# I Hate Beatles Fans

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [November 28, 2011, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-beatles-fans/604334 "2011-11-28T13:12:47Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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I watched, “A Charlie Brown Christmas,” last night (DVD) and the “Jingle Bells” bit still sleighs me.

“Gee, do they still make wooden Christmas trees?”

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> [@digs](#):
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> “The Beatles performed live in Hamburg, Germany over 1,200 times from 1960 to 1963

Gladwell should have done his math. That’s everyday for four years.

It was more like 250 times.

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-beatles-fans/604334/223 "2021-12-13T01:30:58Z")

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Yikes…come on! Tip your hat to greatness

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But Mozart might have:

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegelstatt\_Trio](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegelstatt_Trio)

> The German word **Kegelstatt** means “a place where [skittles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skittles_(sport)) are played”, akin to a [duckpin bowling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duckpin_bowling) alley. Mozart wrote that he composed the 12 Duos for Two [(French) Horns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_horn) (not [basset horns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basset_horn) as is commonly thought), K. 487, “while playing skittles;” on the first page of the autograph manuscript of K. 487, Mozart inscribed the following: " _Wienn den 27.t Jullius 1786 untern Kegelscheiben_ " (Vienna, 27 July 1786 while playing skittles)

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> [@CheeseDonkey](#):
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> Who were attracted to the Beatles when they were active? Screaming fanatical teenage girls.

Right up until “Revolver” was released. Sure, it had the silliness of “Yellow Submarine”, but the rest of it was an attention-getter and pretty much signaled the end of their teen pop era, while “Sgt. Pepper” left no doubt.

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> [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](#):
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> But Mozart might have:
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> [Kegelstatt Trio - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kegelstatt_Trio)
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> > The German word **Kegelstatt** means “a place where [skittles](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skittles_(sport)) are played”, akin to a [duckpin bowling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duckpin_bowling) alley. Mozart wrote that he composed the 12 Duos for Two [(French) Horns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_horn) (not [basset horns](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basset_horn) as is commonly thought), K. 487, “while playing skittles;” on the first page of the autograph manuscript of K. 487, Mozart inscribed the following: " _Wienn den 27.t Jullius 1786 untern Kegelscheiben_ " (Vienna, 27 July 1786 while playing skittles)

(Nice!)

This is where Lucy would say, “But did Mozart ever pick up a 7-10 split? Did he? How can you say he’s a great composer if he never picked up a 7-10 split?”

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-beatles-fans/604334/227 "2021-12-13T19:20:18Z")

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> the “Jingle Bells” bit still sleighs me.

This has been here for 18 hours and hasn’t been acknowledged. Burpo, I acknowledge you.

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> [@burpo\_the\_wonder\_mutt](#):
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> This is where Lucy would say, “But did Mozart ever pick up a 7-10 split? Did he? How can you say he’s a great composer if he never picked up a 7-10 split?”

In “duckpin bowling” (which seems to be what Beethoven played) you roll 3 balls per frame rather than 2. A 7-10 split would be a lot easier to pick up in that game, assuming you knocked the first 8 pins down with the first toss.

Then again, it only counts as a spare if you get them all in the first two tosses; if it takes you 3 throws then you get 10 pins counted but I don’t know if that counts as “picking it up”. (I’m only personally familiar with American ten-pin bowling.)

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( …it was a slow sleigh …)

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> [@CheeseDonkey](#):
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> Oh yeah, and their lyrics are horribly repetitious. Thanks for the reminder.
> 
> All you need is love, all you need is love, all you need is love, love love love love love love love is all you need, all you need is…
> 
> Hey jude na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na

Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto, domo, domo  
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto, domo, domo  
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto  
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto  
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto  
Domo arigato, Mr. Roboto

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**Post date:** [December 13, 2021, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-beatles-fans/604334/231 "2021-12-13T21:31:24Z")

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“Cake, cake, cake, cake  
Cake, cake, cake, cake  
Cake, cake, cake, cake  
Cake, cake, cake”

- Rihanna, _Cake_

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Or as one of the great poets of his generation said:

> [@](#):
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> Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie  
> Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie, la la lie la lie
> 
> Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie  
> Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie, la la lie la lie
> 
> Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie  
> Lie la lie, lie la lie la lie la lie, la la lie la lie

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A man hears what he wants to hear, and disregards the rest.

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Shucks, Paw, ‘tweren’t nothin’. 😉

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Now, I’m as sick of the Beatles as most Boomers, but I started watching the Peter Jackson Beatles “documentary” (really just editing together 60 hours of “fly on the wall” footage)…

… and I got bored of that after ten minutes. BUT I was blown away by their musical abilities; just their jamming and trying riffs or snippets of half-written songs… amazing.

And better than anything I’ve heard on the radio lately.

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(Except this of course…)

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/uR4if4ble1A/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AHeAoAChgKKAgwIABABGB8gEyh_MA8=&rs=AOn4CLB_KXtABgA1iLP76FNf8dTpnTapXQ "Styx - Lady") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR4if4ble1A)

eta: No, no, I repent. Do NOT click on that link! After a minute of Dennis DeYoung sounding as smarmy as an evangelist, he starts off the Styx Reunion Tour with… a harder-rocking “Renegade”? Or “Blue Collar Man”?

No, it’s the Splenda-coated, execrable “Lady”. I didn’t even make it to the first “Layyyy-ayy-deee…” and it’s still stuck in my head. Even the lyrics, and they’re straight out of middle school:  
_“Lady, when you’re with me I’m smiling…”_  
Ooh, that’ll win her heart, Denny…

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I like the Beatles. I’m not sure if I’d call myself a fan, but I like them. My favorite song of theirs is Maxwell’s Silver Hammer if that tells you anything.

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> [@digs](#):
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> No, it’s the Splenda-coated, execrable “Lady”.

It truly is hell.

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/gdnvOQBOjow/hqdefault.jpg "The Simpsons - The River Styx") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdnvOQBOjow)

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**Post date:** [December 14, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-beatles-fans/604334/238 "2021-12-14T01:01:47Z")

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I opened this thread and discourse was clever enough to open it at my own post. Which I had no memory of ever making which threw me a bit.

Then I saw the date.

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The OP is obviously a rabid Archies fanboy who’s still constipated over Get Back [charting higher](https://playback.fm/charts/top-100-songs/1969) than Sugar Sugar in 1969.

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Die Die Die, Die Die Die Die  
Die Die Die, Die Die Die Die  
Die Die Die

The Avett Brothers - _Die Die Die_

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