# I Hate Tampa! I #$\*&ing HATE IT!

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 26, 2007, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551 "2007-03-26T15:14:58Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 12\
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**Author:** ![RTA](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b4bc9f/32.png) [@RTA](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTA)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/61 "2007-03-27T13:29:32Z")

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> I even hear that office buildings are sitting vacant because employers would rather set up shop in St. Pete, where people can actually live (_gasp_) near their job and not waste time in the mornings sitting on 275.

Tell me more about your job interview, again? … Where in St. Petersburg was that?

Whenever St. Pete people complain, and they do - exactly like this, _ad infinitum_, I am reminded how nobody cares.

Yes it would be easy to point and laugh and say look, here’s another St. Petie who wants people to tell him he lives in a big, important city. But seriously, nobody cares. Here is the truth: it’s a big metropolitan area made up of many cities, Tampa and St. Pete being among them. I know my way around them all (though I fear Pinellas traffic the most).

Good on you for living in that very small, and what has in my life become obscenely gentrified, area of St. Petersburg. Hopefully you can find a job to financially support the flamboyantly cosmopolitan lifestyle of your choice, otherwise you’ll be just another broke-ass yuppie.

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/62 "2007-03-27T13:54:26Z")

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[QUOTE=RedRosesForMe]  
The Mutiny, however, was an awesome team name. Too bad no one likes soccer in America.  
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Yeah, those 30,000 plus people at Raymond James Stadium with me on Sunday are just masochists. None of us really cares for the sport.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/63 "2007-03-27T14:42:21Z")

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[QUOTE=ShibbOleth]  
Yeah, those 30,000 plus people at Raymond James Stadium with me on Sunday are just masochists. None of us really cares for the sport.  
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Perhaps they were all lost and had been driving around Tampa all day and just stopped there to rest? 😛

Sure, Red, I want you to stick around …

well, until you piss me off. 😉

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**Author:** ![Dr.Rieux](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@Dr.Rieux](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Rieux)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/64 "2007-03-27T15:17:58Z")

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[QUOTE=FatBaldGuy]  
What about the New England Patriots?  
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And what about \*\*East \*\* Carolina?

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**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/65 "2007-03-27T17:07:03Z")

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For the purposes of this rant, I, unfortunately, am married to a 3rd generation Tampa Native.

Fucking cesspool of a city. Culturally dead. Has the most MORONIC snobbishness I’ve ever seen. No, Really. There are people who proudly have never been north of Kennedy. They live in South Tampa, which they are even trying to mentally separate from actual Tampa. They can base their entire opinion of you by asking “Oh, where do you live?” If it is north of Kennedy, you are scum. It is surreal. My mother moved here, I tried to explain it to her, she didn’t get it. Then she was having a conversation with a woman who just loved Marshall’s stores. She sat there and lamented how there wasn’t one in Tampa. My mother said, sure there is, on N. Dale Mabry. The woman tittered and said “oh, I never go north of Kennedy.” Not even for a store she loves.

My first night in this town, after driving around trying to find evidence of a large city, I called my grandmother, who lived on Anna Maria Island for years and is familiar with the area and was told “Tampa never was a pretty city.”

Shitty little snobby cesspool. I’ve finally convinced my husband to move, although admittedly, not that far away. I’d love for him to experience a real, honest to god city.

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**Author:** ![RedRosesForMe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@RedRosesForMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedRosesForMe)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/66 "2007-03-27T20:11:13Z")

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[QUOTE=ShibbOleth]  
Yeah, those 30,000 plus people at Raymond James Stadium with me on Sunday are just masochists. None of us really cares for the sport.  
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OMG I wanted to go sooooo bad, but like I said, I’m unemployed.

I just meant that not enough people care for us to be able to have our own team.

Was it the bestest thing ever? I’m so jealous.

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**Author:** ![RedRosesForMe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/91b2a8/32.png) [@RedRosesForMe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedRosesForMe)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/67 "2007-03-27T20:18:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Auntbeast]  
For the purposes of this rant, I, unfortunately, am married to a 3rd generation Tampa Native.

Fucking cesspool of a city. Culturally dead. Has the most MORONIC snobbishness I’ve ever seen. No, Really. There are people who proudly have never been north of Kennedy. They live in South Tampa, which they are even trying to mentally separate from actual Tampa. They can base their entire opinion of you by asking “Oh, where do you live?” If it is north of Kennedy, you are scum. It is surreal. My mother moved here, I tried to explain it to her, she didn’t get it. Then she was having a conversation with a woman who just loved Marshall’s stores. She sat there and lamented how there wasn’t one in Tampa. My mother said, sure there is, on N. Dale Mabry. The woman tittered and said “oh, I never go north of Kennedy.” Not even for a store she loves.

