# I hate it when people pit the mods/admins. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 9, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833 "2004-09-09T22:37:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/1 "2004-09-09T22:37:06Z")
Especially when it’s about something they have explained. End extra specially when the pitting is done by ‘experienced’ dopers. Give these people a break. They work here for nothing. You people are crapping on their dinnertables by complaining about them. They know what the fuck they are doing. I have never know such a careful and considered bunch of people. I’d almost call them perfect. And before you go dirt-finding. I have pitted them (individuals) myself. Back then I was a dick. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/2 "2004-09-09T22:49:14Z")
Hole German scheitza videos, Batman! Nice ass kissing! ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/3 "2004-09-09T22:49:35Z")
Wow. You know what I hate? When someone has a criticism of a mod, and some apple polisher comes along and says, “Hey, be nice to Teacher. She’s the smartest and prettiest teacher in the world, and she works OH so very hard to help us grow up into good little girls and boys.” It always creeps me out, such transparent brownnosing. It muddies up a thread with self-serving little highjacks. But this is the first time I’ve ever seen what seems to be preemptive brownnosing. Unless . . . unless it’s like when I come home and my dog is especially felicitous; big eyes, big wags, offers his belly instantly . . . Lobsang, did you pee on the rug? ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/4 "2004-09-09T22:50:25Z")
Of course I meant “holy”, not “hole,” but I really can’t think of a more apropos typo. ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/5 "2004-09-09T22:54:27Z")
OK so I went a little overboard on the complements. Hey, I’m drunk. But it still pisses me off when people don’t THINK before they post whinging shite about upgrades. Have some fucking patience for og’s sake! ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/6 "2004-09-09T23:00:13Z")
P.S. What could I _possibly_ gain from ass-kissing?? In a place where I haven’t a snowball’s chance in hell of becoming a moderator there is nothing to be gained from brown nosing. I find the implication insulting and laughable ---
**Author:** ![bluecanary](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bluecanary/32/3614_2.png) [@bluecanary](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bluecanary)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/7 "2004-09-09T23:02:17Z")
Haven’t you ever heard the maxim ‘Don’t post when drunk’ It’s not for nowt. ---
**Author:** ![porcupine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ac91a4/32.png) [@porcupine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/porcupine)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/8 "2004-09-09T23:06:14Z")
> [@Lobsang](#): > > But it still pisses me off when people don’t THINK before they post … Yeah. ---
**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/9 "2004-09-09T23:18:57Z")
> [@bluecanary](#): > > Haven’t you ever heard the maxim ‘Don’t post when drunk’ > > It’s not for nowt. Unlike me. Most internet users can’t retain literacy and intelect when drunk. Hence the maxim. My only problem with posting drunk is that people who seem to care about me worry that I am a drinker. I have sympathy for those people. Other than that I don’t particularly worry about what I _say_ whilst drunk, as when I am sober I don’t feel a great deal of embarrasment about what I posted whilst drunk. ---
**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/10 "2004-09-09T23:21:50Z")
Yeah. I have sympathy for people who seem to care for you too. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/11 "2004-09-09T23:22:16Z")
> [@Lobsang](#): > > P.S. What could I _possibly_ gain from ass-kissing?? In a place where I haven’t a snowball’s chance in hell of becoming a moderator there is nothing to be gained from brown nosing. I find the implication insulting and laughable Yeah, it would only make sense in a forum where the moderators’ judgments is frequently colored by personal prejudice. Oh wait . . . am\* I \*drunk? ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/12 "2004-09-09T23:26:32Z")
Whining about upgrades is different from complaining about specific “injustices” in the conduct of the mods. One or two of them are rumored to have flaws that need to be called to their attention now and then. For example, **Coldfire** once posted a link to a a snapshot of himself in a kilt. You can’t just let something like that go without comment. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2004, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/13 "2004-09-09T23:59:58Z")
