# I hate Conservatives.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059 "2010-10-04T23:06:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 12, 2010, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/201 "2010-10-12T21:16:13Z")

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Give him some credit - he is only typing with one hand.

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 13, 2010, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/202 "2010-10-13T02:55:36Z")

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> [@Darth\_Hamsandwich](#):
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> **Le Jacquelope** , not for nothing, but you sound as militant as those “gun toting hicks” you referred to before.
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> > We let some uneducated gun toting hicks come out and intimidate us away from a Public Option

I just told you I see nothing wrong with being what _you_ define as militant.

What you define as militant, I call having the courage to fight for what you believe in and not let yourself get steamrolled.

Europeans are militant. They fight hard for what they believe in and they reap good rewards from that.

The price of freedom is eternal vigilance, and all that.  
And… Duke of Crap… that’s a one-time historical blip. Talk about being full of shit and all that: your eyes are turning brown. Nice cherry-picking job you did there.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 2:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/203 "2010-10-14T02:49:53Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> And… Duke of Crap… that’s a one-time historical blip. Talk about being full of shit and all that: your eyes are turning brown. Nice cherry-picking job you did there.

My eyes might be brown, but your head is so far up your ass you can’t read.

From the same source:

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> Schwarzenegger is asking Washington to reimburse Medicaid expenses at the national average of 57 cents on the dollar, up from 50 cents (worth $1.8 billion). **He is also pleading to make permanent certain federal stimulus outlays set to run out at year’s end ($2.1 billion).**

One time blip? That’s why California needs to make the $2.1 billion permanent instead of a one time blip type deal?

Oh, wait. That’s not the reason. This is the reason.

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> The Golden State is racked with 12.3 percent unemployment and a budget shortfall of $20 billion, and Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger (R) warned Friday of even deeper cuts to programs without $6.9 billion in new federal funds. In unveiling an austere budget proposal, he went a giant step further with the age-old state gripe about unequal distribution of federal dollars – actually writing the federal funds in as a budget stopgap.

So it seems your paragon of fiscal responsibility donor blue state might be in a bit more than a one time blip pickle.

Let’s pick some more cherries, shall we?

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> Nearly $3 billion more would come from correcting “unfair federal mandates” that oblige the state to cover costs in health care, foster care, special education and, not least, the imprisonment of illegal immigrants. California receives $96 million from the federal government to cover the $973 million it costs to incarcerate illegal immigrants convicted of felonies, who account for about one in 10 prisoners in the state.
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> “So we’re not even getting 10 cents on the dollar,” said H.D. Palmer, deputy director of the state’s Finance Department. “We’re not pulling numbers out of the air. There is a solid analytical basis for every item in our federal request.”

Not pulling numbers out of the air? Solid analytical basis? Doesn’t sound like a one time blip. Sounds like a state in a world of hurt.

But it’s only a one time blip. Well, except that they knew they were in a bind last year, as well (after your cherry picked 2005 data, published in 2007, came out).

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> The new pitch to Washington differs significantly from last year’s appeal for the federal government to provide loan guarantees in hopes of sparing the state several hundred million dollars it had to pay private bankers. White House officials declined to express a position on California’s most recent efforts to seek federal assistance. In the summer, senior administration officials declined a similar plea for federal aid from California, though they said at the time that they remained open to stepping in if the situation dramatically worsened. But even in that case, any federal bailout would carry conditions to protect taxpayers and make similar requests for aid unattractive to other states.

So, in closing, fuck off.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/204 "2010-10-14T13:58:38Z")

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> [@Duke of Crap](#):
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> > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > And… Duke of Crap… that’s a one-time historical blip. Talk about being full of shit and all that: your eyes are turning brown. Nice cherry-picking job you did there.
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> My eyes might be brown, but your head is so far up your ass you can’t read.

And if your head goes any further up your ass we’ll be calling you Cheshire Cat.

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> One time blip? That’s why California needs to make the $2.1 billion permanent instead of a one time blip type deal?

They probably won’t even get it.

And from your cite we’re also outlaying $971 million and getting $96 million to pay for it? Doesn’t sound like we’re actually getting those welfare dollars.

California’s begging but not getting. I’ll leave you and your tiny brain to explode trying to figure that out, but in closing, you’re nothing more than a loud mouthed child and as I said before I will not waste time on the likes of you. Iggy time. Now you can brag to your friends about how bad ass you feel you are.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/205 "2010-10-14T20:07:30Z")

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> [@Duke\_of\_Rat](#):
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> So, in closing, fuck off.

