# I hate BP. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 24, 2011, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949 "2011-11-24T03:20:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Great\_Antibob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/21 "2011-11-24T16:57:00Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Then again, killing the GOM isn’t exacly something that just goes away, or do you think it is? Well, the GoM isn’t dead, so it was never killed in the first place. No, that doesn’t excuse their actions or the vast amount of damage they did. And while the damage may well last centuries, it will eventually go away. After all, there are millions of us who are, even now, eating the products that come out of the Gulf. So, even the “poisoning” is already mostly over and done with. So, yes, it will “just go away” given time. Exaggerating the effect they had on the Gulf doesn’t help the discussion. It only makes you appear to be taking a deliberately provocative, irrational position. ---
**Author:** ![Nancarrow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c37758/32.png) [@Nancarrow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nancarrow)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/22 "2011-11-24T18:26:02Z")
> [@yojimbo](#): > > Maybe? Of course they’re right and this is just an empty useless rant(it’s not even that actually) that brings nothing new to a horse that you’ve beaten to death with similar bollocks. Yeah, I bet you’d like us all to believe that beating a horse to death with your bollocks is such an everyday occurrence for you that you think nothing of using it as metaphor. But I can spot when someone’s just trying to blow their own trumpet. As it were. ---
**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/23 "2011-11-24T18:52:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “And in this slide, we see a pelican raucously enjoying an oil bath, which may have enormous benefits in terms of feather lubricration and parasite suppression. Such benefits were previously unavailable for wild penguins, but, as you can see, they take to the opporunity with great enthusiasm…” [Not to mention the viscosity improvements.](http://www.theonion.com/articles/massive-oil-spill-results-in-improved-wildlife-vis,895/) ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/24 "2011-11-24T19:47:51Z")
Pelicans? Penguins? Too much sex, drugs, and rock n’ roll? Nah, that can’t be it. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9fc348/32.png) [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Flying_Dutchman)\ **Post date:** [November 24, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/25 "2011-11-24T19:49:04Z")
> [@elucidator](#): > > “And in this slide, we see a pelican raucously enjoying an oil bath, which may have enormous benefits in terms of feather lubricration and parasite suppression. Such benefits were previously unavailable for wild penguins, but, as you can see, they take to the opporunity with great enthusiasm…” Pelicans,penguins, what’s the difference ? ETA I had to check through the whole thread to make sure I wasn’t repeating ---
**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\ **Post date:** [November 25, 2011, 11:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/26 "2011-11-25T11:58:27Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > I guess this is my chance to apologize for the anti-Brit threads. I admit to harboring some irrational anti-Brit prejudice, and while plenty of Brits have committed nefarious deeds throughout history, Brits today are liable to be as cool as anybody else. The Brits I know AFAICT don’t even have anything wrong with their teeth. Maybe you can dampen your scorn for BP by ceding some of it to [Chevron](http://www.presstv.ir/detail/211445.html). But then, that’s merely a US oil multi polluting Brazilian waters… ---
**Author:** ![Silophant](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a698b9/32.png) [@Silophant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Silophant)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 1:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/27 "2011-11-26T01:05:19Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Then again, killing the GOM isn’t exacly something that just goes away, or do you think it is? [Apparently.](http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/feb/03/gulf-bp-oil-spill-recover-2012) ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/28 "2011-11-26T01:20:14Z")
I don’t mind BP but then again, I’m not a big pelican fan. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/29 "2011-11-26T17:14:50Z")
> [@EinsteinsHund](#): > > Maybe you can dampen your scorn for BP by ceding some of it to [Chevron](http://www.presstv.ir/detail/211445.html). But then, that’s merely a US oil multi polluting Brazilian waters… Why don’t go start your own thread? I’ll stop by to agree with you, but I have only one organ-playing zombie goat up my sleeve. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 26, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/30 "2011-11-26T17:34:50Z")
> [@Silophant](#): > > [Apparently.](http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/feb/03/gulf-bp-oil-spill-recover-2012) Nice cite: > [@](#): > > Millions of gallons of oil poured into the Gulf between last April and July, damaging the fragile wetlands of Louisiana, washing ashore in Mississippi, Alabama and Florida and hitting coastal industries including fishing and tourism. > > Many angry Gulf coast residents say the compensation fund has short-changed them and favoured BP’s interests over their own. They also argue BP is attempting to wriggle out of its commitment to “make this right” for spill victims. Anyway, [Scientific American](http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=how-long-will-oil-spill-last) disagrees with you pooh-pooers: > [@](#): > > If the [oil] mousse gets into the marshes, it can last a real long time," says environmental chemist Jeffrey Short of environmental group Oceana, who has studied the aftereffects of the Exxon Valdez spill. “Once there’s no oxygen, it doesn’t break down fast at all; it’s a long-term toxic reservoir.” > > There is no cure. “The only way to remove it is mechanically, and that will destroy further the whole habitat,” says marine biologist Héctor Guzmán of the Smithsonian Tropical Research Institute (STRI) in Panama, who is part of a team that conducted a long-term study of the impacts of the Panama oil spill in 1986. And of course, [oil mousse did get into the wetlands](http://www.eli.org/pdf/NA_40-11/40.11090.pdf) (pdf warning). And then there are the million-year-old ecosystems on the sea floor, smothered by oil BP is getting off too easy. They need to get back here and clean up their mess. I don’t know how they’ll do it, but I didn’t know how they’d cap the well at the time either. Not good enough isn’t good enough! ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/31 "2011-11-27T02:40:30Z")
