# I hate it when people pit the mods/admins.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 9, 2004, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833 "2004-09-09T22:37:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/21 "2004-09-10T14:20:03Z")

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> [@KidCharlemagne](#):
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> I don’t think I’ve ever seen a thread closing that included a kind word.

I have, frequently. In the case of newbies, I have seen mods close or move threads while including a “welcome to the boards” and a friendly suggestion to check the forum descriptions and the FAQ.

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> Nor have I ever seen a mod admit he/she was wrong about a thread closing.

I’ve at least two or three in the past month alone, by **Dex** and **Cajun man**

You’ve either missed these, or have a highly selective memory.

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**Author:** ![stpauler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@stpauler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stpauler)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/22 "2004-09-10T15:17:33Z")

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> [@KidCharlemagne](#):
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> Nor have I ever seen a mod admit he/she was wrong about a thread closing.

Well, here’s a mod who has rescinded their group decision regarding [magic not too long ago](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=266416):

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> The arguments and cites offered in threads following the incident gave us sufficient reason to believe that our decision was in error, and we moved towards reversing the decision.
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> While it took us more than a day to overturn the decision, I hope you understand that modmail was deluged with arguments and counter-arguments, both from members and mods/admins, and arriving at a consensus took us more time than our membership would have liked.
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> After the decision to overturn had been made final, the thread was reopened and discussion and explanation of the trick(s) were allowed.

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**Author:** ![KidCharlemagne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ed8c4c/32.png) [@KidCharlemagne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KidCharlemagne)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/23 "2004-09-10T15:18:05Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> > I have, frequently. In the case of newbies, I have seen mods close or move threads while including a “welcome to the boards” and a friendly suggestion to check the forum descriptions and the FAQ.
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> Yes, there is a reasonable tolerance for newbies. I agree.

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> I’ve at least two or three in the past month alone, by **Dex** and **Cajun man**
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> You’ve either missed these, or have a highly selective memory.

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I definitely don’t have a selective memory so I probably missed them. Did they reopen the threads in those cases? The only time I’ve seen a position change on a thread closing was when **manhattan** closed my thread about “What does the Geneva Convention dictate as SOP when taking a POW is not a reasonable option.” It had become a bit of an argument about the ethics of various alternatives and **manhattan** closed it on the basis that the factual question was answered/ or that there was no factual answer. I guess he got a lot of emails about it because it was a popular and interesting (If I say) thread and he said he would reopen it but under conditions of civility among the participants. I thought that was pretty cool.

I don’t have much experience with **Dex** or **Cajun Man** , nor do I see them in the pit much where contested thread closings move into the spotlight. If you remember the threads, point them out because I could do with spying some goodwill these days.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 3:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/24 "2004-09-10T15:30:30Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> You people are crapping on their dinnertables by complaining about them.

I don’t really think that they are missing meals or losing sleep worrying about what we, strangers for the most part, think of them.

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**Author:** ![Aldebaran](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Aldebaran](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aldebaran)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/25 "2004-09-10T16:21:55Z")

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> [@KidCharlemagne](#):
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> **Lynn Bodoni** has always struck me as fair and reasonable, but then again, she’s not a mod.

So sorry that I can’t join you in this praise for more then obvious and more then justified reasons.

Salaam. A

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**Author:** ![Hamlet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hamlet/32/2818_2.png) [@Hamlet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hamlet)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/26 "2004-09-10T20:17:49Z")

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> [@Aldebaran](#):
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> So sorry that I can’t join you in this praise for more then obvious and more then justified reasons.
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> Salaam. A

I can’t decide which animal metaphor is more appropriate for you **Alde** , the sleeping dog or the dead horse. You know what, I’ll let you pick.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 10, 2004, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/27 "2004-09-10T22:26:46Z")

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> [@Kid Charlemagne](#):
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> I definitely don’t have a selective memory so I probably missed them. Did they reopen the threads in those cases?

Yes, they reopened them. **Lobsang** opened six poll threads about Creedence Clearwater Revival in Cafe Society, that at first looked to **Dex** like spam. He reopened them when he found out that similar threads had been permitted in the past. Do a search on Creedence if you really want to find them/

**Cajun Man** closed [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=274350) on the grounds that it looked like homework, and re-opened it when persuaded it was not.

There also was a recent thread about how to do a certain magic trick that was at first closed by **TubaDiva** due to supposed copyright issues. I don’t believe the original thread was re-opened, but a new one on the same subject was allowed.

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2004, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/28 "2004-09-11T15:31:08Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> **Lobsang** opened six poll threads about Creedence Clearwater Revival in Cafe Society

That’s news to me. You confusing me with someone else?

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2004, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/29 "2004-09-11T17:42:23Z")

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> [@Lobsang](#):
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> That’s news to me. You confusing me with someone else?

My apologies. It was **JohnBckWLD**.

I was confused by the similarities of your names. 🙂

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2004, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/30 "2004-09-11T17:46:13Z")

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> [@Colibri](#):
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> My apologies. It was **JohnBckWLD**.
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> I was confused by the similarities of your names. 🙂

Yeah that happens all the time. 😃

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**Author:** ![Lobsang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobsang/32/4067_2.png) [@Lobsang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobsang)\
**Post date:** [September 11, 2004, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/31 "2004-09-11T20:11:01Z")

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It just struck a nerve when I saw this

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> Just starting this thread took five minutes. New server, eh?
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> I’d write more, but I blew all my free time waiting for the page to refresh. I guess I’ll do all my posting at 3:00AM, when no one is here, lest one ping too many takes the frigging place down.

(titled “Nice fucking upgrade”)  
Fine way to thank the admins for trying to do us a favour and give us a potentially better server. And it also irked me that the OP obviously hadn’t bothered to read the announcement in full, explaining that there would be a good reason for the temporary slowness.

It irked me enough to make a new thread about it. And as I was drunk I was a bit liberal with the mod praise.

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**Author:** ![DKW](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dkw/32/3118_2.png) [@DKW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DKW)\
**Post date:** [September 14, 2004, 7:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-it-when-people-pit-the-mods-admins/263833/32 "2004-09-14T07:06:14Z")

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The moderators here actually enforce the freaking rules and respond to problems. That alone puts them above at least 99.99% of the moderators I’ve had to deal with. (For example, the GameFAQs boards are now completely out of control anarchic hellholes thanks to the drunken comatose waste-of-oxygen mods. Just felt the need to point that out again.)

You want to flame and troll and spam like a psychopath, there are HUNDREDS of freaking websites where you can do that. (Did I mention GameFAQs? And Madman’s Cafe. Madman’s Cafe has never deleted a post for any reason.) Here, you act like a human being. Period.

Unless, of course, you’re just trying to start something with a mod for your own petty reasons. That, unfortunately, I can’t help you with. 🙂

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