# I hate Conservatives. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059 "2010-10-04T23:06:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/81 "2010-10-05T13:18:29Z")
I think we’re being too hard on the OP. Puberty, afterall, is a very difficult time. The pimples will go away eventually, **Jack**. And once the braces come off, you can smile all you want! ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/82 "2010-10-05T13:24:30Z")
I hate conservatives too. Conserve electricity Conserve the environment. Conserve that girl’s virginity. Man, will you just shut up with your constant preaching and let me get on with the raping and pillaging already? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/83 "2010-10-05T13:32:41Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > I think we’re being too hard on the OP. Puberty, afterall, is a very difficult time. The pimples will go away eventually, **Jack**. And once the braces come off, you can smile all you want! Thank God you managed to prevent puberty from even happening to you. Who knows how badly you’d melt down if Peter Pan hadn’t come to your rescue. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/84 "2010-10-05T13:34:02Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > …couldn’t man-up … > > … Wasn’t man enough… Interesting phrasing. Methinks you’ve got issues that have nothing to do with politics. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/85 "2010-10-05T13:39:42Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > > …couldn’t man-up … > > > > … Wasn’t man enough… > > Interesting phrasing. Methinks you’ve got issues that have nothing to do with politics. It’s called realizing that you don’t need any sort of arguments, you need a baby sitter. And no, I didn’t expect you to actually address the examples I posted of SDers flailing around and making idiotic arguments they refused to own up to when they got busted with the facts. This is the BBQ pit after all, and your responses are pretty much totally predictable. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/86 "2010-10-05T14:13:42Z")
Newbie comes in, fists a-flailing. Thinks he’s got all the answers, and is going to educumate us poor, uninformed souls. Flames out in the Pit, mostly spurned by people on his own side. News at 11. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/87 "2010-10-05T14:15:56Z")
I’m quite enjoying The Jackalope so far. He’s holding his own. A little over the top, sure, but he’s fighting fire with fire. Even if he hates Conservatives, he’s utilizing their techniques quite well. He’s right about one thing … liberals in congress need to grow some balls. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/88 "2010-10-05T14:31:22Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I’m quite enjoying The Jackalope so far. He’s holding his own. So am I, but if he doesn’t let go of his own soon, he is going to get calluses on it. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/89 "2010-10-05T14:44:03Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Newbie comes in, fists a-flailing. Thinks he’s got all the answers, and is going to educumate us poor, uninformed souls. Flames out in the Pit, mostly spurned by people on his own side. > > News at 11. Needs much more “I’m more intelligent than any of you!” to really complete the effect, though. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/90 "2010-10-05T14:46:01Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > > [@John\_Mace](#): > > > > Newbie comes in, fists a-flailing. Thinks he’s got all the answers, and is going to educumate us poor, uninformed souls. Flames out in the Pit, mostly spurned by people on his own side. > > > > News at 11. > > Needs much more “I’m more intelligent than any of you!” to really complete the effect, though. [Give it time.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580749) Part 1 of 3 OPs can’t be far away. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/91 "2010-10-05T14:51:20Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > We now go over to RickJay’s “1. You’ve stated the USA consumes more food than it produces, which is false.” - attacking me based on a statement that I never made. Wasn’t man enough to admit he was wrong there. Or his other laughable statement “I certainly am denying that Henry Ford raised wages so his employees could afford them, yes.” Even though every source that goes in-depth about his life cites this as _one of his motivations_ for raising his workers’ wages, here comes RickJay the one guy in the world who wants to deny history. “There was…no charity involved… We wanted to pay these wages so that business would be on a lasting foundation. We were building for the future. A low wage business is always insecure. The payment of $5 a day for an eight-hour day was one of the finest cost-cutting moves we ever made.” - Henry Ford ---
