# I hate Conservatives. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 4, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059 "2010-10-04T23:06:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/101 "2010-10-05T17:02:23Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > > [@Club\_33](#): > > > > As far as the “rational discussion” proponents in this thread, the ones supposedly “on my side” - that goal, no matter how noble it may be, is getting us nowhere. It stopped being effective once the Karl Rove mentality became commonplace in the Republican Party. They have zero respect for you, they will never work with you, and they will do anything in their power to ensure that you never even get so much as a compromise. > > See, I think you’re mixing up how I’d like to see Democrats act (i.e. maybe a tiny bit less like humongous pussies) and how I’d like to see liberal citizens act. I don’t expect Democrats to win political battles through reasonable dialogue alone. But the tactics that are unfortunately necessary to be successful in politics serve only to make one an obnoxious dick in regular society. > > You may never convince a die-hard conservative of anything through reasonable factual discourse. But if one of you is yelling insults and being an ass and the other is explaining their position in clear, intelligent language, one of you is going to be a lot more successful in swaying observers to the discussion. Hint: it’s not usually the one who is acting like a huge douche. Okay who was explaining their position in clear, intelligent language? Sure as fuck not the guys trash talking at me. They got their panties in a bunch off the bat and found out in a hurry that _I don’t get bullied._ After that they pretty much pummeled themselves to a pulp and then got mad at me for laughing at them. My problem was assuming they were going to react rationally and address points directly. I know now to treat some people like children and not give them the time of day. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/102 "2010-10-05T17:06:43Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > My problem was assuming they were going to react rationally and address points directly. Then we can expect you to address the points raised against you shortly. Right? Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/103 "2010-10-05T17:08:56Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > My problem was assuming they were going to react rationally and address points directly. In the Pit? You really are stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/104 "2010-10-05T17:11:31Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > > My problem was assuming they were going to react rationally and address points directly. > > In the Pit? You really are stupid. :smack: No, for God’s sake. In the debate threads. Damn, you’re dense. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/105 "2010-10-05T17:14:54Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > [@kidchameleon](#): > > > > In the Pit? You really are stupid. > > :smack: No, for God’s sake. In the debate threads. Damn, you’re dense. Your shitty writing is tough to parse. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/106 "2010-10-05T17:23:38Z")
> [@kidchameleon](#): > > > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > > :smack: No, for God’s sake. In the debate threads. Damn, you’re dense. > > Your shitty writing is tough to parse. Okay, new rule. If you throw a tantrum like this, you go on ignore. I’m too damned good to waste time on your bullshit any more. You’re not as tough as you think you are or as worth reading as you think you are. You’re _nothing_ but an internet wanna-be tough guy who can’t get any in real life. Zap. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/107 "2010-10-05T17:27:31Z")
I give it three weeks, tops, before **Le Jacque-Ass** is talking to himself around here. And he’ll _still_ be wrong. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/108 "2010-10-05T17:33:01Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > [@Giraffe](#): > > > > See, I think you’re mixing up how I’d like to see Democrats act (i.e. maybe a tiny bit less like humongous pussies) and how I’d like to see liberal citizens act. I don’t expect Democrats to win political battles through reasonable dialogue alone. But the tactics that are unfortunately necessary to be successful in politics serve only to make one an obnoxious dick in regular society. > > > > You may never convince a die-hard conservative of anything through reasonable factual discourse. \*\*But if one of you is yelling insults and being an ass and the other is explaining their position in clear, intelligent language, one of you is going to be a lot more successful in swaying observers to the discussion. \*\*Hint: it’s not usually the one who is acting like a huge douche. > > Okay who was explaining their position in clear, intelligent language? Sure as fuck not the guys trash talking at me. I went ahead and bolded the part of my post that addresses this, since you obviously missed it the first time. Also, to be helpful, I’ll restate it: _even if the person you’re arguing with behaves badly_, it’s to your side’s benefit not to descend to the same level (the premise of your OP). Unfortunately, you are clearly a fucking moron, so I don’t expect you to understand any of this. Continue to bask in the illusion of victory, while your opponents smirk and the rest of us shake our heads. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/109 "2010-10-05T17:33:11Z")
