# I hate Conservatives.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059 "2010-10-04T23:06:01Z")\
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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/1 "2010-10-04T23:06:01Z")

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They can’t argue worth crap, they’re always evasive, they distort things and they don’t give a rip about America’s working class.

They yap endlessly about patriotism but when the chips come down they slam patriotism as “protectionism”. It’s because of these guys that we have American flags made in China.

Conservatives are like watching a really bad cartoon. A groaner per second is a good day for these guys. They don’t think anything exists outside of laissez-faire capitalism and a good bombing of some swarthy people. Or whoever is the new black.

Arguing with them is pointless. I sincerely wish we could ship them off to another world and let them live by their ideals so everyone else can actually enjoy progress. But then we’d wind up sending them aid when all hell breaks loose.

ARGH…

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/2 "2010-10-04T23:07:38Z")

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I gathered that from your threads.

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**Author:** ![The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bith_Shuffle)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/3 "2010-10-04T23:30:08Z")

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Edit: nah, not going to imply that this thread should continue.

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**Author:** ![gravitycrash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/977dab/32.png) [@gravitycrash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gravitycrash)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/4 "2010-10-04T23:35:27Z")

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> [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](#):
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> Edit: nah, not going to imply that this thread should continue.

You should have kept it Bith. I liked it and it probably would make Frenchie’s head explode.

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**Author:** ![The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bith_Shuffle)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/5 "2010-10-04T23:42:49Z")

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> [@gravitycrash](#):
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> > [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](#):
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> > Edit: nah, not going to imply that this thread should continue.
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> You should have kept it Bith. I liked it and it probably would make Frenchie’s head explode.

Sorry mate. This thread may well evolve into some pointless 17-page argument, but it sure as hell won’t be my fault!

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/6 "2010-10-04T23:46:47Z")

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I’m relatively conservative on some issues but full of disdain for the current configuration of the Republican Party, for sure. What do you want to ask? Ticking the “hot button” issues off, I am pro-gun, pro-abortion, pro-marijuana legalisation, pro-strong military and anti-terrorism efforts, anti-religion in government…

Aw fuck, I’ll just stop feeding the t\_o\_l.

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**Author:** ![suranyi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@suranyi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/suranyi)\
**Post date:** [October 4, 2010, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/7 "2010-10-04T23:59:11Z")

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I hate conservatives also.

However, if you think that the division between people who agree with your arguments in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580533) thread is that those who agree are liberals and those who disagree are conservatives, you’re very much mistaken.

Liberals are not necessarily isolationists.

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/8 "2010-10-05T00:03:12Z")

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I hate stereotype conservatives, but make certain specific exceptions. Like, I can’t help feel some small nugget of clemency towards my parents, or the woman I love. Damn but they’re idiots sometimes though.

The real piss in my soda is that it seems that the politics are becoming dominated by the stereotypes.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/9 "2010-10-05T00:05:21Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> I hate conservatives also.
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> However, if you think that the division between people who agree with your arguments in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580533) thread is that those who agree are liberals and those who disagree are conservatives, you’re very much mistaken.
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> Liberals are not necessarily isolationists.

My position isn’t isolationist. It’s anti-trade with low wage nations. How many times do I keep having to repeat that I support lowering trade barriers with nations like Canada and regions like Europe before this “isolationist” garbage gets dropped?

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/10 "2010-10-05T00:08:10Z")

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I don’t hate conservatives. I do hate partisan retards who fan the flames of Us vs. Them which has replaced debate in U.S. politics. I hate them doubly so when they’re on the same side of the political spectrum as me, because they become the Them into which I am lumped and since they’re assholes, that sucks for me.

