# I guess I still have it

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 4, 2013, 2:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291 "2013-08-04T02:16:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/161 "2013-08-06T18:47:46Z")

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Jimmy Chitwood, you can either stop trying to explain this to Zebra, or I can break your arm. Your choice.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/162 "2013-08-06T18:54:48Z")

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You’re done, cockgobbler! Enough of your palaver and carpet-bagging!

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/163 "2013-08-06T18:59:02Z")

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Look around you, asshole. **dopers stand around videotaping everything to support terrorist charges**

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/164 "2013-08-06T19:01:32Z")

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I’m cracking up again all of a sudden! Heeee! Dopers were like. “Well done, ducati!”

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/165 "2013-08-06T19:03:32Z")

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All I see is a bunch of crackers who need drinks thrown on them.

I’m talkin’ 'bout a _serious_ drink throwing.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/166 "2013-08-06T19:09:27Z")

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For the most part I don’t worry about how people look, the color of dye in their hair, tats or not, etc. I care more about _ **what they do** _, and _ **how they act** _.

If the kids in the OP were clean cut and wearing business suits and dresses and they did the same things, I’d expect (and hope) **ducati** to do the same things he did that night.

Generally, though, there is a loose correlation between what people wear and how they look, with their values and how they act. Generally, and loosely - not all people; it’s a general tendency. Think of standard binomial distribution curves, one for the clean cut people, and one for those who have tats and many piercings and brightly died hair and such. I’m willing to bet that the mean (average) of the behavior for the clean cut people’s distribution curve is better behaved than that for the other group. I have no data, just real-world experience.

**ducati** I’m still in your corner. If I was there I’d have had your back. And I still smile and smirk at these Monday Morning QBs typing from the safety of their ivory towers and doling out judgment. But, hey, it’s a free country and we veterans put ourselves on the line for all citizens, including the bright green hair dyes and these Monday Morning QBs. Just behave yourselves and follow social norms or there’ll be the law you’ll have to deal with. And **ducati**. He’s still got it.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/167 "2013-08-06T19:11:18Z")

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> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#):
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> Look around you, asshole. **dopers stand around videotaping everything to support terrorist charges**

This was one of my favorite parts of this fable—calling a guy “asshole” to support fighting with him over bad language.

Also, were the drinks faux-spilled or thrown? Qualitative difference, IMO.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/168 "2013-08-06T19:14:52Z")

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[QUOTE=echo7tango]  
But, hey, it’s a free country and we veterans put ourselves on the line for all citizens, including the bright green hair dyes and these Monday Morning QBs. Just behave yourselves and follow social norms or there’ll be the law you’ll have to deal with. And ducati. He’s still got it.  
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And I’ll gladly stand UP  
next to you  
and defend this Steak n Shake  
Cause this ain’t that pothead’s first wrist looooock  
God bless ducati, yay!

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/169 "2013-08-06T19:15:50Z")

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You’ve got me there **echo7tango**. I live in an ivory tower. I don’t know from the mean tables of Steak n Shake. The seedy underbelly of the real world. I have no frame of reference by which to judge what I would do if I were ever to be in the peril of having some people swearing near me out in public.

Damn, I admire you.

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**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/170 "2013-08-06T19:16:55Z")

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Pretty strong contingent that feels like this is fantasty. That was my initial reaction as well.

If so, does that count as trolling?

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**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/171 "2013-08-06T19:39:25Z")

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> [@lorene](#):
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> This was one of my favorite parts of this fable—calling a guy “asshole” to support fighting with him over bad language.
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> Also, were the drinks faux-spilled or thrown? Qualitative difference, IMO.

Crippling irony aside, my favorite part was “You’re done.” And they didn’t laugh at him? I would have laughed my dick off. That was even better than the part about a heavyset old man sending a teenager to the floor in tears \*and \*the part about the terrorist charges (LOL!) combined. You’re done. Ahahahahaha.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/172 "2013-08-06T19:46:35Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> You’re done, cockgobbler! Enough of your palaver and carpet-bagging!

I prefer the phrase “shut your dick-sucker.” (Thanks, **Girlundone**. That’s become my new favourite phrase.) 😃

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/173 "2013-08-06T19:52:08Z")

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> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> All I see is a bunch of crackers who need drinks thrown on them.
> 
> I’m talkin’ 'bout a _serious_ drink throwing.

What, like milk?

> [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](#):
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> And I’ll gladly stand UP  
> next to you  
> and defend this Steak n Shake  
> Cause this ain’t that pothead’s first wrist looooock  
> God bless ducati, yay!

:golf clap:

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**Author:** ![Learjeff](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/94ad74/32.png) [@Learjeff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Learjeff)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/174 "2013-08-06T19:56:56Z")

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> [@Phnord\_Prephect](#):
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> I’d just like to point out that this kid’s life is, most likely, ruined. Because somebody didn’t like the words he was using.

:rolleyes: First, he’ll probably cop a plea to a misdemeanor. (I’m interested to see how that pans out.) Second, he had a lesson coming, and he got it.

