# I hate Scott Pilgrim vs. The World **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 8, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465 "2010-12-08T20:22:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/61 "2010-12-10T15:58:17Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > There’s also the scene where Scott is talking to the foul-mouthed girl whose mouth keeps pixelating when she swears, and he asks her, “How do you do that with your mouth?” I think it may be the only time any character comments directly on the weirdness that’s going on. But what’s interesting is that, by commenting on it, he’s bringing it into the reality of the movie. The pixelization (and, by extension, other visual effects like the comic book-style text boxes) aren’t meta-humor. They aren’t jokes made by the film’s creator on the events in his movie, they’re actual things occurring within the fiction of the movie. There was also Ramona telling Scott “i forgot you guys didn’t have that in Canada” after telling him it wasn’t weird that he kept seeing her in his dreams because she was taking a short cut through his mind to deliver her packages. BTW Scott is 22 not 23, and i thought it was creepy he was dating Knives because of her obvious innocence, not her age. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 3:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/62 "2010-12-10T15:58:26Z")
> [@Tanbarkie](#): > > I think this may actually be the most “generational” aspect of “Scott Pilgrim.” Not the video game bits, or the indie music references, but the sheer meta-ness. Those of us who are in the age range of the characters in the movie grew up in the burgeoning internet era. Remixing, mashing up, or repurposing movies, comic books, TV shows, music, video games, and all other forms of media is as natural to this generation as breathing. The target audience of this movie is one that is utterly unfazed by the ridiculous hyper-reality and constant shout-outs to pop culture - it would never really even occur to them that as minor a thing as “universal rules” would matter in such a context. And the same is true for the characters. You kids with your post-post-modernism. Listen, you little whippersnapper, I’m 49 years old and I was doing metahumor back before you were born. And other people were doing it back before I was born. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/63 "2010-12-10T18:44:06Z")
> [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > You kids with your post-post-modernism. Listen, you little whippersnapper, I’m 49 years old and I was doing metahumor back before you were born. And other people were doing it back before I was born. Oh, I’m sure you did. But I guarantee you didn’t do it nearly as often or with the rapidity of today’s twenty-somethings. How could you? You didn’t have the internet, or iMovie, or GarageBand, or Photoshop. (Don’t get me wrong - I’m not trying to imply that today’s kids are “better” for this. Hell, nobody mocks us more about our post-post-modernism more than we do. But I think it’s undeniable that no period of American culture was quite so pastiche-happy as today’s, and that has a lot to do with the fact that you can make mashups in your bedroom with free software now.) ---
**Author:** ![gregorio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/fbc32d/32.png) [@gregorio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gregorio)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/64 "2010-12-10T19:13:29Z")
> [@Tanbarkie](#): > > But I think it’s undeniable that no period of American culture was quite so pastiche-happy as today’s, and that has a lot to do with the fact that you can make mashups in your bedroom with free software now.) Said while discussing a movie filmed in Toronto set in Toronto. As someone said above; “Hey, Toonies!” But I get your point. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/65 "2010-12-10T19:17:13Z")
> [@Tanbarkie](#): > > Oh, I’m sure you did. But I guarantee you didn’t do it nearly as often or with the rapidity of today’s twenty-somethings. How could you? You didn’t have the internet, or iMovie, or GarageBand, or Photoshop. We used twigs and coconuts. Seriously, back in the 80’s my friends and I used to have entire conversations consisting entirely of movie and song quotes. And we laughed about the fact that we were doing it. ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [December 10, 2010, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/66 "2010-12-10T19:59:02Z")
> [@The\_Hamster\_King](#): > > We used twigs and coconuts. > > Seriously, back in the 80’s my friends and I used to have entire conversations consisting entirely of movie and song quotes. And we laughed about the fact that we were doing it. Kids back in the '60s were doing that too. What they weren’t doing was consuming an entire Internet’s worth of conversations consisting of repurposed pop culture miscellany. It’s the difference between a hilarious inside joke with four of your friends and making (or being part of the audience for) a viral video that’s been seen by 200 million people. ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/67 "2010-12-11T00:40:01Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > There was also Ramona telling Scott “i forgot you guys didn’t have that in Canada” after telling him it wasn’t weird that he kept seeing her in his dreams… Actually, she’s referring to her own use of the word “miles.” ---
**Author:** ![bagga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@bagga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bagga)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/68 "2010-12-11T00:46:52Z")
> [@Tanbarkie](#): > > It’s the difference between a hilarious inside joke with four of your friends and making (or being part of the audience for) a viral video that’s been seen by 200 million people. Madam, we’ve already established that it’s an inside joke, now we’re just haggling over the size of the group. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/69 "2010-12-11T02:26:04Z")
> [@RickJay](#): > > Actually, she’s referring to her own use of the word “miles.” Are you sure about that? I don’t recall the precise exchange in the movie, but in the comic, it’s clear that she’s talking about subspace highways. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/70 "2010-12-11T02:48:31Z")
