# I hate dotted capital letter "I"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [January 25, 2013, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322 "2013-01-25T15:05:00Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [January 27, 2013, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/21 "2013-01-27T00:50:59Z")

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[Sesame Street speaks](http://youtu.be/losBZCpzbi8).

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**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/22 "2013-01-28T00:12:49Z")

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I see these guy’s C **i** NTAS trucks every dAy and I crInge, twIce.

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**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/23 "2013-01-28T05:39:53Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> If the OP hates the dotted capital I, what will he think when he finds out what [Tiếng Việt](http://vi.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ti%E1%BA%BFng_Vi%E1%BB%87t) (i.e., Vietnamese) has done to the poor Latin alphabet – dots and squiggles in every direction.

I absolutely love diacritics.

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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/24 "2013-01-28T05:46:30Z")

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> [@Sunspace](#):
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> that’s a d1fferent trick.
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> Edit. Well, whaddaya know. Both **Nava** ’s quoted words and my unquoted ones were small-letter-ified. The arms race is heating up. 🙂

That’s because you took out the part with the trick that kept my original line all-capped.

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**Author:** ![chizzuk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e36b37/32.png) [@chizzuk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chizzuk)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 8:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/25 "2013-01-28T08:09:53Z")

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I don’t dot any of my I’s or J’s, upper or lower case. I also write the bits of the letter K too far apart sometimes so it looks like “l s” and I don’t put a tail on my lower-case g’s, so it looks exactly the same as a q. My lower case r’s have also been mistaken for v’s.

Should I assume I’ll be first against the wall?

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**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/26 "2013-01-28T18:39:40Z")

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Ugh, our gas stations have started being taken over by some bloody company called RUBiS

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [January 28, 2013, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/27 "2013-01-28T21:43:41Z")

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> [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](#):
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> Ugh, our gas stations have started being taken over by some bloody company called RUBiS

The i doesn’t bother me so much as the fact that nobody naming that company never thought of the possibility about how the name could be drastically changed with the application of some paint to the lower part of the “R.” :smack:

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**Author:** ![Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8c91f0/32.png) [@Bam\_Boo\_Gut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bam_Boo_Gut)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/28 "2013-01-29T03:32:32Z")

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> [@thelurkinghorror](#):
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> The i doesn’t bother me so much as the fact that nobody naming that company never thought of the possibility about how the name could be drastically changed with the application of some paint to the lower part of the “R.” :smack:

😃 They’ve put the signs quite high up though, I’ll need someone to hold the ladder. What you doing at about 3am?

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/29 "2013-01-29T03:55:10Z")

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nm

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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [January 29, 2013, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/30 "2013-01-29T20:31:07Z")

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Uh oh. I write in all caps except for a dotted capital I and J. I always have. I mean, even my official signature is like that. It’s because when I write them with serifs, they look ugly. Something to do with being left-handed? I don’t know. Plus, I always loved the way Arabic and Sanskrit look, with their dots and flourishes.

But unless you had to wade through some handwritten junior-high-school essay of mine, I don’t see how I could have pissed you off. 🆒

I cross my 7s and Zs too. If I could remember the formatting for strikeouts, I would have done that here, just to be annoying.

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**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/31 "2013-01-30T00:43:55Z")

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> [@brujaja](#):
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> Uh oh. I write in all caps except for a dotted capital I and J. I always have. I mean, even my official signature is like that. It’s because when I write them with serifs, they look ugly.

One of the things I remember my high school art teacher impressing upon me, lo those many years ago, is that it is Wrong to write capital I and J with serifs in an otherwise sans-serif font.

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**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/32 "2013-01-30T02:10:00Z")

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> [@california\_jobcase](#):
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> Oops- the Korean dude was Kim Jong Il, mistakenly called “the second”. I apologize to the multitudes of North Koreans who read my previous post.

A news reader here got in trouble for reading “Kim Jong Il” as “Kim Jong Deux.” No doubt she was confused by the presence of Kim Jong Un.

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**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\
**Post date:** [January 30, 2013, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-dotted-capital-letter-i/648322/33 "2013-01-30T03:26:17Z")

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> [@matt\_mcl](#):
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> A news reader here got in trouble for reading “Kim Jong Il” as “Kim Jong Deux.” No doubt she was confused by the presence of Kim Jong Un.

Not only do Koreans have [weird age systems](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Asian_age_reckoning#Korean), which I would blame on the Kims trying to one-up Westerners’ ages if I didn’t know SK did this too, but they count their numbers backwards! Next up, Kim Jong-zéro.

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