# I hate Conservatives.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059 "2010-10-04T23:06:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2010, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/141 "2010-10-05T23:50:30Z")

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Don’t have to be nice to them, have to live with them. For now. The Wall beckons…

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**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/142 "2010-10-06T00:23:23Z")

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I am so glad you started a Pit thread. I am sure someone else would have done the honor for you. You are a jackass. You are also among the most unpleasant, shrillest and least educated posters I have ever seen. Your understanding of international trade and economics is surpassed by my cat Paul, my two year old and my belly button lint.

I am also ignorant of many things, but I choose not to post about them. Perhaps you should consider the same course of action.

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**Author:** ![Scylla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Scylla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scylla)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/143 "2010-10-06T00:33:37Z")

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I crap bigger than jackemoff

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/144 "2010-10-06T02:32:20Z")

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> [@fruitbat](#):
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> I am so glad you started a Pit thread. I am sure someone else would have done the honor for you. You are a jackass. You are also among the most unpleasant, shrillest and least educated posters I have ever seen. Your understanding of international trade and economics is surpassed by my cat Paul, my two year old and my belly button lint.
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> I am also ignorant of many things, but I choose not to post about them. Perhaps you should consider the same course of action.

If you only posted about what you knew you’d have cut your ethernet cable by now you worthless shitsack. Who fathered your two year old anyway? I’m sure it was a neighbor, but maybe you weren’t told that?

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/145 "2010-10-06T03:04:58Z")

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> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#):
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> > [@elucidator](#):
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> > Let the other guys call out the attack dogs, release the hounds. We’ll feed them some stoney brownies, and pretty soon they’ll be laying by the fireplace licking their balls. The dogs, I mean.
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> Wait…who’ll be licking whose balls? English can be so vague sometimes.

It was better in the original Klingon.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/146 "2010-10-06T03:27:04Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> Oh man, so I put Shodan on ignore ages ago and missed out on this holy shit gem which Brain Glutton exposed in his/her response:
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> I said: “If China gets ugly about it, default on all debt owed to them and cut them loose.”
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> Shodan in his infinite stupidity said:  
> “What will you do when the Supreme Court tells you that this is in direct violation of the Constitution?”  
> Oh man, talk about not knowing what you’re talking about. The 14th Amendment bars defaults on public debt? And you bashers call yourselves smart?

Sorry, **Shodan** , I can’t resist. I tried to resist, but I just can’t.

**Le Jacquelope** , assuming that you have not followed through on your threat to put everybody on ignore, I would like to ask you why you think that the 14th Amendment, Section 4, would **not** bar default on public debt. It says explicitly that

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> The validity of the public debt of the United States, authorized by law, including debts incurred for payment of pensions and bounties for services in suppressing insurrection or rebellion, shall not be questioned.

Is that ambiguous? Really? So it is apparently your contention that some of us are dumb because we can read what is stated as plainly as can be, yet you expect us to swallow things that are quite clearly **not** written into the Constitution as rights that are protected by the same?

But I have no idea what I’m talking about. Plain English? The law? Pshaw. What difference does the law make in the face of your beliefs? All they do is get in the way of the liberal train comin’ down the tracks whether we like it or not. [They certainly never stopped the prototypical “liberal”, as it were, which is where I presume you’re getting your ideas about abrogating debt from](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gold_Clause_Cases).

And yet, “conservatives” are the bad guys. You betcha. All Aboard! It’s funny that your position is right in line with that evil conservative, Barry Goldwater, who said

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> I would remind you that extremism in the defense of liberty is no vice! And let me remind you also that moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue!

There’s no irony there whatsoever.

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**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/147 "2010-10-06T03:33:24Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> Oh man, so I put Shodan on ignore ages ago and missed out on this holy shit gem which Brain Glutton exposed in his/her response:
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> I said: “If China gets ugly about it, default on all debt owed to them and cut them loose.”
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> Shodan in his infinite stupidity said:  
> “What will you do when the Supreme Court tells you that this is in direct violation of the Constitution?”  
> Oh man, talk about not knowing what you’re talking about. The 14th Amendment bars defaults on public debt? And you bashers call yourselves smart?

How did you put Shodan on ignore ages ago when your join date is sept, 2010?

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/148 "2010-10-06T03:35:49Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> Don’t you just love how Conservatives twist the living hell out of what you said?
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> [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12992926&postcount=176](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12992926&postcount=176)
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> And when called on it, they slink away like little kids who think they got away with something. THAT is why I am so rarely nice to them.

Bigotry is fun, isn’t it?

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/149 "2010-10-06T05:41:02Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> **Le Jacquelope** , assuming that you have not followed through on your threat to put everybody on ignore,

A threat I never made. I never said I’d put EVERYONE on ignore. Can you show where I said that?

As for the 14th Amendment forbidding defaulting on foreign debt … um… HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAAHAA. Um, yeah. Congress, particularly the Republicans, could just refuse to authorize the raising of the debt limit and the printing of money to service it. [Please read](http://capitalgainsandgames.com/blog/bruce-bartlett/1787/debt-default-it-can-happen-here?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+CapitalGainsAndGames+(Capital+Gains+and+Games+-+Wall+Street,+Washington,+and+Everything+in+Between)). _sigh_ Can we now retire this nonsense please?

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> All they do is get in the way of the liberal train comin’ down the tracks whether we like it or not.

Huh?

