# I Guess this Rich Fuckin' Banker \[Dominique Strauss-Kahn\] is Too Cheap to Hire a Hooker **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 15, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956 "2011-05-15T02:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/81 "2011-05-16T06:11:02Z")
The French (based on the news comments I’ve seen so far) seemed convinced this is a honey trap of some sort by his political enemies. The problem with that supposition is this maid has been employed by this hotel for over 2 years with no issues. Beyond this the charge is not that he made a clumsy pass at her, but that he chased down, restrained her and molested her anally or orally. This isn’t a Kobe Bryant type scenario with a he said/she said battle over consensual sex vs rape misunderstanding. This is a straight attack. He has a big reputation as a seductive player, if there’s more than that and he really has a track record (per the French interviewers story) of violently going after women it’s probable these stories are going to start coming out of the woodwork in France. The question here is why a man at the apex of his career and professional power with enough resources to buy a roomful of escorts would do this. Some in this thread dismiss this aspect and say “His status doesn’t matter, he a rapist and raping and assault is what what they do.” I think this is a bit too simple. For a person of huge reputation to assault a strange maid and effectively flush his entire professional life down the toilet means there is a break with reality going on somewhere in this person’s head. If what the maid said he did is true this wasn’t even a opportunistic assault where he had some way to have gotten away with it. This was a virtual guarantee of arrest. If what she says proves out I suspect he will claim some sort of mental dysfunction. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/82 "2011-05-16T06:17:15Z")
Eh, see Eliot Spitzer (not that he attacked anybody, but did something completely needless and risky). Or any one of a hundred other powerful men who’ve nearly or actually flushed things away on something ridiculous. I imagine it’s some quirk of the psychology that propels guys like that to positions of power in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/83 "2011-05-16T06:28:28Z")
[Here is story with a lot more details from the NY Daily News](http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2011/05/15/2011-05-15_imf_chief_dominique_strausskahn_accused_of_sexually_assaulting_hotel_maid_taken_.html) It’s beginning to look like he’s boned. It’ll be interesting to see what his defense is if they actually have sperm DNA. ---
**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/84 "2011-05-16T06:31:53Z")
It could have happened, anything is possible, but… the way she describes the attack happening is so bizarre that it’s too hard to believe based on her words that he was naked chasing her down the hall and pulled her into a room and made her blow him. Two things are tough to accept these days: 1. Finding “DNA” or the dudes come in the room means nothing. I leave cum all over the place when I travel (wash clothes, towels etc…). I think most men do. Jerkin off is how we pass the time. 2. She says she was raped but it’s quite possible that she played along and cried rape afterwords when she realized who he was. Hell, the dude is a 63 year old geezer. I have a hard time picturing him overpowering a woman half his age, let alone running down the hall after her. It could have happened but it’s certainly suspect. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/85 "2011-05-16T06:49:03Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > … I think most men do. Jerkin off is how we pass the time… I had heard the expression “He has too much time on his hands” but I never realized… ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/86 "2011-05-16T06:54:14Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > It could have happened, anything is possible, but… > > the way she describes the attack happening is so bizarre that it’s too hard to believe based on her words that he was naked chasing her down the hall and pulled her into a room and made her blow him. > > Two things are tough to accept these days: > > 1. Finding “DNA” or the dudes come in the room means nothing. I leave cum all over the place when I travel (wash clothes, towels etc..). I think most men do. Jerkin off is how we pass the time. > > 2. She says she was raped but it’s quite possible that she played along and cried rape afterwords when she realized who he was. Hell, the dude is a 63 year old geezer. I have a hard time picturing him overpowering a woman half his age, let alone running down the hall after her. > > It could have happened but it’s certainly suspect. Re > [@](#): > > She says she was raped but it’s quite possible that she played along and cried rape afterwords when she realized who he was. How would this benefit her? Why would a woman trying to get through her day of cleaning rooms stop and give a BJ to a 63 year old man unless he was waving some serious dollars. IN the “she agreed” scenario I don’t see the financial upside to crying rape assuming he paid her. ---
**Author:** ![DragonAsh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/db5fbb/32.png) [@DragonAsh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DragonAsh)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 9:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/87 "2011-05-16T09:26:23Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > P.S: **Argent Towers** , while this has all the signs of a frame job, there are many similar stories that have surfaced about Strauss Khan these last years. If he isnt guilty of the exact story here, I would be surprised if he wasnt guilty of something anyway, and something criminal. > P.S.2:the ultra rich epithet is a bit weird for Strauss-Khan, he is quite rich but he isnt some bank CEO, just a powerful politician who specialized in finance. Not specifically touching on this particular case, but I would be very careful about following your line of argument. For example, one of the first steps in doing a smear job is to throw out _as much shit as possible_ to see what sticks to the walls. It can all be 100% fabricated baloney; doesn’t matter. Some of it might be close enough to a half-truth that people will connect the dots on their own - because most people do just what Zombie did: assume that ‘well there must be at least some truth here, he must at least be guilty of something’. Going back to the OP case: It does seem rather bizarre given the timing and such - news interviews I saw last night all noted his reputation as a seducer but violence seemed out of character (an alleged attack on Tristane Banon in 2007 notwithstanding). ---
**Author:** ![beartato](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9d8465/32.png) [@beartato](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beartato)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/88 "2011-05-16T10:26:18Z")
> [@astro](#): > > The French (based on the news comments I’ve seen so far) seemed convinced this is a honey trap of some sort by his political enemies. That’s not at all what I’m hearing, though perhaps news comments are a better source of info than actually being in France and talking to French people. The general consensus of those I talk it is that there are too many important details being left out to figure out the story right now. Everyone agrees Sarkozy benefits from it; few believe that this sort of thing could be arranged in this manner to bring DSK down. ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 11:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/89 "2011-05-16T11:23:53Z")
