# I hate Adrian Brophy

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [September 16, 2007, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361 "2007-09-16T01:29:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/21 "2007-09-16T19:36:01Z")

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[QUOTE=spoke-]  
See, this is just the kind of thing that gets spouted off about Affleck all the time on the internet, and I just don’t get it. He was outstanding in Hollywoodland. He was excellent in Good Will Hunting. He did a fine job in Dazed and Confused. He was good in Shakespeare in Love. Wherefore all the Affleck hate?  
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_Gigli  
Jersey Girl  
Reindeer Games  
Pearl Harbor  
Bounce  
Daredevil_

I could go on.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/22 "2007-09-16T19:49:25Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
_Gigli  
Jersey Girl  
Reindeer Games  
Pearl Harbor  
Bounce  
Daredevil_

I could go on.  
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I’m not sure what you think that list proves. That he’s been in some bad movies? Name an actor who hasn’t. To the extent the movies you’ve listed were deficient, Affleck’s performance wasn’t the problem.

And by the way, I’ve seen all those films Jersey Girl and Gigli, and I still don’t get your problem. I thought Affleck did good work in all of the ones I’ve seen. And a particularly nice job in Bounce.

Here’s where you admit that you are just hating on Affleck to try to fit in with the cool kids on the internet. 😉

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**Author:** ![KneadToKnow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kneadtoknow/32/3999_2.png) [@KneadToKnow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KneadToKnow)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/23 "2007-09-16T20:27:21Z")

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[QUOTE=spoke-]  
Name an actor who hasn’t.  
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[John Cazale](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001030/)

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/24 "2007-09-16T20:53:15Z")

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[QUOTE=spoke-]  
Here’s where you admit that you are just hating on Affleck to try to fit in with the cool kids on the internet.  
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I don’t hate Affleck. I’m indifferent to him and his performances. I haven’t even seen 2/3 of the movies I listed. My point was that he’s made a number of bombs and, since he’s the bankable star in most of them, he gets the reputation as the guy who makes all those shitty movies. He also IMHO suffers from the fact that Matt Damon, with whom he literally arrived on the scene, has had two successful franchises and a number of other commercial and critical successes.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/25 "2007-09-16T21:10:19Z")

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Bombs? Pearl Harbor, Daredevil, and Bounce all turned good profits.

As for the others, you could come up with a list of box office bombs for almost any Hollywood star.

Matt Damon’s bombs include:

The Legend of Bagger Vance  
All the Pretty Horses  
Gerry  
The Brothers Grimm

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**Author:** ![lobstermobster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobstermobster/32/10033_2.png) [@lobstermobster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lobstermobster)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/26 "2007-09-16T21:40:40Z")

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I haven’t seen this Hollywoodland and I haven’t gotten around to seeing the Pianist yet. What I do know is that I would DESTROY Adrien Brody in the bedroom. Oh man. Wake the neighbors, scratch marks down his back, debauchery. but thats just me

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/27 "2007-09-16T21:51:51Z")

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Adrien Brody was great in **Summer Of Sam**.

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/28 "2007-09-16T21:53:13Z")

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]  
I haven’t seen this Hollywoodland and I haven’t gotten around to seeing the Pianist yet. What I do know is that I would DESTROY Adrien Brody in the bedroom. Oh man. Wake the neighbors, scratch marks down his back, debauchery. but thats just me  
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So, you hate him, too. Good. 😃

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [September 16, 2007, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/29 "2007-09-16T21:56:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Fiver]

You know, every good showbiz thread should begin with a visit to the imdb.  
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Nah. I was just expressing my outrage at Adriencraptic Brodymoviebomber mucking up a good movie. The thread woulda been in the pit if it hadn’t been showbiz-related.

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**Author:** ![kelly5078](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/6f9a4e/32.png) [@kelly5078](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kelly5078)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/30 "2007-09-17T22:55:08Z")

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I thought Brody was good in “The Pianist,” although I didn’t think much of the movie. His role in “The Village” was not terribly demanding, and he didn’t do squat with it that I could tell. Not that there could be much to do in that suckfest. And that’s all I’ve seen him in.

And I like Ben Affleck. I especially enjoyed the hell out of him and Damon in “Dogma.”

