# I hate Jacksonville Nazis **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 20, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513 "2023-01-20T17:06:35Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/1 "2023-01-20T17:06:35Z")
Seriously - WTF is going on in Jacksonville and elsewhere in Florida? Someone (or several someones) has been projecting Neo-Nazi messages on the sides of buildings. > **[Neo-Nazi messages keep appearing on buildings all over Florida](https://www.newsweek.com/florida-antisemitic-messages-swastika-jacksonville-west-palm-beach-1774725)** > > A spate of projections of antisemitic messages and hate symbols across Florida, linked to neo-Nazi groups, has outraged residents and prompted lawmakers to act. > [@](#): > > On January 15, at around 9 p.m. ET, a projection appeared on the AT&T building on Gardenia Street in West Palm Beach, according to local reports. Video footage from the scene shows the words “Jews did 9-11 the [FBI](https://www.newsweek.com/topic/fbi) helped” scrolling across the building’s face. > [@](#): > > On January 16, Stop Antisemitism posted [footage](https://twitter.com/StopAntisemites/status/1615022676673957892) watermarked with the logo of NSF, of another building projection, this time in Jacksonville. On the top of the Wells Fargo building, the words “Jews are wrecking the U.S.A.” scroll across. > **[Legislation pending to stop hate speech on Jacksonville buildings](https://floridapolitics.com/archives/581386-legislation-pending-to-stop-hate-speech-projections-on-jacksonville-buildings/)** > > The bill will be filed on an emergency basis. > [@](#): > > A swastika and a cross were projected on the CSX building downtown, the latest message in a series of white supremacist provocations displayed on local structures during high-profile football games. I mean, this is hardly the only incident involving an increased prominence in neo-Nazi sentiment but still, someone seems determined to turn the volume up to 11 on the quiet parts. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/2 "2023-01-20T17:30:31Z")
Why is this a surprise? Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is a picture-perfect aspiring fascist, and while he has been canny enough to not attack Jewish people, favoring instead public health experts, educators, LGBTQ people, and other suitably distrusted and marginalized groups, he provides an example and incentive to all flavors of bigotry and hatred. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/3 "2023-01-20T18:09:33Z")
Forget it Jake, it’s Florida. I’ve stopped trying to figure out why 90% of the most fucked up things in the country happen in that embarrassing protuberance. ---
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/4 "2023-01-20T18:11:09Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > that embarrassing protuberance The upside is, when the rest of the country gets fed up, the protuberance can just be fenced off. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/5 "2023-01-20T18:15:02Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > someone seems determined to turn the volume up to 11 on the quiet parts. There is no quiet part for the republican party. ---
**Author:** ![Strassia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e8c25b/32.png) [@Strassia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Strassia)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/6 "2023-01-20T18:39:17Z")
In fairness to Florida, a lot of the reason we hear about every drunk AH who goes into a gas station naked there is the very broad public record access laws in Florida. It is not as easy to peruse the police blotters in Yuba City California as it is Jacksonville. The crazy stuff that went down in Rio Linda, CA usually only spread by word of mouth, not on the filler pages of other state’s papers or on the countless drive time radio shows looking for something to mock. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/7 "2023-01-20T20:36:56Z")
> [@Cervaise](#): > > The upside is, when the rest of the country gets fed up, the protuberance can just be fenced off. Oh, not to worry, the entire f. place will be underwater before it comes to that. [I say that as someone who has fallen in love with the flora and fauna that it currently harbors and will mourn said disaster-in-waiting] Still cannot believe the fucker won in a landslide this past Nov. Recall this is a state that Obama won handily, twice. Now they elect soulless abominations like DeathSatan & Skeletor, and I cannot for the life of me figure out why. [Yeah propping up the corpse of Charlie Crist up against RD didn’t help] I am moving to Ohio this spring, and won’t regret my choice one bit, even if they aren’t much better. Note a plume of wildfire smoke currently is hovering overhead so I cannot open my windows on an otherwise beatific day. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/8 "2023-01-20T20:57:08Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Seriously - WTF is going on in Jacksonville and elsewhere in Florida? Someone (or several someones) has been projecting Neo-Nazi messages on the sides of buildings. As this is happening in Florida, I can’t see it as a surprise. Florida seems to be run by, and welcoming to intolerant, fearful bigots. Why not nazis, too? Seems a logical progression. ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/9 "2023-01-20T21:01:34Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > I am moving to Ohio this spring, and won’t regret my choice one bit, even if they aren’t much better. It would be awesome if you were moving from Miami to Miami. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2023, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/10 "2023-01-20T22:13:49Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > I am moving to Ohio this spring, and won’t regret my choice one bit, even if they aren’t much better. Note a plume of wildfire smoke currently is hovering overhead so I cannot open my windows on an otherwise beatific day. I have some family in Florida, and when they suggested we visit them some time, I blurted out “Florida is a cesspool.” I can’t even visit there right now. Fortunately my SIL just laughed and said, “But it’s _our_ cesspool.” I feel bad for saying that to Floridians. But it is a complete shitshow and I don’t want the state to have any of my tourism dollars until they clean their shit up. ---
**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/11 "2023-01-21T04:19:09Z")
The prejudicial crap in Florida is amazing - given the high population of Latinos, Jews of various types, Blacks, and the Fabulous drawn to the party environments. And while a lot of Florida [and the world’s coastal areas] will end up flooded, hopefully [heh] they will smarten up and simply pull the humans out of much of Florida [and similar areas] and let nature reassert itself and give the animal/critter population a habitat [eventually] to stabilize in. When the water refreezes into the poles and we get land back, hopefully we will keep in mind the need for stable habitats - the everglades is not just a swamp, it is the water purification and holding system for the entire state. While I would never ever in a thousand lifetimes live in Florida, I will occasionally vacation there - we have military friends who retired to the area, and my uncle and his family moved there with my grandparents when my Grandfather retired [well, a winter home, he kept his summer house in western NY and the one in Canada] so for short times it is OK - just not the theme parks, neither of us is into crowds. ---
**Author:** ![JaneDoe42](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/janedoe42/32/14104_2.png) [@JaneDoe42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaneDoe42)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/12 "2023-01-21T06:34:18Z")
> [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](#): > > I’ve stopped trying to figure out why 90% of the most fucked up things in the country happen in that embarrassing protuberance. Now that is so incorrect I can’t even figure out where to start. Hmmmm. Kari Lake. Cyber Ninjas, testing ground for machines that only took one single drop of blood to properly diagnosis cancer. ---
**Author:** ![Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmer_j.fudd/32/1211_2.png) [@Elmer\_J.Fudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elmer_J.Fudd)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 8:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/13 "2023-01-21T08:01:22Z")
I made no comment about the percentage of good things. I’m sure some of the trains even run on time. ---
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/14 "2023-01-21T08:34:16Z")
> [@Atamasama](#): > > It would be awesome if you were moving from Miami to Miami. Arizona has a Miami, too, but a reputation not much different than Ohio’s. ---
**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/15 "2023-01-21T13:10:03Z")
[The perplexing appeal of Florida](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-perplexing-appeal-of-florida/972021). ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/16 "2023-01-21T13:26:44Z")
I have family in Missouri and feel the same way. “You want me to come visit? Tell your state to clean up it’s act!” ---
**Author:** ![Spiderman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiderman/32/230_2.png) [@Spiderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiderman)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/17 "2023-01-21T15:04:48Z")
> [@John\_DiFool](#): > > I am moving to Ohio this spring, and won’t regret my choice one bit With just one extra pen stroke, Ohio becomes, “Oh no”!..just ask around at [NASA](https://www.gannett-cdn.com/media/2015/11/17/MIGroup/Lansing/635833723144754102-Astronaut.JPG) ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/18 "2023-01-21T15:10:24Z")
For what it’s worth, [this ranking of hate crimes by state](https://www.statista.com/statistics/737930/number-of-hate-crimes-in-the-us-by-motivation/) puts Florida at 25th in the country, while states like California, New York, New Jersey and Massachusetts are in the top ten. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/19 "2023-01-21T17:14:19Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > Florida at 25th in the country Maybe they’re recruiting, like the Klan reportedly was in Indiana in November of 2016. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2023, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513/20 "2023-01-21T19:18:05Z")
In Florida the hate comes directly from the governor’s office. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-jacksonville-nazis/978513.md?page=2)