# I hate Florence and the Machine **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 26, 2011, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-florence-and-the-machine/579734 "2011-04-26T03:05:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 4\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-florence-and-the-machine/579734/81 "2024-04-19T16:12:44Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Also: I don’t particularly care for F&TM. So I don’t listen to them. Not sure they’re worth the effort of “hating”, though, and other people seem to like them. True music fans either love an artist or hate them. There is no middle ground. And if you hate them, it is your duty to let as many people know as possible. You can’t truly appreciate music unless you’ve shit on someone else’s favorites. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-florence-and-the-machine/579734/82 "2024-04-19T16:18:01Z")
I operate on the basis that “things that are good/bad” and “things I like/don’t like” are on different axes. So not only are there things that are good that I like and bad that I don’t like, there are things that are objectively of good quality that nonetheless don’t appeal to me, and things that are stupid and crappy that nonetheless appeal to me (think of this as the aesthetic version of fast food, if that helps). As such, I don’t consider myself the default arbiter of quality based on my personal preferences alone. Because **it’s not all about me**. Anyhoo, Florence and the Machine sucks. Apparently. I dunno - they seem okay to me, but here is a whole thread about it. ---
**Author:** ![scabpicker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scabpicker/32/8268_2.png) [@scabpicker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scabpicker)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-florence-and-the-machine/579734/83 "2024-04-19T17:48:35Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > True music fans either love an artist or hate them. There is no middle ground. And if you hate them, it is your duty to let as many people know as possible. Really? I’ve been doing it wrong, then. Everything you people listen to sucks, and is crap! Everything I listen to sucks, and is crap too. But it’s crap that I like, though. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2024, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-florence-and-the-machine/579734/84 "2024-04-19T17:52:56Z")
> [@TroutMan](#): > > You can’t truly appreciate music unless you’ve shit on someone else’s favorites. I’m actually indifferent to a lot of music; The Smiths are just background noise; U2 is massively overrated radio friendly pap; Phil Collins is expertly overproduced synth-pop that I could live without (I like Genesis, though, up through _Abacab_); and I don’t care at all about Taylor Swift but I recognize that she is talented and that people like her for their own perfectly valid reasons. However, Florence + The Machine are an acoustic menace, a jarring panoply of compressed noise and irritatingly infantile lyrics, and also the restaurant/bar below me used to play that fucking “Ship To Wreck” song three to five times a day, just drilling into my hindbrain how absolutely terrible that song is. If I had three musical black holes for pop/rock bands, I would toss in F+TM, Fleetwood Mac, and either Coldplay or Oasis, depending on the phase of the moon. Stranger [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-florence-and-the-machine/579734.md?page=4)