It’s like blaming the drug dealers for your drug addiction. Oil production can be a messy business and shit happens (but then again, I don’t understand why BP as a company with a history of ‘shit happens’ is allowed to operate anymore). ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 4:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/32 "2011-11-27T04:57:13Z")
Just about the stupidest OP I’ve seen in my 10+ years here. What the fuck do you want to say, Asshole? Spit that cock out and just shout! ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/33 "2011-11-27T15:25:24Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Just about the stupidest OP I’ve seen in my 10+ years here. > > What the fuck do you want to say, Asshole? Spit that cock out and just shout! No one has criticized my first post for lacking clarity or brevity. Why don’t you answer the question and then read the rest of the thread, asshole? ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/34 "2011-11-27T15:29:28Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I hate trolls. Don’t you? I’m no troll, silly. Look at the ignorance on display in this thread. People seem to think that because shrimp are coming out of the Gulf, then everything is hunky-dory! That since the Guardian says the oil will have dissipated by a year from now (not true), we might as well act as if it is all gone now and just forget the whole thing. One of the worst ecological disasters in history, and never-you-mind? No way. Call my posting excessive on the topic if you like, but shutting up about it isn’t going to inform anybody. ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/35 "2011-11-27T15:30:30Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#): > > Well, the GoM isn’t dead, so it was never killed in the first place. Pedantry! ---
**Author:** ![Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/try2b_comprehensive/32/65_2.png) [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Try2B_Comprehensive)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2011, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/36 "2011-11-27T15:48:29Z")
> [@The\_Flying\_Dutchman](#): > > Pelicans,penguins, what’s the difference ? Penguins were better dressed for the occasion? Comprising less than 1% of the bird population, they can never expect to attract the widespread sympathy enjoyed by more common birds? Sounds like a reference to the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill. Because I’m not equally up in arms about Alaska then my compaints about BP aren’t valid, is that it? That’s wrong, allow me to explain. As I understand it, the Exxon Valdez spill was almost or entirely the fault of a single drunken sailor. One guy steering a ship ran the thing aground and caused a horrible disaster (whose effects are still with us). BP touches my ‘this is downright evil’ nerve because the fault seems to lie with the entire system from the top down. They went so far as to manipulate the regulators with bribes to get them off their backs and avoid scrutiny. BP perpetrated the massive lie of “You can trust us, we’re the experts!” when they were excused from regulatory attention, and instead of acting responsibly they took the opportunity to cut corners in all kinds of dangerous ways, just like every corporation who funds every single GOP candidate who carps about regulations- they’ll fuck the public and the world right in the ass if it means higher profits, guaranteed. The spill was not the result of a single yahoo. From knowledge of malfunctioning equipment to doing an entirely half-assed, incomplete job in the first place to ignoring weird readings that would have tipped off a qualified operator that the drilling needed to stop, the entire organization clearly displayed a “we just don’t give a fuck” attitude. And now they are welching out of their responsibilities to their victims and seeking to squirm off the hook, assisted with moral support from ignorant people who act as if it is all over, it doesn’t matter, or everything is back to the way it was. And all this comes after BP was clearly warned for their [Texas City Refinery disaster](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas_City_Refinery_explosion). My feelings could hardly be more clear. I continue to condemn BP and call for their banning from US soil. Nobody has ever provided any sufficient reason why I should change my mind. What about you? You’ve stopped by the thread, won’t you answer my little question? ---
**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 7:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/37 "2011-11-28T07:11:50Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > Sounds like a reference to the 1989 Exxon Valdez oil spill. Because I’m not equally up in arms about Alaska then my compaints about BP aren’t valid, is that it? That’s wrong, allow me to explain. > > As I understand it, the Exxon Valdez spill was almost or entirely the fault of a single drunken sailor. One guy steering a ship ran the thing aground and caused a horrible disaster (whose effects are still with us). You understand little. Go read [the wikipedia entry](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exxon_Valdez_oil_spill)for a basic primer. You have no idea what you are talking about. Your grip on the facts Deepwater Horizon incident is probably similar. ---
**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/38 "2011-11-28T18:13:14Z")
> [@Try2B\_Comprehensive](#): > > I’m not going to actually _do_ anything besides seethe and rant. But this is crazy. Assuming BP can’t be eliminated, how do I get over it? Professional therapy? ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/39 "2011-11-28T18:30:17Z")
Do you think BP is worse than any other oil company (or non-oil company)? I see them all as about the same, and BP just is the most recent one to have a fuck up. Could have just as easily been Shell or Exxon/Mobile. It’s a dirty business, and no one is paying too much attention until something like this comes to light. ---
**Author:** ![Uzi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/91b2a8/32.png) [@Uzi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uzi)\ **Post date:** [November 28, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949/40 "2011-11-28T19:34:45Z")
It is nice that you have your personal opinion when facts are only seconds away. BP is one of the main reasons that the oil industry has a bad reputation. Its record is significantly worse than most, if not all, other companies. It should have its license to operate as a company revoked. > **[BP's Dismal Safety Record](https://abcnews.go.com/WN/bps-dismal-safety-record/story?id=10763042#.TtPhU7L3EVU)** > > Records show BP has one of the worst U.S. safety records of any oil company. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-bp/603949.md?page=3)