# I Guess this Rich Fuckin' Banker \[Dominique Strauss-Kahn\] is Too Cheap to Hire a Hooker **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 15, 2011, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956 "2011-05-15T02:17:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/101 "2011-05-16T18:29:30Z")
> [@Cubsfan](#): > > 1. Finding “DNA” or the dudes come in the room means nothing. I leave cum all over the place when I travel (wash clothes, towels etc..). I think most men do. No, they don’t. If you wanna rub one out, you use toilet paper and flush or throw it in the trash. Leaving it “all over the place?” WTF, are you 13? ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/102 "2011-05-16T18:41:02Z")
Forcing someone to blow them? The power goes from him to the one with the teeth. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/103 "2011-05-16T18:52:41Z")
You’ve been watching too much _Oz_. ---
**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/104 "2011-05-16T19:02:36Z")
There’s no such thing as too much Oz. ---
**Author:** ![Duke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e8c25b/32.png) [@Duke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/105 "2011-05-16T19:25:24Z")
> [@furt](#): > > Nf you wanna rub one out, you use toilet paper and flush or throw it in the trash. Leaving it “all over the place?” WTF, are you 13? Hey, that’s the age of consent in Spain! ---
**Author:** ![random6x7](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8baadc/32.png) [@random6x7](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/random6x7)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/106 "2011-05-16T19:27:42Z")
**Quartz** , it’s hardly irrelevant when this sort of thing goes on all the time. Look at the scandals involving sports stars and alleged sexual harassment. The argument seems always to become “well, she’s doing it for money”. Is there a case where a woman falsely accusing a man of rape doesn’t have it backfire on her? Even in the Hamilton rape case, where the accuser did get paid a lot for her story, she was convicted of “perverting justice” and sentenced to up to seven years behind bars. I think the framing of these cases is an important subject, considering the “lying bitches” theme and the very low rates of reporting by sexual assault and rape victims. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/107 "2011-05-16T19:44:13Z")
> [@LonghornDave](#): > > No kidding. Only on this board could a career politician with a background as a lawyer with zero work history at a bank, that has been a member of a communist party, is now a leading socialist party member, and was appointed to head the IMF, whose primary mission is to provide financial assistance to countries with poor, emerging or distressed economies be referred to as a “rich banker”. Are you people really this clueless? Calling the head of the International **Monetary** Fund a banker doesn’t seem like a stretch to me. He was involved in negotiating loans, after all. Calling someone in a $3,000 a day suite rich isn’t a stretch either. And rich Socialist is not an oxymoron. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/108 "2011-05-16T19:54:43Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > Didnt see that in the news I got, I mean what happened at the airport (remember it happened Saturday evening for us, and we have only one major newspaper that comes out on Sundays). > > Well, the police was awfully spry. And if he was rushing to get a plane at all costs, while phoning to change his ticket, there’s gonna be shitload of evidence to back up the hasty flee scenario. JFK and midtown Manhattan are not exactly next door. There is plenty of time for the maid to report it, her story to be checked out, and the plane brought back. Given that a quick check of the identity of the guy would reveal the risk of flight out of the country, what happened was hardly odd. As for the cops hassling him, it is good to know that if you want security you should be some doper in Harlem, since politically powerful people in $3,000 a night suites are more likely to be oppressed by the man. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/109 "2011-05-16T19:55:38Z")
> [@Koxinga](#): > > 'Cause this isn’t Rape Month. It’s Abortion Month, silly. Didn’t you get the memo? Here, sure, but what about in France? ---
**Author:** ![LonghornDave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a87d85/32.png) [@LonghornDave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonghornDave)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/110 "2011-05-16T20:27:02Z")
> [@Voyager](#): > > Calling the head of the International **Monetary** Fund a banker doesn’t seem like a stretch to me. He was involved in negotiating loans, after all. Calling someone in a $3,000 a day suite rich isn’t a stretch either. And rich Socialist is not an oxymoron. The guy is a politician. The IMF gives foreign aid. Many of the “loans” are made without any expectation of being paid back. Also, I’m not saying the guy isn’t rich. However, the using the term “rich banker” as a pejorative is undoubtedly tied to Wall Street-type capitalist style banking, not Socialist style foreign aid politicians. Let me put it another way, Bill Gates is obviously rich. He heads up the Gates Foundation. The Gates Foundation as part of its charitable works makes loans. Should Bill Gates now be referred to as a rich banker? ---
**Author:** ![Martin\_Hyde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/47e85d/32.png) [@Martin\_Hyde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Martin_Hyde)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/111 "2011-05-16T21:54:44Z")
> [@Lady\_of\_the\_Lake](#): > > 63 is hardly geezer age. My dad is in his mid sixties and regularly goes canoeing in the boundary waters, which involves lifting huge canoes for long portages. Someone in his 60’s can still easily have the strength and agility to overpower another person, especially someone who has a more robust body type, as he seems to have. I’m not 63 but I’m definitely pushing 60, and if you keep moderately active there is a great truth to the statement that your strength is one of the last things you totally lose. A 60 year old guy is going to typically have lost a good bit of reaction speed, some flexibility, some agility, but will still probably be far stronger than a normal woman. When I was in high school my grandfather was in his mid-60s and not in great shape even for a guy that age. Between him and my grandmother they were effectively caring full time for elderly parents (most pushing 90…I have a lot of longevity in my family) and something I remember doing _all_ the time was having to help my grandfather move heavy pieces of furniture out of one of my great grandparent’s houses as they gave stuff away to other family members and things of that nature. I remember that moving stuff that required genuine effort from me, a fit teenager, my grandfather was still able to do and he certainly didn’t have _trouble_ holding up his end of heavy furniture. My mother would have been unable to do that at all yet her father who was a senior citizen could. Additionally when I make it out to the gym, I’m aware of at least three men age 50+ who can bench press 350 lbs and can still squat over 500 lbs. I’m aware of many more than that who can bench press their own weight, and some guys who look to be mid-60s or older I see at the gym and they are able of benching their own weight (180-220 lbs), 63 isn’t necessarily synonymous with “frail old guy who struggles to get out of bed in the morning.” And actually you could struggle to get out of bed in the morning because of general mobility problems and still maintain a high amount of strength. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/112 "2011-05-16T22:03:27Z")