So, yeah. This thread sucks for me. ☹

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/11 "2010-10-05T00:10:52Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> They can’t argue worth crap, they’re always evasive, they distort things and they don’t give a rip about America’s working class.
> 
> They yap endlessly about patriotism but when the chips come down they slam patriotism as “protectionism”. It’s because of these guys that we have American flags made in China.
> 
> Conservatives are like watching a really bad cartoon. A groaner per second is a good day for these guys. They don’t think anything exists outside of laissez-faire capitalism and a good bombing of some swarthy people. Or whoever is the new black.
> 
> Arguing with them is pointless. I sincerely wish we could ship them off to another world and let them live by their ideals so everyone else can actually enjoy progress. But then we’d wind up sending them aid when all hell breaks loose.
> 
> ARGH…

Well, they probably hate you, too. So that works out nicely.

What I tend to dislike is a bunch of platitudes and stereotypes strung together and offered as something thoughtful.

Can’t muster up much more than that for such weakness.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/12 "2010-10-05T00:13:40Z")

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> [@Giraffe](#):
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> I don’t hate conservatives. I do hate partisan retards who fan the flames of Us vs. Them which has replaced debate in U.S. politics. I hate them doubly so when they’re on the same side of the political spectrum as me, because they become the Them into which I am lumped and since they’re assholes, that sucks for me.
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> So, yeah. This thread sucks for me. ☹

So what are we supposed to do? Just sing kumbayaa with people who are screwing up our world?

It is us vs them. We cannot cooperate. Look what the Conservatives did to Obama. We can’t even get a Public Option to help people get better access to health care because of Conservatives.

You want to work with them, they want to “Reload”. You talk reconciliation, they talk about watering the tree with our blood. WTF…

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/13 "2010-10-05T00:27:30Z")

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With histrionics like this how can anybody help but be on board with your views? It’s clear that you’re right about everything, your passion confirms the righteousness of your cause.

The thread is over in one. Let’s all go with what is right and wrap this puppy up.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/14 "2010-10-05T00:35:10Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> With histrionics like this how can anybody help but be on board with your views? It’s clear that you’re right about everything, your passion confirms the righteousness of your cause.
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> The thread is over in one. Let’s all go with what is right and wrap this puppy up.

You get me wrong here. What I want to see is them live out their dreams of right-wing righteousness.

I just prefer that they not do it on a planet where humans might be affected by their mistakes.

If they’re right their world will prosper. If not… I guess we’ll be sending them aid and bailouts.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/15 "2010-10-05T00:43:17Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> > With histrionics like this how can anybody help but be on board with your views? It’s clear that you’re right about everything, your passion confirms the righteousness of your cause.
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> > The thread is over in one. Let’s all go with what is right and wrap this puppy up.
> 
> You get me wrong here. What I want to see is them live out their dreams of right-wing righteousness.
> 
> I just prefer that they not do it on a planet where humans might be affected by their mistakes.

You’d prefer to live in a world where people will be affected by “liberal” mistakes. Because, as we all know, they don’t make mistakes. Ever.

Let’s all join hands now and sing around the campfire. All together now! Let us sing of the end of right-wing righteousness. No, no smugness or self-righteousness allowed, we’re better than they are! It’s all flowers and candy from here on out!

> [@](#):
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> If they’re right their world will prosper. If not… I guess we’ll be sending them aid and bailouts.

Has it not occurred to you that this country was built on the back of the very things you’re condemning? And you seriously anticipate having to “bail them out”? Surely you jest.

But please, feel free to continue. I like seeing threads like this on occasion, they’re always good for a laugh or two.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/16 "2010-10-05T00:50:32Z")

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This board is mostly liberal, but there are some conservatives. I suggest the OP not waste his time arguing with conservatives on this message board and spend his time on boards which only cater to liberals. I wonder how welcome he would be on such a message board?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/17 "2010-10-05T01:01:08Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > You get me wrong here. What I want to see is them live out their dreams of right-wing righteousness.
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> > I just prefer that they not do it on a planet where humans might be affected by their mistakes.
> 
> You’d prefer to live in a world where people will be affected by “liberal” mistakes. Because, as we all know, they don’t make mistakes. Ever.

Liberals ain’t perfect but their mistakes don’t usually drive a nation into depression, poison our water and air or result in people being mass genocided and put in slavery.