**Duke** , please remember the restrictions on language in the Pit as outlined [here.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=508858)

No warning issued.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [October 14, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/206 "2010-10-14T20:08:27Z")

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Also, **Le Jacquelope** , please do not alter text inside of a quote box, including the quoted poster’s name.

Still no warning issued.

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**Author:** ![Duke\_of\_Rat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Duke\_of\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duke_of_Rat)\
**Post date:** [October 15, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/207 "2010-10-15T02:07:03Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > [@Duke of Crap](#):
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> > My eyes might be brown, but your head is so far up your ass you can’t read.
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> And if your head goes any further up your ass we’ll be calling you Cheshire Cat.
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> > One time blip? That’s why California needs to make the $2.1 billion permanent instead of a one time blip type deal?
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> They probably won’t even get it.
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> And from your cite we’re also outlaying $971 million and getting $96 million to pay for it? Doesn’t sound like we’re actually getting those welfare dollars.
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> California’s begging but not getting. I’ll leave you and your tiny brain to explode trying to figure that out, but in closing, you’re nothing more than a loud mouthed child and as I said before I will not waste time on the likes of you. Iggy time. Now you can brag to your friends about how bad ass you feel you are.

I’m not picking on California, I’m sure other states are having budget problems as well.

My gripe is when some idiot (well, you) foists California off with “Care to say that again” confidence that it’s still a net contributor and use outdated data to support their idiocy.

You are wrong, and an idiot.

And apologies to the board and **Miller**

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 7:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/208 "2010-10-23T07:31:28Z")

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Forget hate, how about [liberals taking action](http://www.canada.com/news/France+buys+electricity+nuclear+plants+strike/3704524/story.html) to actively FIGHT the right?

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**Author:** ![pikey\_pete](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pikey\_pete](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pikey_pete)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/209 "2010-10-23T18:02:56Z")

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I love conservatives. No matter how bad I fuck up, or behave stupidly, or do something completely moronic, the conservatives are always there for me to look at, and realize that 'hey, at least I’m not that stupid."

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/210 "2010-10-23T19:34:43Z")

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[QUOTE=Le Jacquelope]  
Forget hate, how about liberals taking action to actively FIGHT the right?  
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Oh, I’m sure the good liberals of France are putting up the good fight. To be sure. Let us know how that works out for them, ehe? 😛

-XT

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/211 "2010-10-23T19:52:26Z")

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Uh-oh. He’s doing it again.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/212 "2010-10-23T19:53:47Z")

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That ‘ehe’ was a special occasion. I’m really trying to cut back, but an occasional fall off the wagon is to be expected…

-XT

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [October 23, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/213 "2010-10-23T23:56:10Z")

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You starved for attention, Jacquelope, you trolling piece of shit? Is that why you bumped this up?

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/214 "2010-10-24T06:15:50Z")

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Has it occurred to you, **Le Jacquelope** , that violence is the **last** solution to whatever problems we have here in the United States? Really, is France’s current riots/strikes something you want to emulate? I thought it was a “liberal” principle that violence never solved anything.

But hey, what’s an omelet without breaking a few eggs. Right?

What’s ironic is that some Frenchman is going to get killed for something that he cannot stop. It’s all but guaranteed. Yet here you are advocating that which will lead to more deaths, and for what? You think the US Democratic Party will back you? You have blinders on. And given your beliefs as espoused in this thread, that is your only hope.

Violence. Great plan. Lead on, brother. I’ll be right behind you. About 500 yards behind, at best.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/215 "2010-10-24T11:00:10Z")

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I wonder if \*\*LeJaque \*\*has met \*\*Morella \*\*yet. We’ve got to get these crazy kids together.

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/216 "2010-10-24T11:25:59Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> Forget hate, how about [liberals taking action](http://www.canada.com/news/France+buys+electricity+nuclear+plants+strike/3704524/story.html) to actively FIGHT the right?

There ya go. If you’re pissed off because you have to wait until you’re old to retire, just go on strike and deny yourself electricity. That’ll show 'em.

Everything that you need to know about politics can be learned from a park ranger. DON’T FEED THE BEARS.

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 11:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/217 "2010-10-24T11:28:24Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Has it occurred to you, **Le Jacquelope** , that violence is the **last** solution to whatever problems we have here in the United States?

Besides…we conservatives have all of the weapons, right? We’re bound to come out on top if violence erupts.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/218 "2010-10-24T12:12:24Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> You starved for attention, Jacquelope, you trolling piece of shit? Is that why you bumped this up?

Idle thoughts? Well, the first part of your nickname is correct, shit for brains.

> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Has it occurred to you, **Le Jacquelope** , that violence is the **last** solution to whatever problems we have here in the United States? Really, is France’s current riots/strikes something you want to emulate? I thought it was a “liberal” principle that violence never solved anything.

Excuse me?

You have Tea Partiers bringing guns to townhall meetings and militias engaging in shooting practice not 10 miles from where I live, not to mention other parts of the country. You have people talking in secret about killing the President and starting a rebellion. Please, I dare you, tell me that the Hutarees situation was fake.

Get to know your history air force guy. Liberals rioted to stop the draft. They rioted to stop the Vietnam war. They went even further than I ever would and spat on soldiers returning from the war. That’s here in the U.S. Even further back, people fighting for a liberal cause (back then we called 'em Republicans) stomped Atlanta into the ground to put an end to the Confederacy.

Before you go on about Liberals, learn your history. Liberals - particularly leftists - can be some mean muthas.

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> But hey, what’s an omelet without breaking a few eggs. Right?

And what do you call the recent skyrocketing prices of ammunition? A lot of eggs are going to get broken by the Right. Ask the Hutarees.

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> What’s ironic is that some Frenchman is going to get killed for something that he cannot stop.

WTF… seriously, learn your history. Two words for you: French Revolution. One more word: guillotine. Look them up. The French are known for this shit.

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> It’s all but guaranteed. Yet here you are advocating that which will lead to more deaths, and for what? You think the US Democratic Party will back you? You have blinders on. And given your beliefs as espoused in this thread, that is your only hope.

Oh I know the Democrats and liberals in America are weak. I’m not blind to that. We’ll get totally blindsided by the right wing militias.

But wait. That’s not the only bad thing that can happen because of cowards like you. We can simply lose the country by getting bullied into submission by gun toting madmen making fun of Parkinson’s sufferers and people telling stories about their kids dying for lack of health care.

What you fail to realize is that liberals here are far from what they are elsewhere. Liberals elsewhere tend to keep the right wing at bay better than we do in America. Ever wonder why? Read carefully, although I know your brain probably will not grasp this: because whether liberals protest or launch raucous riots, they have a fucking spine.

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> Violence. Great plan. Lead on, brother. I’ll be right behind you. About 500 yards behind, at best.

500 yards? More than likely you’ll be sitting at home while the Tea Party is out there bullying America into submission. Or probably sucking their dicks like some boot licking cur.

Oh and Morella: yeah, remember Atlanta? I bet the South said they’d come out on top, too. You see, if violence breaks out and you guys get close to winning, you’ll be blockaded by the entire world. We’ll STARVE you out.

You guys started this shit with your militia fucktards and Tea Partiers brandishing firearms and talking about “watering the tree of liberty” and all that bullshit. Now that you actually are faced with someone that has a spine you want to get all pissed? Fuck you and the horse you rode in on.

Oh and… the retirement age thing is FAR from the only issue they’re rioting about.

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/219 "2010-10-24T13:47:02Z")

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There isn’t anything wrong with France that Jean-Marie Le Pen couldn’t fix.

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**Author:** ![Morella](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Morella](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morella)\
**Post date:** [October 24, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/220 "2010-10-24T13:56:17Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> You have Tea Partiers bringing guns to townhall meetings

Remember the CNN coverage when they showed a closeup of a tea partier holding a rifle? What is funny is that they kept the camera zoomed in enough so that no one could see that the man was black.

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> and militias engaging in shooting practice not 10 miles from where I live, not to mention other parts of the country.

What is wrong with that? Doesn’t the 2nd amendment say that a militia is necessary?

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> You have people talking in secret about killing the President and starting a rebellion.

Which is, what, something new?

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> Please, I dare you, tell me that the Hutarees situation was fake.

Yeah, and don’t forget that George Bush is a cyclon!

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> Get to know your history air force guy. Liberals rioted to stop the draft. They rioted to stop the Vietnam war. They went even further than I ever would and spat on soldiers returning from the war.

How brave of them! And shame on those soldiers for starting a war.

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> And what do you call the recent skyrocketing prices of ammunition?

I call it a good reason to own a Kalashnikov.

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> Oh and Morella: yeah, remember Atlanta? I bet the South said they’d come out on top, too.

You’re asking me if I remember the Civil War? No, I’m old, but I’m not that old. I do remember the dawn of the Golden Age of Government Control, though.

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> You see, if violence breaks out and you guys get close to winning, you’ll be blockaded by the entire world. We’ll STARVE you out.

That’s hilarious…is if the rest of the world has anything that the US can’t do without.

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