future.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/203 "2013-08-06T23:32:08Z")

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I really hope the next obvious troll gets banned with a “You’re done.”

Personally, I would’ve spiced this tale up with some Steak 'n Shake themed insults:

“In sight, you must be wrong!”  
"Orange Freeze, punk!  
“Time to Takhomasak…of shit!”

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**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/204 "2013-08-06T23:44:25Z")

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If you don’t buy the story of the OP ( **ducati** , okay so you don’t buy his story. But I don’t see the term “troll” as appropriate here. He has been here 9 years, and has well over a thousand posts. You can call him a bullshitter, or a loudmouth, or whatever you wish. But troll is not the right term.

Maybe he came in here for a little sneak bragging, maybe the incident happened exactly like he said, or maybe it was _almost_ like what he posted, but with a little extra sizzle in the retelling. I don’t know, and neither do you.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/205 "2013-08-06T23:57:35Z")

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> [@leftfield6](#):
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> If you don’t buy the story of the OP ( **ducati** , okay so you don’t buy his story. But I don’t see the term “troll” as appropriate here. He has been here 9 years, and has well over a thousand posts. You can call him a bullshitter, or a loudmouth, or whatever you wish. But troll is not the right term.

Oops, let me clarify - I didn’t mean **ducati** was a troll; I meant I was hoping that the next obvious troll we get, like the Glaswegian in a wheelchair, gets closed with “You’re done.”

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/206 "2013-08-07T00:08:36Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> In the mirth of the thread, I just want to restate my position… For the sake of discussion…if someone tosses a drink at me, fuck that. It’s on. I don’t think anyone would be a tough guy for shutting that particular shit down.

Even if its an unopened bottle of 18 year old Glenfiddich?! You crazy woman! :eek:

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/207 "2013-08-07T01:43:28Z")

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> [@VinylTurnip](#):
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> I could show you, but then I’d have killed you.

Just when you think this thread can’t get any more awesome…

> [@leftfield6](#):
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> Thank you. And _The League_ has been added to my Netflix queue.

We have now searched for it, too. We don’t have it. Son of a whore. Once again, the world’s prejudice against Canadians rears its ugly head.

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**Author:** ![Lucas\_Jackson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lucas_jackson/32/303_2.png) [@Lucas\_Jackson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lucas_Jackson)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/208 "2013-08-07T02:05:06Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> We have now searched for it, too. We don’t have it. Son of a whore. Once again, the world’s prejudice against Canadians rears its ugly head.

I don’t know… if that clip is representative I’d say you dodged the bullet.

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**Author:** ![llcoolbj77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@llcoolbj77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/llcoolbj77)\
**Post date:** [August 7, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/209 "2013-08-07T15:16:26Z")

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> [@Phnord\_Prephect](#):
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> If we assume the child and his family aren’t rich enough to have a private lawyer on retainer, and a good one, it’s likely this kid will now have a criminal record. Public attorneys aren’t worth the ‘nothing’ you can afford to pay one, if you need one.

I wanted to pit \*\*Phnord Prephect \*\*for this. Or at least call him out in this thread. But then I had to read the thread to make sure no one else did. By the time I got to the end I was laughing too hard to care.

Thanks Dope!

ps. In honor of the 50th Anniversary of _Gideon v. Wainwright_… shove it right up your piehole, **Phnord Prephect**!

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**Author:** ![Phnord\_Prephect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/df705f/32.png) [@Phnord\_Prephect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phnord_Prephect)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/210 "2013-08-08T07:54:28Z")

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> [@llcoolbj77](#):
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> I wanted to pit \*\*Phnord Prephect \*\*for this. Or at least call him out in this thread. But then I had to read the thread to make sure no one else did. By the time I got to the end I was laughing too hard to care.
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> Thanks Dope!
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> ps. In honor of the 50th Anniversary of _Gideon v. Wainwright_… shove it right up your piehole, **Phnord Prephect**!

Well, judging by your reaction, I have to assume you’ve never been in a position to actually need a court-appointed attorney.

And hence, have probably never been screwed over by said attorney, nor had to pay for said ‘free’ attorney anyway as a result of his doing absolutely nothing to assist you in your case, nor had losing that case affect literally the rest of your life, despite the actual ‘offense’ being so minor that it would be laughable were it not on the books as a major crime.

I have.

And my ‘piehole’ is exit-only, thank you \*very \*much, despite my time in prison as a direct result of this experience. :mad:

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 10:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/211 "2013-08-08T10:01:21Z")

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What the hell, Phnord? How can your piehole be exit only? You’ll starve!

ETA: Unless…Have I been wrong about what piehole means my entire life?? Has my whole life been a lie?

