# I hate Conservatives.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 4, 2010, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059 "2010-10-04T23:06:01Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Fuji](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a9a28c/32.png) [@Fuji](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuji)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/161 "2010-10-06T20:56:23Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> The fact is, much harder times are coming. You can debate whether one is right to look forward to it or not; meanwhile, I’m preparing.

Yeah, but according to your own words, you’ve already settled that “debate”:

_“I’m looking forward to seeing the system fall apart and the country starting all over again”_

You talk of your family - you really want your children & grandchildren to live in a collapsed society? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/162 "2010-10-06T21:06:45Z")

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> [@suranyi](#):
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> I hate conservatives also.
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> However, if you think that the division between people who agree with your arguments in [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=580533) thread is that those who agree are liberals and those who disagree are conservatives, you’re very much mistaken.
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> Liberals are not necessarily isolationists.

I’m more retributionist than isolationist. I would be happy to have free trade with a China that wasn’t engaging in unfair trade practices.

Free trade isn’t always beneficial if the other side is cheating.

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**Author:** ![magellan01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@magellan01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/magellan01)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/163 "2010-10-06T21:53:05Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> Wow, you guys love the “I know you are but what am I?” comeback.

Well, this:

> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> “You can’t get any.”

is worthy of this:

> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> “Oh yeah! Well YOU can’t get any!”

and little more.

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/164 "2010-10-07T04:49:19Z")

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Ummmm, you do realize that there are a lot more liberals than conservatives both on the SDMB and in this thread? And none of them are on your side? Maybe you should expand your hatred a bit.

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/165 "2010-10-07T05:57:11Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> I’m looking forward to seeing the system fall apart and the country starting all over again.

You know, I actually defended Obama when my mom claimed that he wants to destroy the county so it’s easy to start over as a communist nation, but I didn’t think I’d ever see a liberal on the boards stupid enough to admit that he wants to see the country in ruins even if Obama doesn’t. I stand corrected.

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**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/166 "2010-10-07T07:39:10Z")

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Modern American conservatives are thoroughly loathsome. They seem to think that their hatred and ignorance and threats of violence will get them what they want through bullying. It won’t. They are going to find out that the majority of Americans see them for their racism and McCarthyism, their lying propaganda and redefining of reality and reject it all over the next few election cycles. This cycle will not go as well for them as they hope. I hope.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 10:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/167 "2010-10-07T10:25:25Z")

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> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#):
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> Modern American conservatives are thoroughly loathsome. They seem to think that their hatred and ignorance and threats of violence will get them what they want through bullying. It won’t. They are going to find out that the majority of Americans see them for their racism and McCarthyism, their lying propaganda and redefining of reality and reject it all over the next few election cycles. This cycle will not go as well for them as they hope. I hope.

Welll, I’m glad to hear that my investment in that pig aeronautics academy will be paying off…

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/168 "2010-10-07T15:18:12Z")

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Better you should put your money in umbrella manufacture, 'cause when pig flop starts dropping from above, umbrellas are going to be _very_ much in demand.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/169 "2010-10-07T16:19:43Z")

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First of all I have people I can count on if hell breaks loose. My daughters have great toys and a lot of fun seeing the country but they know and are great friends with neighbors. We’re not a compound and we’re not the Sarah Palins. My eldest wants to be a brownie scout in 2 years. I’m not wishing hell upon my kids.

Now about how I feel about Conservatives: you think I’m awful or un-civil?

Have you read up on what’s going on in Europe lately? Those liberals RIOT for their beliefs. What you call “internet badass” behavior doesn’t even light a candle to what the Greeks recently did. Or the French, when some of them brazenly kidnapped corporate execs. Them fuckers know how to _party_ like us American liberals only WISH we could.

Liberals in America used to riot over important shit. Now we sit on our hands and let the Right verbally spit on us, burn our leaders in effigy, call our leaders’ daughter the “White House dog”, and wring our hands while they bring guns to townhall meetings. Conservatives call us named and talk about watering the tree of liberty with our blood while they back this rhetoric up with flying planes into IRS buildings, blowing up FBI buildings, shooting abortion clinic doctors and hanging out in the boondocks doing shooting practice.

Have you liberals been watching the price and sales statistics of firearm ammunition lately? You should be. It’s a warning sign.

In Europe? Liberals over there don’t take that kind of abuse. They deal it. The Tea Party only wishes they could throw down like the French. We on the other hand want to play nice and civil and “get along”.

Let’s look at how successful we’ve been in trying to get along, the way Giraffe wants. We lost the chance to get the Public Option. Retirement for Social Security is up to 67. We have the least amount of vacation days in the civilized world. Our wealth inequality is one of, if not the worst in the civilized world.

Now let’s look at the Europeans who are want to riot and throw it down: their retirement is much earlier, they have more guaranteed vacation days than us, their work hours are shorter, they have Universal Health Care, and their U6 unemployment rate actually dipped below ours in 2009. (It may still be lower.)

If I lived in Europe I’d be a part of their protests… which are a lot less civil than I have ever been here.

You go ahead and get along with the Righties. Good luck with that when November comes along. May the wisdom of your approach be judged by its results.

Ciao.

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**Author:** ![Le\_Jacquelope](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Le\_Jacquelope](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Le_Jacquelope)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/170 "2010-10-07T16:21:25Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > I’m looking forward to seeing the system fall apart and the country starting all over again.
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> You know, I actually defended Obama when my mom claimed that he wants to destroy the county so it’s easy to start over as a communist nation, but I didn’t think I’d ever see a liberal on the boards stupid enough to admit that he wants to see the country in ruins even if Obama doesn’t. I stand corrected.