Yeah her exact words are “I’ve been using this subspace highway that goes through your brain, i forgot you guys don’t have that in Canada”. ---
**Author:** ![ToeJam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dfb087/32.png) [@ToeJam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ToeJam)\ **Post date:** [December 11, 2010, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/71 "2010-12-11T03:46:08Z")
> [@dumbroad](#): > > Maybe there will be a second one… This used to be @radiomaru (Bryan Lee O’Malley)'s most re-tweeted comment it seemed after the movie came out. People who constantly seemed to asked Edgar Wright (more so) about when there would be a sequel to the movie, not realizing BLO’M was the creator/writer of the whole thing. ---
**Author:** ![Kamino\_Neko](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kamino_neko/32/34_2.png) [@Kamino\_Neko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kamino_Neko)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/72 "2010-12-12T17:41:36Z")
> [@ToeJam](#): > > People who constantly seemed to asked Edgar Wright (more so) about when there would be a sequel to the movie, not realizing BLO’M was the creator/writer of the whole thing. 😕 Why would you ask the guy who created the _comic book_ about _movie_ sequels, rather than the guy who actually made the _movie_? ---
**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 7:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/73 "2010-12-12T19:28:21Z")
It’s at least twenty minutes too long, and yet there are lots of deleted scenes that didn’t make the cut. Nothing in this all right film warranted more than a 90 minute running time. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [December 12, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/74 "2010-12-12T21:06:12Z")
> [@Tengu](#): > > 😕 > > Why would you ask the guy who created the _comic book_ about _movie_ sequels, rather than the guy who actually made the _movie_? Well, the movie already covered the entire run of the comic book. So if there’s going to be a sequel, either O’Malley is going to have to draw new comics, or Wright is going to have to start making shit up on his own. ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [December 13, 2010, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/75 "2010-12-13T21:50:32Z")
I have to disagree with the general consensus here. Michael Cera was very good (as was the movie). The only flaw in the movie is that Scott dating Knives comes across as extremely creepy (which is probably what biased the response to Cera). More creepy than I think was intended by the author. I ignored it as much as possible because the rest was great, and I don’t think it was Cera’s fault. I haven’t read the comic, but I suspect it isn’t as creepy in comic form. It could also be cultural differences with that particular Canadian subculture, I don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/76 "2010-12-14T03:38:43Z")
I loved the movie. But then I tend to like Michael Cera characters even if they are all the same. ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/77 "2010-12-14T03:40:45Z")
I just watched it the other night and absolutely loved it. I think it’s my second favorite movie of the year, after Inception. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 3:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/78 "2010-12-14T15:42:17Z")
> [@Carmady](#): > > I have to disagree with the general consensus here. Michael Cera was very good (as was the movie). > > The only flaw in the movie is that Scott dating Knives comes across as extremely creepy (which is probably what biased the response to Cera). More creepy than I think was intended by the author. I ignored it as much as possible because the rest was great, and I don’t think it was Cera’s fault. > > I haven’t read the comic, but I suspect it isn’t as creepy in comic form. It could also be cultural differences with that particular Canadian subculture, I don’t know. What makes it creepy is the difference in age of consent between the US and Canada. Granted they went out of their way to point out that the relationship had been completely innocent up to that point, but Scott is a sexually active guy in his 20s so things would have obviously progressed eventually. Basically what he was doing might have landed him in jail as a sex offender here. ---
**Author:** ![Paranoid\_Randroid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paranoid_randroid/32/18_2.png) [@Paranoid\_Randroid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paranoid_Randroid)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/79 "2010-12-14T16:58:58Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > What makes it creepy is the difference in age of consent between the US and Canada. Granted they went out of their way to point out that the relationship had been completely innocent up to that point, but Scott is a sexually active guy in his 20s so things would have obviously progressed eventually. Basically what he was doing might have landed him in jail as a sex offender here. Eh. The age of consent in all but a couple states appears to be 16 or 17, and besides, they didn’t just point out that the relationship had been heretofore innocent – they make it clear (at least in the graphic novel) that he wasn’t interested in her _at all_. No kisses, nada. It was just a pure and conflict-free thing for Scott to hide out in while attempting to ignore the adult world. (And he throws her to the curb as soon as he sees someone he’s _actually_ interested in.) ---
**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\ **Post date:** [December 14, 2010, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465/80 "2010-12-14T17:23:49Z")
> [@Paranoid\_Randroid](#): > > Eh. The age of consent in all but a couple states appears to be 16 or 17, and besides, they didn’t just point out that the relationship had been heretofore innocent – they make it clear (at least in the graphic novel) that he wasn’t interested in her _at all_. No kisses, nada. It was just a pure and conflict-free thing for Scott to hide out in while attempting to ignore the adult world. (And he throws her to the curb as soon as he sees someone he’s _actually_ interested in.) Exactly. It’s _douchey_, not creepy. And the story is, ultimately, the tale of how Scott Pilgrim learned how not to be a douche. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-scott-pilgrim-vs-the-world/563465.md?page=5)