# I hate America

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [July 9, 2004, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308 "2004-07-09T16:26:41Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/1 "2004-07-09T16:26:41Z")

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Sure, America has done some good things, but…

“A Horse with No Name” is one of those songs that get stuck in your head. And WTF is the meaning of the lyric,  
_In the desert you can remember your name  
'Cause there ain’t no one for to give you no pain_  
?

Still, “Ventura Highway” isn’t that bad, I guess, even though that’s where our boy Jesse got his name. And that “Tinman” song is kinda catchy.

OK, I guess when you think about it, America is pretty good after all.

Nevermind.

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**Author:** ![Hanna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/b3f665/32.png) [@Hanna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hanna)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/2 "2004-07-09T16:50:18Z")

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I have an America disc in my car (it’s my SO’s) and I really like Daisy Jane.

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**Author:** ![kniz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/c37758/32.png) [@kniz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kniz)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/3 "2004-07-09T16:54:55Z")

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And I thought that we finally were going to finally get a truthful confession. 😉

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**Author:** ![Slacker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6bbea6/32.png) [@Slacker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slacker)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/4 "2004-07-09T16:57:52Z")

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lol!

I thought you were going to tell us you were a… a… (gasp I can hardly say it)…

a LIBERAL! :eek: :eek: :eek:

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/5 "2004-07-09T17:22:53Z")

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I have The Best of Bread on cassette in my car, and the worst part is I actually listen to it. 😃

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/6 "2004-07-09T17:41:16Z")

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It’s Neil Young. I can’t stand him.

America without N.Y. would be…like…Canada: mostly harmless.

And \*Nevermind \* was by Nirvana. And I can’t see any similarities between them & America.

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**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/7 "2004-07-09T17:42:09Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> I have The Best of Bread on cassette in my car, and the worst part is I actually listen to it. 😃

At least Bread’s lyrics made sense. America’s lyrics were rubbish. “Alligator lizards in the air.” WTF?

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/8 "2004-07-09T17:50:04Z")

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> [@Inigo Montoya](#):
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> It’s Neil Young. I can’t stand him.
> 
> America without N.Y. would be…like…Canada: mostly harmless.

And yet, Neil is Canadian…hmmm… 😃

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**Author:** ![Jenaroph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e8c25b/32.png) [@Jenaroph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jenaroph)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/9 "2004-07-09T17:54:24Z")

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**sqweels** , why do you hate America so much?

Someone had to ask.

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**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/10 "2004-07-09T17:58:16Z")

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[Bull Shannon]  
That makes sense to me… but then again, so do the lyrics to _A Horse With No Name_  
[/Bull Shannon]

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**Author:** ![fishbicycle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aeb1de/32.png) [@fishbicycle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fishbicycle)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/11 "2004-07-09T17:58:22Z")

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OK, I have to ask. What does Neil Young have to do with any of this?

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**Author:** ![Indygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/58f4c7/32.png) [@Indygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indygrrl)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/12 "2004-07-09T18:00:14Z")

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> [@fishbicycle](#):
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> OK, I have to ask. What does Neil Young have to do with any of this?

Heh, he was the singer for America.

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**Author:** ![fishbicycle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aeb1de/32.png) [@fishbicycle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fishbicycle)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/13 "2004-07-09T18:09:33Z")

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> [@Indygrrl](#):
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> Heh, he was the singer for America.

No. He wasn’t.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 6:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/14 "2004-07-09T18:12:53Z")

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Well, Neil Young was certainly prescient about our “Kinder, gentler machine-gun hand”.

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**Author:** ![FaerieBeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e95f7d/32.png) [@FaerieBeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FaerieBeth)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/15 "2004-07-09T18:18:35Z")

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Favorite America Song: Sister Golden Hair  
😃  
FB

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**Author:** ![KRC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/45deac/32.png) [@KRC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KRC)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/16 "2004-07-09T18:24:24Z")

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What is this about being able to remember your name in the desert? I wouldn’t remember mine if it wasn’t on my checks. Yeah, there are plants and birds and rocks and things out here. Big Whoop. Those things are everywhere else too.

Didn’t Randy Newman say that song was about some kid who \*thought \* he’d taken acid?

When I start seeing purple rain I’m contacting the shrink.

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**Author:** ![sqweels](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f19dbf/32.png) [@sqweels](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sqweels)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/17 "2004-07-09T19:17:45Z")

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> [@Jenaroph](#):
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> **sqweels** , why do you hate America so much?
> 
> Someone had to ask.

I, uh, _gulp_, ah, humunna-humunna-humunna…

Ok, you got me. I’ll admit it, I don’t hate America. I’m a sucker for early 70s folk-pop.

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/18 "2004-07-09T19:23:42Z")

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> [@fishbicycle](#):
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> No. He wasn’t.

Cite?  
heh…always wanted to do that…  
Well, he was A singer for the band (not to be confused with The Band). In fact the one who uttered the song _A Horse With No Name_.

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**Author:** ![fishbicycle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aeb1de/32.png) [@fishbicycle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fishbicycle)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/19 "2004-07-09T19:39:54Z")

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> [@Inigo Montoya](#):
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> Cite?  
> heh…always wanted to do that…  
> Well, he was A singer for the band

No, he wasn’t.

> [@](#):
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> In fact the one who uttered the song _A Horse With No Name_.

No, he wasn’t. [AllMusicGuide is your friend.](http://allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDMISS70407091536172909&sql=B2umyxdgbjol0)

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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [July 9, 2004, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-america/254308/20 "2004-07-09T19:48:39Z")

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you can do MAAA-gic  
_pum pa-shiiiiinnng_  
You can do ANY-thing that you desire  
MAAA-gic  
_pum pa-shiiiiinnng_  
Oh baby, you’re the one who can put out the fire

please, get it out of my head…

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