I don’t get the ire. What do you have against my branch of Judaism? ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/110 "2010-10-05T17:34:52Z")
I’d like to thank **Le Jacquelope** for saving me having to open a pit thread. ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/111 "2010-10-05T17:44:34Z")
Oh man, so I put Shodan on ignore ages ago and missed out on this holy shit gem which Brain Glutton exposed in his/her response: I said: “If China gets ugly about it, default on all debt owed to them and cut them loose.” Shodan in his infinite stupidity said: “What will you do when the Supreme Court tells you that this is in direct violation of the Constitution?” Oh man, talk about not knowing what you’re talking about. The 14th Amendment bars defaults on public debt? And you bashers call yourselves smart? ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/112 "2010-10-05T17:50:04Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > > Okay who was explaining their position in clear, intelligent language? Sure as fuck not the guys trash talking at me. > > I went ahead and bolded the part of my post that addresses this, since you obviously missed it the first time. I didn’t miss it the first time. Your post was as idiotic the first time as it was the second time. > [@](#): > > Also, to be helpful, I’ll restate it: _even if the person you’re arguing with behaves badly_, it’s to your side’s benefit not to descend to the same level (the premise of your OP). Yes, you said that before. It was brain dead then and it’s brain dead now. Frankly speaking what I prefer in place of a debate with Conservatives would land me in Club Fed if I posted it here. So instead I gotta settle. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/113 "2010-10-05T17:50:44Z")
Arrrrg! I’m a Pirate! ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/114 "2010-10-05T17:53:25Z")
Pleasepleaseplease - nobody tell him. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/115 "2010-10-05T17:54:11Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > Frankly speaking what I prefer in place of a debate with Conservatives would land me in Club Fed if I posted it here. So instead I gotta settle. Wow, you sound super tough. I bet you are quite the ladies man in real life too. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/116 "2010-10-05T18:00:59Z")
**Le Jack** , I was digging your style for a minute or two … but now you’re just being a dick. You’re like **Rand Rover** in a tye-dye shirt. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/117 "2010-10-05T18:09:12Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > > Frankly speaking what I prefer in place of a debate with Conservatives would land me in Club Fed if I posted it here. So instead I gotta settle. > > Wow, you sound super tough. I bet you are quite the ladies man in real life too. He’s got the **MIP** \* going for him. \*Massive Internet Penis ---
**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/118 "2010-10-05T18:10:04Z")
> [@Giraffe](#): > > > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > > Frankly speaking what I prefer in place of a debate with Conservatives would land me in Club Fed if I posted it here. So instead I gotta settle. > > Wow, you sound super tough. I bet you are quite the ladies man in real life too. I’m just fed up. Tired of seeing guys bringing guns to townhall meetings and influencing people into voting for them that way while the Left stays home and lets them steamroll over us. Tired of the whole damned system. It’s broke. I’m desperate to see God hit the reset button. But on here, ignore works just fine, and by God I’m going to use it. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/119 "2010-10-05T18:11:57Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > But on here, ignore works just fine, and by God I’m going to use it. That’s the most badass thing I’ve ever seen. You are super badass. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/120 "2010-10-05T18:27:00Z")
> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#): > > > [@Giraffe](#): > > > > Wow, you sound super tough. I bet you are quite the ladies man in real life too. > > I’m just fed up. Tired of seeing guys bringing guns to townhall meetings and influencing people into voting for them that way while the Left stays home and lets them steamroll over us. Tired of the whole damned system. It’s broke. I’m desperate to see God hit the reset button. > > But on here, ignore works just fine, and by God I’m going to use it. The reset button gets pushed in November and then again in 2012. We’ll have a republican president and a majority in bot houses, so it will be progress time–lowering taxes, repealing obamacare, repealing any climate bill obama’s dumb ass manages to squeak through, and generally putting the brakes on the increase in the size of the federal government that obama and his goons have orchestrated. It’s going to be sweet, and I’ll be thinking of you the whole time. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059.md?page=7)