# I hate Subway!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Tags:** food-cooking\
**Created:** [November 11, 2024, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083 "2024-11-11T16:30:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/141 "2024-11-21T20:40:04Z")

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> [@Tibby](#):
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> SteakUmms? Oh, honey, no, no, no.

I am not at all a snob for meats or anything but I just can’t do SteakUmms. I mean the kind you get frozen at the grocery store and heat up in the microwave (or in a pan on the stove, I’ve tried that too). They taste too fake to me.

I say this as a person fine with Spam (properly prepared) or cheese in a can. I have even bought frozen hamburgers and heated them up (bun and all) and enjoyed them. Something about SteakUmms just seems wrong to my palate.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/142 "2024-11-21T21:57:48Z")

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Ingredients: 100% beef. Not one other thing.

Now we can quibble on what part of the cow it is. Of course.

As I’m not likey to be in Philly or have I ever been, I have no comparison. That’s a _me_ problem. I understand.

Hey, I like the dang things.  
If they have been frozen properly and kept frozen they’re pretty good.

White bread, mayo. Yum!

ETA, what the heck is cheese in a can?

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**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/143 "2024-11-21T22:01:15Z")

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Cheese Whiz.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/144 "2024-11-21T22:01:52Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> ETA, what the heck is cheese in a can?

Cheez Whiz is the most famous, but I like Easy Cheese. Especially the bacon one.

[![](https://images.freshop.ncrcloud.com/00044000045548/aa2221797052bcd9d7e0e8d9fcb33889_large.png) ](https://images.freshop.ncrcloud.com/00044000045548/aa2221797052bcd9d7e0e8d9fcb33889_large.png)

And if you like SteakUmms, then more power to you. You can have my share.

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**Author:** ![LurkMeister](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/3da27b/32.png) [@LurkMeister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LurkMeister)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/145 "2024-11-21T22:21:04Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> > [@Tibby](#):
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> > SteakUmms? Oh, honey, no, no, no.
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> I am not at all a snob for meats or anything but I just can’t do SteakUmms. I mean the kind you get frozen at the grocery store and heat up in the microwave (or in a pan on the stove, I’ve tried that too). They taste too fake to me.
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> I say this as a person fine with Spam (properly prepared) or cheese in a can. I have even bought frozen hamburgers and heated them up (bun and all) and enjoyed them. Something about SteakUmms just seems wrong to my palate.

Ditto here (including the comments about Spam and canned cheese). A number of years back I had a taste for a cheesesteak but no place to get one, so I bought a few sub tolls and a box of SteakUmms, along with the other fixings. I cooked up the SteakUmms in a pan along with onions and peppers, put them on a roll and added the cheese.

I was barely able to choke it down. I’ve never had pan-fried cardboard, but that’s pretty much how I imagined it would taste. I don’t remember how I disposed of the rest of the SteakUmms.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/146 "2024-11-21T22:45:11Z")

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Oh. I forgot about that.

I was thinking more like a cheese dip kinda thing.

I was hoping it wasn’t a round loaf of squished in cheddar.

Oh, god. There probably is canned cheddar.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/147 "2024-11-21T23:16:28Z")

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I’m going to be in the minority here but I rather like the sandwiches I have got from the two local Subways. Especially the meatball subs.

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**Author:** ![SuntanLotion](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/suntanlotion/32/16165_2.png) [@SuntanLotion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SuntanLotion)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2024, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/148 "2024-11-21T23:47:16Z")

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I do like the meatball subs.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/149 "2024-11-22T00:37:42Z")

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> [@LurkMeister](#):
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> I was barely able to choke it down. I’ve never had pan-fried cardboard, but that’s pretty much how I imagined it would taste. I don’t remember how I disposed of the rest of the SteakUmms.

Yeah, that’s what I remember. They were grey bits of meat without really any flavor.

There may be a way to manipulate them to taste okay, maybe by thawing out the meat and marinating it? But I’ve never had a need or desire to put that kind of effort into it.

