# I hate Enterprise

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 12, 2002, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358 "2002-12-12T23:40:04Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![raisinbread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8491ac/32.png) [@raisinbread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raisinbread)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/1 "2002-12-12T23:40:04Z")

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I hate Enterprise. The only good thing about the show, T’Pol as eye candy, has gotten old already. The stories are lame, the action is non-existent, the crew is acting like every rule and regulation of the Federation has been in effect for a hundred years even though the Federation isn’t even a twinkle in Earth’s eye. There was one good episode, the first one with Andorrians and the Vulcan monastery, but after that it seems to be everyone standing around talking with no action whatsoever. The plots are not engaging nor do I find myself caring about the characters. When I first heard that there was going to be a sort of Star Trek prequel I was excited thinking this would be cool except it’s lame, humdrum bullshit of everyone playing it safe. Of course I’m an imbecile thinking there may be new ground broken in a Star Trek series but just for a moment I thought Enterprise would be different.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/2 "2002-12-12T23:43:04Z")

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What are you, some kind of _Babylon 5_ freak?

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**Author:** ![DadWagonDriver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/edb3f5/32.png) [@DadWagonDriver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DadWagonDriver)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/3 "2002-12-12T23:48:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Bryan Ekers \*  
> \*\*What are you, some kind of _Babylon 5_ freak? \*\*

_sniff_ I miss B5.

That is all.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/4 "2002-12-12T23:53:21Z")

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I like _Enterprise_. I like _Babylon 5_ as well - even buying the entire series.

(Of course, I also liked _Millennium_, and I’ve been nailed to the wall about that one before.)

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 11:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/5 "2002-12-12T23:54:28Z")

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I can’t even get past the opening song.

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/6 "2002-12-12T23:57:53Z")

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More proof that I’m just strange: I like all the incarnations of the Star Trek show. I’m also kind of fond of the old British series _UFO_ and also of _Space 1999_.

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**Author:** ![Slip\_Mahoney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47774/32.png) [@Slip\_Mahoney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slip_Mahoney)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2002, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/7 "2002-12-12T23:59:17Z")

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I feel your pain, brother.

I felt exactly the same when Martin and Lewis broke up.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/8 "2002-12-13T00:00:32Z")

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How come archer has all that whizzy technology and then Kirk (who comes later) has bakelite? Hmmm?

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/9 "2002-12-13T00:03:12Z")

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Yes, but it has Hoshi! HOSHI!! What else do you need?

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**Author:** ![Wabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ba9def/32.png) [@Wabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wabbit)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/10 "2002-12-13T00:03:17Z")

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Yea, I wonder what genius decided that Bryan Adams would be the perfect musician to write an opening song for a sci fi show.

And I refuse to watch Trek until they create a credible human bad guy (and no, ‘Q’ doesn’t count). The idea that the human race has somehow evolved into paragons of virtue while all those poor, benighted Klingons, Romulans and Cardassians muddle through life being evil is too much of a jump for me to make. I just hope and pray that some star-faring civilization doesn’t come across some old Trek broadcasts and decide to exterminate us all just for being a bunch of sanctimonious twits… 😉

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/11 "2002-12-13T00:05:14Z")

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Kaaahnnnn!!!

Kaaahhhnnnn!!!

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**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/12 "2002-12-13T00:06:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tars Tarkas \*  
> \*\*Yes, but it has Hoshi! HOSHI!! What else do you need? \*\*

_Mmmmm… Hoshi!_

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/13 "2002-12-13T00:12:17Z")

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Mmmm… Harry Kim…

(Oh, wait - wrong series.)

Mmmm… Mayweather…

Esprix

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/14 "2002-12-13T00:17:21Z")

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Re: Hoshi, aka Linda Park.  
Ref: Tars Tarkas and Astroboy postings above.  
Msg: Agreed.  
Related topic: Space 1999.  
Additional msg: Who’s the actress who played Sandra?

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/15 "2002-12-13T00:24:38Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Monty \*  
> \*\*Related topic: Space 1999.  
> Additional msg: Who’s the actress who played Sandra? \*\*

[Zienia Merton](http://us.imdb.com/Name?Merton,%20Zienia).

[http://www.homecinemachoice.com/articles/miscarticles/200103Space1999/200103Space1999.shtml](http://www.homecinemachoice.com/articles/frame.html?%5Burl)"]A great Space: 1999 site. Now available on DVD.

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/16 "2002-12-13T00:27:33Z")

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Grrr!!  
[Corrected Space: 1999 link](http://www.homecinemachoice.com/articles/miscarticles/200103Space1999/200103Space1999.shtml).

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**Author:** ![bernse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a9a28c/32.png) [@bernse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bernse)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/17 "2002-12-13T00:28:46Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by Astroboy14 \*  
> \*\*_Mmmmm… Hoshi!_ \*\*

You know, at first when I saw people saying:

_Hoshi… mmmmmm_

in a few other threads, I thought they were joking and being really mean pricks. But then it dawned on me that some guys here really think she’s attractive. I didn’t even think of that as a possiblity. Really. Am I the only one that thought that?

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**Author:** ![EasyPhil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e47c2d/32.png) [@EasyPhil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EasyPhil)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/18 "2002-12-13T00:33:19Z")

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Bring back Voyager and Deep Space Nine!

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**Author:** ![Tars\_Tarkas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Tars\_Tarkas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tars_Tarkas)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/19 "2002-12-13T00:47:06Z")

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> [@](#):
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> \*Originally posted by bernse \*  
> \*\*But then it dawned on me that some guys here really think she’s attractive. I didn’t even think of that as a possiblity. Really. Am I the only one that thought that? \*\*

Smart Alec answer: Yes  
Real answer: I’ve seen some other people say they didn’t care for her, so probably not

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**Author:** ![apotheosis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ba8739/32.png) [@apotheosis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/apotheosis)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2002, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-enterprise/142358/20 "2002-12-13T00:53:27Z")

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Voyager had a great opening theme.

B5 \> Star Trek.

That is all.

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