Defaulting on the debt has often been a [Conservative idea](http://www.forbes.com/2010/05/22/default-united-states-economy-opinions-columnists-john-tamny.html). Also look up Nobel Prize-winning economist James M. Buchanan and “The Ethics of Debt Default”.

Oh God, I’ve been suckered in too far already. You just go with what you believe, ok?

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**Author:** ![Kurt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@Kurt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kurt)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 6:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/150 "2010-10-06T06:48:47Z")

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I love that the level of discourse on a board about “fighting ignorance” has basically devolved into:

“No, Liberals!”

“No, Conservatives!”

“Liberal” and “conservative” aren’t even antithetical, for fucks sake!

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/151 "2010-10-06T07:09:01Z")

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Oh man. This explains a lot.

> **[Colbert Looks At Tea Party Coloring Books For Kids (VIDEO)](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/colbert-tea-party-coloring-books_n_750482?ir=Books)**
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> Colbert Looks At Tea Party Coloring Books For Kids (VIDEO)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/152 "2010-10-06T09:28:18Z")

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> [@John Mace](#):
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> And so it begins…

Is it wrong that I hear that in the voice of Ambassador Kosh?

More on a continuing theme:  
[QUOTE=Le Jacquelope]  
You’re _nothing_ but an internet wanna-be tough guy who can’t get any in real life.  
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> [@Le Jacquelope](#):
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> Who fathered your two year old anyway? I’m sure it was a neighbor, but maybe you weren’t told that?

Seriously, dude, get help or get laid or something.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/153 "2010-10-06T10:16:54Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@John Mace](#):
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> > And so it begins…
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> Is it wrong that I hear that in the voice of Ambassador Kosh?
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> More on a continuing theme:
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> > [@Le Jacquelope](#):
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> > Who fathered your two year old anyway? I’m sure it was a neighbor, but maybe you weren’t told that?
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> Seriously, dude, get help or get laid or something.

Ah, the “I know you are but what am I?” comeback.  
Yup, you just jumped the shark.

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**Author:** ![Baboonanza](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/f475e1/32.png) [@Baboonanza](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baboonanza)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 10:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/154 "2010-10-06T10:46:51Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > [@Gyrate](#):
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> > Is it wrong that I hear that in the voice of Ambassador Kosh?
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> > More on a continuing theme:Seriously, dude, get help or get laid or something.
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> Ah, the “I know you are but what am I?” comeback.  
> Yup, you just jumped the shark.

Just. What? I…

Amazing.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 10:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/155 "2010-10-06T10:52:15Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > [@Gyrate](#):
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> > Is it wrong that I hear that in the voice of Ambassador Kosh?
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> > More on a continuing theme:Seriously, dude, get help or get laid or something.
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> Ah, the “I know you are but what am I?” comeback.  
> Yup, you just jumped the shark.

I am merely pointing out that you liberally [sic] litter your responses with allusions to masculinity and virility. Clearly impotence is something that preoccupies you on a subconscious level. There is no shame in this - I hear it happens to all men sometimes.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/156 "2010-10-06T11:47:47Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@John Mace](#):
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> > And so it begins…
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> Is it wrong that I hear that in the voice of Ambassador Kosh

Who are you?

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/157 "2010-10-06T11:57:19Z")

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> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#):
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> Sorry, **Shodan** , I can’t resist. I tried to resist, but I just can’t.

Darn you! Darn you to heck!

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 1:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/158 "2010-10-06T13:56:55Z")

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> [@Captain\_Amazing](#):
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> > [@Gyrate](#):
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> > Is it wrong that I hear that in the voice of Ambassador Kosh
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> Who are you?

What do you want?

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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/159 "2010-10-06T15:12:55Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> I’m looking forward to seeing the system fall apart and the country starting all over again.

> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> I’m up to 17 posts a day trying to raise some snot nosed brats. You’re not winning by logical arguments, so you’re looking to compensate by wasting a happily retired man’s time.

:dubious: Hmm… seems to me pretty unlikely that both of these sentiments could truthfully be expressed by the same person (or persona). Never met a retired person yet who wanted “the system” to collapse - at least not until after they’re dead.

> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Clearly impotence is something that preoccupies you on a subconscious level.

Then again, maybe you really are a member of the Viagra set.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/160 "2010-10-06T18:18:49Z")

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> [@Fuji](#):
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> > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > I’m looking forward to seeing the system fall apart and the country starting all over again.
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> :dubious: Hmm… seems to me pretty unlikely that both of these sentiments could truthfully be expressed by the same person (or persona). Never met a retired person yet who wanted “the system” to collapse - at least not until after they’re dead.

I put my money into stuff that my family can survive with just fine if hell breaks loose. Plus I live nearby a few farmers that I’m friends with. My basic electricity needs are fairly well covered with solar panels no matter what goes down (although computers may not run so well in the long run, especially in the winter, and internet service may go _poof_). Plus, I’ve got people I can rely on in hard times.

The fact is, much harder times are coming. You can debate whether one is right to look forward to it or not; meanwhile, I’m preparing.

Besides, if this economic system continues to limp along for decades on end, it’ll collapse anyway… with even more drastic consequences.

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> > [@Gyrate](#):
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> > Clearly impotence is something that preoccupies you on a subconscious level.
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> Then again, maybe you really are a member of the Viagra set.

Wow, you guys love the “I know you are but what am I?” comeback.

“You can’t get any.”  
“Oh yeah! Well YOU can’t get any!”

WTF.

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