This thread is the message equivalent of the 3am drunken phone call. "Mods, are you there? I just wanted to tell you I love you guys! Everyone’s always saying what assholes you guys are, and I’ve said that too, but I was wrong. Pick up if you’re there! I love you guys! I am so drunk! But I really love you guys! Man, I’m drunk." (click) Good job, **Lobsang**. We don’t enough drunken “I love you!” threads around here. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/14 "2004-09-10T01:33:21Z")
I think that it is quite possible to both have a very high view and great respect for the unpaid and often frustrating job that our Mods. and Admins. do, and still be able to challenge a decision that makes one think that the Mod. in question was, well, experiencing an altered state of consciousness when he/she made that call. Without dredging up old and extremely sad memories, **Dex** suffered a lapse in judgment in Pitting a Doper now deceased, now admits fully that it was one, and was called on it by a wide assortment of people. A part of the process that keeps them doing the great job that they do is the fact that they can be called, here in the Pit, for a perceived error in moderation. This enables staff as a group, Jenny the **TubaDiva** as the senior staff member, and **Ed Zotti** as the Reader liaison in charge of the Mods., to adjust rules and moderation standards when someone is clearly – or not so clearly – misapplying his/her Mod. privileges. In short, I’m certain that no Mod. relishes being Pitted – but I believe they see the idea that they can be as an integral part of the feedback that keeps their moderation, well, _moderate_ – fair and unbiased, allowing as much freedom as possible while protecting the board and the Reader, and the membership. ---
**Author:** ![Ukulele\_Ike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/df788c/32.png) [@Ukulele\_Ike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ukulele_Ike)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/15 "2004-09-10T02:00:35Z")
> [@Jack Batty](#): > > Of course I meant “holy”, not “hole,” but I really can’t think of a more apropos typo. I’d fix that typo for you, but just now I’m busy polishing **Zotti’s** jackboots. ---
**Author:** ![TVeblen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/4bbf92/32.png) [@TVeblen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TVeblen)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/16 "2004-09-10T02:45:06Z")
> [@lissener](#): > > Yeah, it would only make sense in a forum where the moderators’ judgments is \*\* frequently colored by personal prejudice.\*\* Oh wait . . . am\* I \*drunk? (bolding added for emphasis) Forget tongue-shining Zotti’s jackboots. I’m busy obsessively dissecting every word ever written by every single poster. Hey, it’s the _only_ way to bolster a nasty prejudice. We aren’t paid but we aren’t martyrs either. Most of us last a few years before the sheer volume of reading and associated time commitment required wear us down. Hate to blast a juicy conspiracy theory outta the water, but we have the _time_, much less inclination, to nitpick everything. That said… Posting drunk–or in any similar state of altered consciousness–is a risky proposition for anyone, mainly because we grant posters the right and responsiblity of standing behind their own words. You post it; you claim it. Veb Who wishes Zotti would at least switch to strawberry-kiwi boot polish. Blech! ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/17 "2004-09-10T03:21:56Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > Veb > Who wishes Zotti would at least switch to strawberry-kiwi boot polish. Blech! Silly girl! Why don’t you use your hair to polish the jackboots? Save the oral apparatus for ass-kissing. Unless Ed uses the polish on his… :eek: ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/18 "2004-09-10T03:48:44Z")
> [@TVeblen](#): > > F > Posting drunk–or in any similar state of altered consciousness–is a risky proposition for anyone, mainly because we grant posters the right and responsiblity of standing behind their own words. You post it; you claim it. Wasn’t drunk; was riffing on earlier theme in this thread. See? Told you I was funny. ---
**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/19 "2004-09-10T14:02:03Z")
I don’t get this whole “thankless job” that always comes up in a mod’s defense. Why do you think a mod is motivated to ask for and/or accept this job? Power. I don’t think I’ve ever seen a thread closing that included a kind word. Nor have I ever seen a mod admit he/she was wrong about a thread closing. The decision to move versus close a thread often seems to be motivated by the mod’s interest or tolerance of the subject matter. **Lynn Bodoni** has always struck me as fair and reasonable, but then again, she’s not a mod. ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/20 "2004-09-10T14:07:28Z")
C’mon guys, cut Lobbers some slack; this is the online equivalent of getting pissed out of your head and saying 'You know what[hic], you’re [hic]my _best mate_ you are. No, you are[hic], you’re my best [hic]mate, [snif] I _love_ you, I do" [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833.md?page=2)