As for Subway, it’s not terrible, it’s just okay. If I want a sandwich, there is one handy and don’t have another option, I definitely won’t choose to starve over going to it. I used to eat at one regularly, and while the quality might have dropped off a bit over the years, it’s fine. It’s far from the worst place I’ve ever eaten at.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/150 "2024-11-22T01:13:57Z")

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Oh, ya’ll got freezer burnt Steak-umms, I’ll bet.

The ones I get are always dark red.  
You dont have to do anything but throw them in non-stick skillet. Add a bit of olive oil if you must.  
(Not in the micro.)  
They curl up like bacon. You flip them once. Done.

I’m not trying convince you of anything. You like what you like.  
I hate liver. No matter what you say, I’m not eating it. Ever.

It’s just my experience with Steakumms.

Subway is okay. Maybe a bit better than ok. I’m definitely gonna try that Canadian club, at least once.

I just looked on the APP. Buy one, get one. Hell, yeah!  
Can add the chips and drink for a bit more.

It will be mine Friday. And Ivy can have the free one. 😁

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/151 "2024-11-22T01:17:04Z")

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> [@Beckdawrek](#):
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> I hate liver. No matter what you say, I’m not eating it. Ever.

I do too unless it’s liverwurst or Braunschweiger, in which case the liver taste is mitigated by other stuff that actually somehow makes it delicious.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/152 "2024-11-22T01:34:49Z")

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> [@Treppenwitz](#):
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> Yeah, there are Subways all over the place round here (south of London) but I would never dream of going in one. We have independent (or small local chain) sandwich shops, bakers, delis all over the place too, and in the main they are extremely good - and as cheap as, or cheaper than, Subway. It baffles me that Subway exists.

As noted, some places _don’t_ have lots of other options, or at least not options that beat Subway on some metric (like accessibility, or speed, or price).

But also, I think a lot of the popularity of places like Subway and McDonald’s is because of something akin to the Availability Heuristic.

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> The availability heuristic is a cognitive bias in which you make a decision based on an example, information, or recent experience that is that readily available to you, even though it may not be the best example to inform your decision (Tversky & Kahneman, 1973).

A person’s decision to eat at Subway may not be the fruit of careful consideration comparing all the options; it may just be that Subway is the first thing that popped into that person’s mind. Because companies like Subway spend a lot of money on advertising and branding and promotion to ensure that they _are_ the first thing that pops into people’s minds.

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**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/153 "2024-11-22T01:38:44Z")

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I love liver. I live for liver. I made it just a couple days ago. Liver smothered in onions and mushrooms, with a side of peas, mashed potatoes & gravy. Delish! Excellent source of iron and B12 too.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/154 "2024-11-22T01:40:17Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I do like the meatball subs.

I would’ve preferred they stuck with the all-beef meatballs they had for decades instead of the beef/pork ones they switched to last year. They’re still good, just a matter of personal preference.

I just picked up a tuna sub from Subway, though, and it is delicious.

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**Author:** ![Beckdawrek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beckdawrek/32/3647_2.png) [@Beckdawrek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Beckdawrek)\
**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/155 "2024-11-22T01:44:04Z")

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Are you one of my Siamese cats?

They love liver too. Not with onions.

I make them chicken livers for treats.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/156 "2024-11-22T01:48:29Z")

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Chopped chicken liver sandwich on rye—another favorite!

Meow. 😺

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/157 "2024-11-22T01:50:13Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> I just picked up a tuna sub from Subway, though, and it is delicious.

I always got mine with pickles.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/158 "2024-11-22T01:58:33Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> I always got mine with pickles

Herb and cheese bread (not toasted, I like my tuna cold), pepperjack, tomato, onion, pickle, jalapeno, pepperoncini, yellow mustard, oregano, and black pepper.

I usually avoid lettuce on my Subway sandwiches because it just adds bulk unless you smother it in oil and vinegar.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/159 "2024-11-22T02:11:52Z")

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> [@Smapti](#):
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> > [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> > I always got mine with pickles
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> Herb and cheese bread (not toasted, I like my tuna cold), pepperjack, tomato, onion, pickle, jalapeno, pepperoncini, yellow mustard, oregano, and black pepper.

That sounds _really_ good.

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**Post date:** [November 22, 2024, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-subway/1010083/160 "2024-11-22T02:12:41Z")

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It does. I leave out the jalapeno and mustard though.

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