> [@](#):
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> Let’s all join hands now and sing around the campfire. All together now! Let us sing of the end of right-wing righteousness. No, no smugness or self-righteousness allowed, we’re better than they are! It’s all flowers and candy from here on out!

Whatever dude. At least we won’t be choking on air pollution or bombing people’s weddings. And Abu Ghraib will be right out.

> [@](#):
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> > [@](#):
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> > If they’re right their world will prosper. If not… I guess we’ll be sending them aid and bailouts.
> 
> Has it not occurred to you that this country was built on the back of the very things you’re condemning?

You mean back when our founding fathers only wanted the landed gentry to be able to vote? Or all the work done by black slaves? Or the slaughter of the Native Americans? The country was built on the back of a lot of things - a lot of stuff we’ve abolished _due to liberalism_.

> [@](#):
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> And you seriously anticipate having to “bail them out”? Surely you jest.

It sure beats burning their cities down like liberals had to do to Atlanta. Liberals haven’t always been “nice”. At one time long ago liberals had _balls._ We stomped our way into enemy territory and put an end to slavery when we had to.

Oh and before you say it was Democrats who defended slavery and Republicans who set them free… I’ll remind you that back then, Democrats were Conservatives. They switched souls in 1964.

As for bailing them out… the Blue liberal states already bail out the red Conservative states. Right at this moment.  
So you know what. You’re right. I repent. How about this. We cut off all welfare aid to the Red States and let them sink or swim. How about that?

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/18 "2010-10-05T01:12:28Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> It sure beats burning their cities down like liberals had to do to Atlanta. Liberals haven’t always been “nice”. At one time long ago liberals had _balls._ We stomped our way into enemy territory and put an end to slavery when we had to.
> 
> Oh and before you say it was Democrats who defended slavery and Republicans who set them free… I’ll remind you that back then, Democrats were Conservatives. They switched souls in 1964.

I think it’s a mistake to try to make comparisons like that. I don’t think you can really make modern comparisons to the parties in the 1860s. Neither of the sides in the Civil War were made up of modern liberals or modern conservatives; the beliefs, values, attitudes, and issues were just different.

Stephen Douglas never made any statements about TARP, gay marriage, or funding alternative energy sources, and in the 2008 election, neither of the candidates expressed an opinion on bimetallism or the expansion of slavery into the territories.

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**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/19 "2010-10-05T01:19:22Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> So what are we supposed to do? Just sing kumbayaa with people who are screwing up our world?
> 
> It is us vs them. We cannot cooperate. Look what the Conservatives did to Obama. We can’t even get a Public Option to help people get better access to health care because of Conservatives.
> 
> You want to work with them, they want to “Reload”. You talk reconciliation, they talk about watering the tree with our blood. WTF…

You can stop playing the partisan game and be a voice that people might actually want to listen to. Countering fear-mongering and vilification with fear-mongering and vilification does nothing but validate those you seek to weaken and perpetuate a cycle that whereby intelligent decision-making has to play second fiddle to braindead soundbyte-warfare and partisan gamesmanship.

Stop being a counter-productive fucktard. If you want to fight conservatives, graduate to useless fucktard and go watch TV or something.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/20 "2010-10-05T01:24:58Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> > With histrionics like this how can anybody help but be on board with your views? It’s clear that you’re right about everything, your passion confirms the righteousness of your cause.
> > 
> > The thread is over in one. Let’s all go with what is right and wrap this puppy up.
> 
> You get me wrong here. What I want to see is them live out their dreams of right-wing righteousness.
> 
> I just prefer that they not do it on a planet where humans might be affected by their mistakes.
> 
> If they’re right their world will prosper. If not… I guess we’ll be sending them aid and bailouts.

You say he got you wrong. But he didn’t. And your response here just confirms that.

Akin to what you wish for conservatives, I wish you wake up ten times smarter to morrow and are able to see how incredibly lame your [cough] “position” is. But you know, what the heck. Keep digging.

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