**Author:** ![Baboonanza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f475e1/32.png) [@Baboonanza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baboonanza)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/92 "2010-10-05T14:56:20Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > Who’s this “everybody”, Baboon? I posted citations to support a ton of things and one by one you refused to address them directly. I don’t recall you posting any cites in ‘debate’ with me, though I acknowledge that you have attempted to do so with others. Some of your claims, such as Chinese factory workers being able to afford the products they make are simply factually incorrect, so I don’t expect you to be able to provide a cite for them. > [@](#): > > Speaking of infantile posturing? You guys were accusing me of things like wanting to isolate the United States, a position which would certainly qualify as infantile posturing, except that _I proposed no such thing_. When called out on that, you guys ran off like cockroaches exposed to the light. But what are proposing IS isolationism, whether you call it that or not. For instance, if you only add tariffs to goods imported from low-wage countries, what’s to stop UK or Canadian companies just importing from China, doing the minimum amount of ‘assembly’ to qualify it as made in the UK and them exporting to the US? Nothing, partial tariffs make no sense. The problem with this whole debate isn’t that everyone disagrees with you about off-shoring/out-sourcing being a problem, it’s that your solution is FUCKING STUPID. > [@](#): > > Now I’ve shown you a specific example of what makes you a bunch of infantile losers who have to distort posts to bolster your points. Your turn. Oh wait, don’t even bother. You’re not even man enough. See ‘infantile posturing’. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/93 "2010-10-05T15:36:07Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I’m quite enjoying The Jackalope so far. He’s holding his own. A little over the top, sure, but he’s fighting fire with fire. Even if he hates Conservatives, he’s utilizing their techniques quite well. > > He’s right about one thing … liberals in congress need to grow some balls. I admit I made a big mistake of overestimating these guys and worse yet, taking them seriously. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/94 "2010-10-05T15:48:27Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > Liberals ain’t perfect but their mistakes don’t usually drive a nation into depression, poison our water and air or result in people being mass genocided and put in slavery. Apparently you’re unfamiliar with the bastions of liberalism that are Chicago and DC. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/95 "2010-10-05T15:52:33Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > > Liberals ain’t perfect but their mistakes don’t usually drive a nation into depression, poison our water and air or result in people being mass genocided and put in slavery. > > Apparently you’re unfamiliar with the bastions of liberalism that are Chicago and DC. That’s 2 cities, not an entire nation. Excessive Liberalism can get to be as bad as excessive Conservatism. Woah. Did I say that? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/96 "2010-10-05T15:59:59Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > > Liberals ain’t perfect but their mistakes don’t usually drive a nation into depression, poison our water and air or result in people being mass genocided and put in slavery. > > Apparently you’re unfamiliar with the bastions of liberalism that are Chicago and DC. There are slaves in Chicago and mass genocide in DC? That darned liberal media has misled me again! ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/97 "2010-10-05T16:10:52Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > There are slaves in Chicago and mass genocide in DC? That darned liberal media has misled me again! Other way around. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/98 "2010-10-05T16:15:20Z")
> [@Club\_33](#): > > As far as the “rational discussion” proponents in this thread, the ones supposedly “on my side” - that goal, no matter how noble it may be, is getting us nowhere. It stopped being effective once the Karl Rove mentality became commonplace in the Republican Party. They have zero respect for you, they will never work with you, and they will do anything in their power to ensure that you never even get so much as a compromise. See, I think you’re mixing up how I’d like to see Democrats act (i.e. maybe a tiny bit less like humongous pussies) and how I’d like to see liberal citizens act. I don’t expect Democrats to win political battles through reasonable dialogue alone. But the tactics that are unfortunately necessary to be successful in politics serve only to make one an obnoxious dick in regular society. You may never convince a die-hard conservative of anything through reasonable factual discourse. But if one of you is yelling insults and being an ass and the other is explaining their position in clear, intelligent language, one of you is going to be a lot more successful in swaying observers to the discussion. Hint: it’s not usually the one who is acting like a huge douche. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/99 "2010-10-05T16:15:28Z")
**Le Jacquelope** I feel much better now that you’ve outed me as a secret conservative. Whew! Now I can really fit in around here! \ ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/100 "2010-10-05T16:30:14Z")
Ew - liberal cooties. Regards, Shodan [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059.md?page=6)