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/31 "2007-09-17T23:17:11Z")

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[QUOTE=spoke-]  
Bombs? Pearl Harbor, Daredevil, and Bounce all turned good profits.  
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I think that just highlights the reason for Afflec hate: he makes bad movies _that lots of people see._ Sure, _Daredevil_ turned a profit, but do you know anyone who actually _liked_ it? I sure don’t. Everyone I know who saw it (myself included) said it sucked. He’s in movies that lots of people see, and that no one likes, so you get the result of a lot of people saying that Afflec sucks, because he’s the public face of those movies. When he turns in a good performance, it tends to be in smaller, non-mainstream movies like _Hollywoodland_, or supporting roles like _Shakespeare in Love_, so he doesn’t get as much cachet from his succesful performances as he deserves.

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**Author:** ![Spoke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a88e57/32.png) [@Spoke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoke)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/32 "2007-09-17T23:39:55Z")

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[QUOTE=Miller]  
Sure, _Daredevil_ turned a profit, but do you know anyone who actually _liked_ it?  
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Well, yeah, _I_ liked Daredevil, and I’m not alone. [39% of voters at IMDB rated it a 7 or higher.](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0287978/ratings)

And actually, I think Daredevil-hating is a symptom of the larger internet-driven Affleck-hating phenomenon. Which seems to me a pretty straightforward example of [the bandwagon effect](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandwagon_effect).

Yours truly,

Matt Damon 😃

(No, no, that’s not true, of course. I’m just some anonymous internet schmuck who happens to think Affleck’s a pretty good actor.)

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [September 17, 2007, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/33 "2007-09-17T23:43:15Z")

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I like Afflec, too, but _Daredevil_ was fuckin’ _awful_, man. Pointing out that people on the IMDB liked it only proves I’m right.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/34 "2007-09-18T00:00:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Fiver]  
And the first name is Adri **e** n, not Adrian.

**George** Reeves. Steve Reeves was an actor who played Hercules in several movies, but was not a character played by Ben Affleck.

You know, every good showbiz thread should begin with a visit to the imdb.

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You said it! This thread makes me want to scream. I’m really starting to hate this Adrian Brophy guy, too.

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**Author:** ![Caricci](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/85f322/32.png) [@Caricci](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caricci)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/35 "2007-09-18T00:56:43Z")

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[QUOTE=kelly5078]  
I thought Brody was good in “The Pianist,” although I didn’t think much of the movie. His role in “The Village” was not terribly demanding, and he didn’t do squat with it that I could tell. Not that there could be much to do in that suckfest. And that’s all I’ve seen him in.

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Adrien Brody was in “The Village”?

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/36 "2007-09-18T01:08:33Z")

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[QUOTE=Caricci]  
Adrien Brody was in “The Village”?  
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He played the village idiot. Insert your own punchline.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/37 "2007-09-18T01:19:15Z")

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[QUOTE=Caricci]  
Adrien Brody was in “The Village”?  
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No. It was Adrian Brophy.

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**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/38 "2007-09-18T06:20:27Z")

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[QUOTE=lobstermobster]  
I haven’t seen this Hollywoodland and I haven’t gotten around to seeing the Pianist yet. What I do know is that I would DESTROY Adrien Brody in the bedroom. Oh man. Wake the neighbors, scratch marks down his back, debauchery. but thats just me  
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You can have him when I’m through with him. Unless I keep him for myself. He’s one of the hottest guys in the business, even though I agree he can’t act.

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**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/39 "2007-09-18T07:45:43Z")

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My guess is that this thread was started due to Hollywoodland recently showing on HBO - and I too just saw it for the first time there.

Brody was truly horrible in the film - badly miscast.

The rest of the film wasn’t bad, but Brody dragged down every scene he was in.

And hey, I love Streisand and have nothing against people with large noses, but in one scene, with Brody lying flat in bed shirtless, I thought I was looking at the Matterhorn.

Now, if every appendage is so large, I can see the sexual appeal…but as far as acting, this film was not a high point in his career.

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**Author:** ![GrandWino](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grandwino/32/67_2.png) [@GrandWino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GrandWino)\
**Post date:** [September 18, 2007, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-adrian-brophy/419361/40 "2007-09-18T13:52:50Z")

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My fiancee met Brody at Cannes and she says he was “kind, funny, and humble.” She’s also firmly in the “thinks he’s gorgeous” camp.

Personally, I’m a huge fan of his acting. I loved him in _The Pianist_, and thought he was really funny in _Summer of Sam_. He was great in _Six Ways to Sunday_ as well (though I’m not a big fan of the movie itself). I also thought he was fine in _Hollywoodland_, though I didn’t think his part was written well. Bad writing can do horrible things to the best of actors.

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