We arose from the ruins of the Great Depression to become a better country.

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 4:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/171 "2010-10-07T16:27:23Z")

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We arose from WW2 a better country, because we won and everybody else lost.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/172 "2010-10-07T16:40:41Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> Have you read up on what’s going on in Europe lately? Those liberals RIOT for their beliefs. […]
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> Now let’s look at the Europeans who are want to riot and throw it down: their retirement is much earlier, they have more guaranteed vacation days than us, their work hours are shorter, they have Universal Health Care, and their U6 unemployment rate actually dipped below ours in 2009. (It may still be lower.)

Those aren’t “beliefs” in any meaningful sense; they’re “benefits” (I almost wrote “entitlements” but that’s a different can of worms to open).

I can understand why the folks on the Continent would feel strongly about attempts to cut social benefits to which they have become accustomed - we narrowly missed the recent cut on UK child benefit ourselves, and I know that if they tried to abolish the NHS there would be blood in the streets of London - but I’m not sure I’d classify all of their anger as being principles-based. Some of it is just about money.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/173 "2010-10-07T18:31:51Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > [@Clothahump](#):
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> > I got a better idea. How about everybody puts you on ignore? Then you can howl like a broke-dick dog all you want and you won’t be annoying the adults.
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> You call yourself an adult? More delusions of grandeur. Use ignore all you want. You’ll find I really do not care. Once again, allow me to repeat: you putting me on ignore means a hill of shit. No, wait, at least shit can fertilize something; at least it’s useful.
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> Howl like a broke-dick dog? Yeah, you definitely got pissed when I showed you that red states take in more welfare dollars than they produce. I bet [this](http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_3nYNnA8A8cA/SVADW1HgraI/AAAAAAAAAKc/jt17iXRg-nY/s400/red-state-socialism.jpg) or [this](http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2009/06/27/opinion/27blowlarge.jpg) will really piss you off!

ROTFLOL!

I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there.

Keep it up, amigo. I haven’t seen anything this funny since I last watched the chimps in the monkey house at the zoo doing their thing.

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**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\
**Post date:** [October 7, 2010, 7:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/174 "2010-10-07T19:42:49Z")

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> [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> [Conservatives] can’t argue worth crap, they’re always evasive, they distort things **and they don’t give a rip about America’s working class**.

[BWAHAHAHAHA!](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/white-house/obamas-struggles-with-working.html)

> [@](#):
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> Democrats have struggled with working class white voters since the 1980s when President Ronald Reagan assiduously – and successfully – courted them as part of his electoral coalition. (Hence the term “Reagan Democrats”.)

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 8:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/175 "2010-10-08T08:58:50Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there

Glad you find it amusing. Do you have anything substantive to say about it or are you just going to continue to giggle and play with yourself?

> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > [Conservatives] can’t argue worth crap, they’re always evasive, they distort things **and they don’t give a rip about America’s working class**.
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> [BWAHAHAHAHA!](http://voices.washingtonpost.com/thefix/white-house/obamas-struggles-with-working.html)

Oh my god it’s catching. Looks like a severe case of Conservative kuru.

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> > Democrats have struggled with working class white voters since the 1980s when President Ronald Reagan assiduously – and successfully – courted them as part of his electoral coalition. (Hence the term “Reagan Democrats”.)

The Democrats care [del]deeply[/del] [del]a lot[/del] somewhat about the working poor in America but tend to talk down to them and don’t connect. The Republicans don’t give a damn about them and frequently act to screw them over but are very good at getting them to vote against their best interests by appealing to fear, hatred and blind patriotism.

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/176 "2010-10-08T13:20:27Z")

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How’s that clingy gunny thing workin’ for ya?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/177 "2010-10-08T13:23:14Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> How’s that clingy gunny thing workin’ for ya?

Exactly so.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/178 "2010-10-08T14:16:42Z")

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> [@Fuji](#):
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> > [@Le\_Jacquelope](#):
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> > The fact is, much harder times are coming. You can debate whether one is right to look forward to it or not; meanwhile, I’m preparing.
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> Yeah, but according to your own words, you’ve already settled that “debate”:
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> _“I’m looking forward to seeing the system fall apart and the country starting all over again”_
> 
> You talk of your family - you really want your children & grandchildren to live in a collapsed society? :dubious:

Well… it’s good to get it out of the way when they’re young, like measles.

I’m confident I could engage in a serious thoughtful debate over the political divide. I have my doubts Jac can, though. Sooner or later he’d try to score points through insult, left with no other ammo.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [October 8, 2010, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/179 "2010-10-08T22:51:02Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> > [@Clothahump](#):
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> > I don’t care who you are, that’s funny right there
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> Glad you find it amusing. Do you have anything substantive to say about it or are you just going to continue to giggle and play with yourself?

I don’t need to say anything more about it. His stupidity shines through like a spotlight.

And you are apparently drawn to it like a moth.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [October 9, 2010, 2:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-conservatives/556059/180 "2010-10-09T02:34:49Z")

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> [@magellan01](#):
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> You’;re conflating two things: conservatism with the mainstream republican party.

Because no TRUE SCOTTSMAN ermm I mean CONSERVATIVE would have run up the national debt and the deficit during the last 30 years like the Republicans have done. Nope, and its all Obama’s fault anyway.

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> And now that people see what the Dems really want to do

And what do Dems REALLY want to do?

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> there has been a strong conservative resurgence, one which will be reflected come November. So, if you don’t like the way things are now, you’re going to hate where things will be after November.

If you loved your country, so would you.

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