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**Author:** ![Phnord\_Prephect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/df705f/32.png) [@Phnord\_Prephect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Phnord_Prephect)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 10:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/212 "2013-08-08T10:08:46Z")

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Well, let’s just say I don’t put crackers in there!:eek:

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 12:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/213 "2013-08-08T12:26:10Z")

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Urban Dictionary says “piehole: the human mouth”, so I think crackers are acceptable!

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**Author:** ![llcoolbj77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/eb9ed0/32.png) [@llcoolbj77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/llcoolbj77)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/214 "2013-08-08T14:01:46Z")

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> [@Phnord\_Prephect](#):
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> Well, judging by your reaction, I have to assume you’ve never been in a position to actually need a court-appointed attorney.
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> And hence, have probably never been screwed over by said attorney, nor had to pay for said ‘free’ attorney anyway as a result of his doing absolutely nothing to assist you in your case, nor had losing that case affect literally the rest of your life, despite the actual ‘offense’ being so minor that it would be laughable were it not on the books as a major crime.
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> I have.
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> And my ‘piehole’ is exit-only, thank you \*very \*much, despite my time in prison as a direct result of this experience. :mad:

You’re right. I have not had that happen to me. I have, however, dedicated the last 8 years of my life defending indigent clients. I do a damn good job, too. I care deeply about my clients and I take it home with me.

My office has an excellent reputation. Our deputy just recieved the highest honor given by the [National Association of Criminal Defense Lawyers](http://www.nacdl.org/NewsReleases.aspx?id=28732)last week.

Virginia has done a pretty good job making sure indigent clients are well represented, both by public defenders, and court appointed attorneys.

Again, I am sorry about your personal experience. But there are shitty attorneys and great attorneys, just like any other profession. I’d suggest that in Virginia, at least, the shitty attorneys don’t last long at the public defender’s office.

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**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/215 "2013-08-08T14:23:29Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> ETA: Unless…Have I been wrong about what piehole means my entire life?? Has my whole life been a lie?

Nah. “Piehole” means what it’s always meant: the hole where you shove pie down, i.e. your mouth. Otherwise, “shut your piehole” takes on a really odd meaning.

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**Author:** ![SpeedwayRyan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce7236/32.png) [@SpeedwayRyan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpeedwayRyan)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/216 "2013-08-08T20:32:20Z")

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> [@ducati](#):
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> Maybe you don’t want to judge people by their appearance, and that’s OK. It works for me, and I got exactly what I expected:dubious:

Why don’t you judge them by their actions, instead? Or maybe you could have just performed the wrist-lock at first sight of them, since you knew how it would play out.

I have stretched earlobes and tattoos (mostly non-visible when I’m out to dinner, though), and I used to have a lot of other visible piercings. I’m a husband, a father, a creative professional, a homeowner, and I’m exceedingly polite in public – especially to those who have done nothing to piss me off. I wouldn’t think of using foul language near a table full of kids, and I’ve never in my life dumped a drink on someone in a diner.

I’ve known a lot of people over the years who look like me that are some of the nicest, most polite people you could hope for. That’s probably why this line really annoys me. But hey, it works for you.

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/217 "2013-08-08T20:41:16Z")

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> [@pulykamell](#):
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> Nah. “Piehole” means what it’s always meant: the hole where you shove pie down, i.e. your mouth. Otherwise, “shut your piehole” takes on a really odd meaning.

I’ve also heard “cakehole” used to mean the same thing.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/218 "2013-08-08T20:54:03Z")

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> [@SpeedwayRyan](#):
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> Why don’t you judge them by their actions, instead? Or maybe you could have just performed the wrist-lock at first sight of them, since you knew how it would play out.
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> I have stretched earlobes and tattoos (mostly non-visible when I’m out to dinner, though), and I used to have a lot of other visible piercings. I’m a husband, a father, a creative professional, a homeowner, and I’m exceedingly polite in public – especially to those who have done nothing to piss me off. I wouldn’t think of using foul language near a table full of kids, and I’ve never in my life dumped a drink on someone in a diner.
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> I’ve known a lot of people over the years who look like me that are some of the nicest, most polite people you could hope for. That’s probably why this line really annoys me. But hey, it works for you.

Luckily most people in this thread don’t subscribe to **ducati** ’s self-professed judging of a book by its cover. As for me, 100% of the guys who have hassled or hurt me enough to have a lasting effect (I.e., more than just a cat call) have been preppy white guys. I have had a lot more to fear from them than the kids with the tattoos and the gauges.

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/219 "2013-08-08T20:57:18Z")

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> [@SpeedwayRyan](#):
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> Why don’t you judge them by their actions, instead? Or maybe you could have just performed the wrist-lock at first sight of them, since you knew how it would play out.

This is what I would suggest.

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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [August 8, 2013, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/220 "2013-08-08T21:09:32Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> I’ve also heard “cakehole” used to mean the same thing.

I think the other end is a “cram hole”, hence “Cram it in your cram hole!”

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