> [@Glazer](#):
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> Hey girl,  
> White people wouldn’t really say something to a black person calling other white people Cracker. We mostly think it’s funny. Even when it’s directed at me it makes me giggle. Which can be dangerous if the person calling me cracker is really pissed.

I bet you’ve never lived anywhere near the Mississippi delta. I went to high school in FL, and I knew guys who, if I’d called them crackers, I’d have fewer teeth. Certainly in most of the US it’s not an emotion-laden term, but in some places, them’s fightin’ words.

> [@Phnord\_Prephect](#):
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> One’s right to free speech is not and should not be limited by another’s right to not be annoyed.

That’s your opinion, and you’re entitled to it, but I sure hope you don’t exercise your freedom around me, or I might exercise mine.

> [@](#):
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> I’d like to know if there was a single word spoken that the OPs family didn’t already know and use themselves, when out of daddy’s earshot.

Irrelevant. I’ve seen people throw up, but I don’t want anyone sticking his finger down his throat while I’m eating dinner.

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> It’s my firm opinion that, while things did escalate and eventually reach the point where the police should be involved, it was ultimately the fault of the OP for butting in where he wasn’t welcome. They’re not your children; you shouldn’t be telling them what language is or is not acceptable in public.

Evidently, his intervention was welcome. Furthermore, he’s not your kid, so who are you to tell him what he should and shouldn’t do?

> [@](#):
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> The OP picked a fight, it got out of hand, and he won. And now the justice system has to deal with it. I’m sorry but I just can’t approve of any of this; everyone involved was wrong at some point, and if the OP hadn’t brought any there wouldn’t have been any.

yes there would, but it would have gone unpunished. People are responsible for their behavior in public, and understanding what’s acceptable and what’s not. The OP may have engaged in risky behavior, but that’s his problem. As it is, kids who needed a lesson got it. If they’d learned more quickly, they wouldn’t be in as deep trouble as they may be. But I do bet they get off with a plea bargain. Whether they get a clue is another matter, but if they don’t, they’re headed for much bigger trouble, and you can’t blame the OP on that. He may have actually saved them a lot more trouble.

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/175 "2013-08-06T20:00:28Z")

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> [@MeanOldLady](#):
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> Crippling irony aside, my favorite part was “You’re done.” And they didn’t laugh at him? I would have laughed my dick off. That was even better than the part about a heavyset old man sending a teenager to the floor in tears \*and \*the part about the terrorist charges (LOL!) combined. You’re done. Ahahahahaha.

My favorite part is that I get to have a new favorite part each time I read this thread. No lie.

I mean, “You’re done” is fantastic, sure. But then “I guess I still have it”? Gold.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/176 "2013-08-06T20:07:38Z")

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> [@Cartooniverse](#):
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> You’re not only a bully, but you’re an asshole, pal.

**'toons** , you’ve been around long enough to know better than to insult another poster like this. Dial it back.

**twickster** , MPSIMS moderator

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**Author:** ![Turpentine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecd19e/32.png) [@Turpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turpentine)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/177 "2013-08-06T20:08:03Z")

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All those people were recording this and I couldn’t find it on Youtube. Bummer.

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/178 "2013-08-06T20:24:48Z")

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You have to search for “Swear jar coordinator/dictator/educator rattles sabre at invader; is agitator, puts race traitor skater on down escalator, all agree: great theater.”

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/179 "2013-08-06T20:27:44Z")

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Jimmy on a roll!

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**Author:** ![Sateryn76](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e4f/32.png) [@Sateryn76](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sateryn76)\
**Post date:** [August 6, 2013, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-i-still-have-it/665291/180 "2013-08-06T20:29:50Z")

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Dude…I have such a mental picture of you. Kinda like that old guy in those creepy late 60s Tom and Jerry cartoons, mixed with Ralph Steadman’s illustration of the cop convention in Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas.

Really? “You’re done” Here’s my question - if they’re adults, and you want them charged as adults for breaking the “rules of society” (note - where do I get a copy?), why didn’t you address them as such? A rule of society is that you treat people respectfully, even if they’re assholes. If you choose to talk to adults as if they are children, then you’re the jerk.

And if they’re children to you, then you’re still the jerk. “Kids” do stupid stuff almost constantly - you did, I did, we all did. It’s called being a kid. And while it is proper for adults to model good behavior and try to teach lessons to kids, a physical beating is not an acceptable way to do it. When did you stop beating your kids to teach them lessons?

Really, if this seems okay to you, and you don’t feel even a little bit bad in retrospect, seeing as they now have criminal records for saying cocksucker and tossing a drink on you, then, well…I cannot say what I think. Unless calling you a hillbilly moron is acceptable here. Seriously - is this what you want you kids to learn is good? It would have been far, far more awesome if you had stepped aside, leaving the kid/adult to toss his drink into nothingness, and then firing off a good one-liner, sweeping out the door, and leaving him looking like the fool he was. Maybe something like “Nice aim, cocksucker” and going off into the night.

One other word for you, that I think you’ll understand…“murder boner”

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