> [@Two\_Many\_Cats](#): > > I Guess this Rich Fuckin’ Banker is Too Cheap to Hire a Hooker > [@Lynn\_Bodoni](#): > > I didn’t say it was only about power. I said power was part of it. Power might be all of it. But it’s NEVER purely about sex, because almost everyone can find someone to have sex with. It’s just a question of how much you’re willing to pay, or how low you’re willing to go in terms of looks and craziness. In this guy’s case, he almost certainly has political groupies who’s be willing to have sex with him, or he could have hired a hooker. Hiring a hooker is just a sex thing. It’s not an adequate substitute for a rapist, because rape is not just a sex thing. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/113 "2011-05-16T22:10:00Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Jesus Fuck Christ. > > This thread is less than a day old and the guy has already been convicted on the grounds that he’s been accused of rape before. Oh, and exonerated, on the grounds that he’s Jewish or that he’s being framed by the NYPD or the French government. > > Oh, and we already know that he won’t go to prison no matter what because he’s An Important Banker. > > Can we get some goddamn perspective and maybe chill the fuck out until we actually find out what happened? :eek: How dare you! I mean, really. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/114 "2011-05-16T22:13:22Z")
What I love about this story is there’s something for everyone, since the dude is both (i) a rich high finance-type guy (although not a “banker” really by any meaning of that term of which I am aware) and (ii) a socialist. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Panda](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ee7513/32.png) [@Darth\_Panda](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Panda)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/115 "2011-05-16T23:04:57Z")
Where’s all the anti-semitism? I was promised anti-semitism. ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [May 16, 2011, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/116 "2011-05-16T23:06:36Z")
> [@Darth\_Panda](#): > > Where’s all the anti-semitism? I was promised anti-semitism. You know who else was promised anti-semitism? ---
**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/117 "2011-05-17T03:14:12Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > 13 is the age of consent in Spain. I know, I know, we’re in Africa… You’re kidding me? Wow, you guys really start early. What’s the weather this time of year by the way in Spain? I dont know why but I think it would be a good time to visit. > [@DragonAsh](#): > > Not specifically touching on this particular case, but I would be very careful about following your line of argument. > > For example, one of the first steps in doing a smear job is to throw out _as much shit as possible_ to see what sticks to the walls. It can all be 100% fabricated baloney; doesn’t matter. Some of it might be close enough to a half-truth that people will connect the dots on their own - because most people do just what Zombie did: assume that ‘well there must be at least some truth here, he must at least be guilty of something’. > > Going back to the OP case: It does seem rather bizarre given the timing and such - news interviews I saw last night all noted his reputation as a seducer but violence seemed out of character (an alleged attack on Tristane Banon in 2007 notwithstanding). Not seducer, notorious cheater, and cheating by using coercion. That’s not something that would raise a lot of approval in France (being different from the classic mistress thing that is not a huge problem for voters over here). There has been more than one story, many tales of him being extrememly pressing when he tries to “seduce”, verging on the point of agression. Strauss-Khan was not the victim of a smear campaign, there was no reason to attack him in the last years. He did benefit for years from the fact nobody sued, nobody talked, and that it all comes back avalanche mode at him now is poetic justice. Maybe it was a honey trap, but I frankly doubt it. Still, I cant recall, in my entire lifetime, of such a crash and burn moment in French politics. The champion of the Left, possibly the next Prez, going down on a XIXth century boss-maid rape less than a year before the election. ---
**Author:** ![Koxinga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/4af34b/32.png) [@Koxinga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Koxinga)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/118 "2011-05-17T03:45:46Z")
> [@Capitaine\_Zombie](#): > > You’re kidding me? Wow, you guys really start early. > What’s the weather this time of year by the way in Spain? I dont know why but I think it would be a good time to visit. I hope this isn’t implying what I think . . . .? ---
**Author:** ![Naxos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/50afbb/32.png) [@Naxos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Naxos)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/119 "2011-05-17T04:22:15Z")
Perfect example of the disconnect of the imposed superficial economic system that everyone and their sister is bowing down in worship, and the reality of human nature that drives social interaction. This guy was paying $3,000 a night for a hotel. Take a minute and think about it. This guy had a biological induced dysfunction that made him abuse other people. This guy was making decisions that affected the lives of millions of people around the world. Live with that one. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2011, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956/120 "2011-05-17T04:41:37Z")
Jon Stewart had a great bit about this tonight. The clip isn’t up yet, but basically it was along the lines of “The head of the IMF raping an African? This guy is practically posing for his own editorial cartoon.” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-guess-this-rich-fuckin-banker-dominique-strauss-kahn-is-too-cheap-to-hire-a-hooker/581956.md?page=7)