On the plane ticket thing. The Times reported that he has an agreement with Air France that he can just turn up and get on any Air France flight. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/90 "2011-05-16T11:54:18Z")
> [@DragonAsh](#): > > (an alleged attack on Tristane Banon in 2007 notwithstanding). 2007 allegation of a 2002 attack. ---
**Author:** ![Dante](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dante/32/9673_2.png) [@Dante](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dante)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 12:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/91 "2011-05-16T12:46:56Z")
Things not to start a thread about: Tipping Cat Declawing _scribble scribble_ Rape ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 12:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/92 "2011-05-16T12:52:59Z")
'Cause this isn’t Rape Month. It’s Abortion Month, silly. Didn’t you get the memo? ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/93 "2011-05-16T13:49:48Z")
Banon’s mother Anne Mansouret, who is also a contender in the Socialist primary, has confirmed that Banon spoke to her about Strauss-Khan, but Mansouret, to her regret, persuaded Banon to not file a complaint. Banon, who is the god-daughter of Strauss-Khan’s second wife Brigitte Guillemette, says that she may now file a complaint. Also, socialist Aurélie Filippetti, who is a député of the Assemblée nationale (the equivalent of a Member of Parliament), says that she was groped by Strauss-Khan. > **[Strauss-Kahn arrest: IMF chief may face new sex charge](https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13411463)** > > A French writer is considering filing sexual assault charges against IMF head Dominique Strauss-Kahn, already accused of attacking a hotel maid. > **[Dominique Strauss-Kahn: A Frenchman sunk by a sex scandal?](https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/8515714/Dominique-Strauss-Kahn-A-Frenchman-sunk-by-a-sex-scandal.html)** > > If the allegations against Dominique Strauss-Kahn end the popular IMF chief's presidential candidacy, it would be a first for France, writes Anne-Elisabeth Moutet in Paris. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/94 "2011-05-16T15:12:25Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Sorry, but a grown up having sex with a 13 year old minor is not going to be looked upon favorably in most of Europe. I dont think that’s what you meant, but it kind of reads that way. 13 is the age of consent in Spain. I know, I know, we’re in Africa… ---
**Author:** ![SecondJudith](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5ac83/32.png) [@SecondJudith](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SecondJudith)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/95 "2011-05-16T15:58:04Z")
> [@tagos](#): > > On the plane ticket thing. The Times reported that he has an agreement with Air France that he can just turn up and get on any Air France flight. Yes, I was about to mention this. ---
**Author:** ![LonghornDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LonghornDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonghornDave)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/96 "2011-05-16T16:03:19Z")
> [@Throatwarbler\_Mangrove](#): > > The characterization of the French Socialist candidate for president as a “rich banker” who “brought down the world economy” is especially amusing. No kidding. Only on this board could a career politician with a background as a lawyer with zero work history at a bank, that has been a member of a communist party, is now a leading socialist party member, and was appointed to head the IMF, whose primary mission is to provide financial assistance to countries with poor, emerging or distressed economies be referred to as a “rich banker”. Are you people really this clueless? ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/97 "2011-05-16T16:55:27Z")
> [@Hypnagogic\_Jerk](#): > > What I’m wondering is why you would think such a thing would happen. Is this commentary on the Roman Polanski affair? If so, maybe you should go back and relearn about this affair, and figure out that it was actually quite complicated. No, as a matter of fact, it wasn’t. It wasn’t complicated at all. ---
**Author:** ![Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e19adc/32.png) [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lady_of_the_Lake)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/98 "2011-05-16T16:58:30Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > \Hell, the dude is a 63 year old geezer. I have a hard time picturing him overpowering a woman half his age, let alone running down the hall after her. > > It could have happened but it’s certainly suspect. 63 is hardly geezer age. My dad is in his mid sixties and regularly goes canoeing in the boundary waters, which involves lifting huge canoes for long portages. Someone in his 60’s can still easily have the strength and agility to overpower another person, especially someone who has a more robust body type, as he seems to have. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/99 "2011-05-16T17:25:35Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Why the hell is an accusation of rape so different that we have to try to wait and see, but every other criminal or single news story is perfectly okay to get riled up about? They aren’t. The American and British criminal justice systems depend upon the presumption of innocence, no matter the crime. Next! > [@random6x7](#): > > This comment is really interesting to me. So you’ve got the evidence of two well-known cases where women have falsely accused men of rape. On the other hand, there’s evidence that rape is significantly underreported, and that false accusations are actually rarer than with other crimes. Irrelevant red herring. Presumption of innocence is pretty much an absolute. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/100 "2011-05-16T17:58:43Z")
[http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/05/16/strauss-kahn-imf.html](http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011/05/16/strauss-kahn-imf.html) > [@](#): > > Authorities are investigating at least one other case in New York of “conduct similar to the conduct alleged” at the Sofitel, McConnell said in court Monday. > . . . . > Without offering proof of his claims or the source of his information, Debre said the 32-year-old maid was not the only one the IMF chief had assaulted at the hotel. > > “It’s not the first time that DSK is involved in this kind of actions at the Sofitel,” said Michel Debre, an outspoken lawmaker from French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s conservative party, a rival to Strauss-Kahn’s Socialists. > > “That’s where he always stayed. It happened several times and for several years. Everyone knew it in the hotel,” Debre was quoted Monday as saying on the Web site of French weekly L’Express. I wonder how many more people will speak out now that the dam has been breached? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956.md?page=6)