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That is exactly what my (_Tampa_) friends like to joke about…

[pretentious voice]  
“Meh… I _never_ go north of Kennedy… Do they even _have_ Starbucks in that hell hole? Even if they do, I wouldn’t bother- don’t think my _Saab_ could take it, you know. Just might refuse to run if I attempted to cross Kennedy Blvd.”  
[/pretentious voice]

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**Author:** ![Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Bambi\_Hassenpfeffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bambi_Hassenpfeffer)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2007, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/68 "2007-03-27T20:21:06Z")

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[QUOTE=Auntbeast]  
For the purposes of this rant, I, unfortunately, am married to a 3rd generation Tampa Native.

Fucking cesspool of a city. Culturally dead. Has the most MORONIC snobbishness I’ve ever seen. No, Really. There are people who proudly have never been north of Kennedy. They live in South Tampa, which they are even trying to mentally separate from actual Tampa. They can base their entire opinion of you by asking “Oh, where do you live?” If it is north of Kennedy, you are scum. It is surreal. My mother moved here, I tried to explain it to her, she didn’t get it. Then she was having a conversation with a woman who just loved Marshall’s stores. She sat there and lamented how there wasn’t one in Tampa. My mother said, sure there is, on N. Dale Mabry. The woman tittered and said “oh, I never go north of Kennedy.” Not even for a store she loves.  
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Yeah, and what the SoHos think of us Pinellas people is even worse. Buncha idiots.

Also, **RedRoses** , you can’t really get on Tampa for their numbering scheme – many of the cities in Pinellas are as bad or worse. Especially since we all run together over here. 24 municipalities, and at least 15 different addressing schemes, sometimes in the same city. Largo is centered on the intersection of East / West Bay Dr and Missouri Ave / Seminole Blvd and is divided into NE, NW, SE, and SW. St Pete is centered on Central and 1st St, and Pinellas Park, South Pasadena, and Gulfport carry these numbers on into their schemes. Clearwater is based on Cleveland and Ft Harrison (where the Scientologists are). Then you got Dunedin, Oldsmar, Palm Harbor, Tarpon Springs, Seminole, all the little beach towns, and some I’m sure I’m forgetting. Many of these have different numbering schemes and some have more than one.

I don’t much care for Tampa either (except Ybor), but there are a whole bunch of reasons other than the street grid.

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**Author:** ![Lionne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Lionne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lionne)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/69 "2007-03-28T00:23:20Z")

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Scientologists aside, Clearwater is my favourite. St. Pete below me, Tampa to my right and the beautiful Gulf to my left. I haven’t found anything too appealing north.

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**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/70 "2007-03-28T01:45:01Z")

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[QUOTE=RedRosesForMe]  
The Mutiny, however, was an awesome team name. Too bad no one likes soccer in America.  
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_Tampa Bay Rowdies_ was a much better name (and team).

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**Author:** ![arseNal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecae2f/32.png) [@arseNal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/arseNal)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/71 "2007-03-28T04:08:03Z")

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[QUOTE=friedo]  
[Queens](http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=astoria,+ny&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=16&ll=40.768078,-73.928204&spn=0.010775,0.027122&om=1). Just try telling a guy you live “near 30th.” 30th _what?_ There’s like six of 'em in one place!  
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Oh, like [Brooklyn](http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=williamsburg,+ny&sll=40.713761,-73.961678&sspn=0.01171,0.042486&layer=&ie=UTF8&z=15&ll=40.713988,-73.953438&spn=0.01171,0.042486&om=1&iwloc=addr) is any better, where in Williamsburg, S. 8th street has nothing whatsoever to do with N. 8th. _Most_ of queens has logically numbered streets. Just sometimes, they do need to squeeze in 30th road betwen 30th street and 30th terrace :o (hey, at least they’re all right next to each other).

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**Author:** ![ShibbOleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@ShibbOleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ShibbOleth)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2007, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-tampa-i-ing-hate-it/397551/72 "2007-03-28T11:57:43Z")

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[QUOTE=RedRosesForMe]  
OMG I wanted to go sooooo bad, but like I said, I’m unemployed.

I just meant that not enough people care for us to be able to have our own team.

Was it the bestest thing ever? I’m so jealous.  
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I’d have taken you as my guest if I’d known. Seriously. It was a great time. There was a party the night before at MacDinton’s (in South Tampa) with a lot of jersey’s auctioned off for the Kolb family. We raised about $7k. Rob Stone was the auctioneer, with Eric Wynalda and Scott Garlick also there for support. A lot of fun.

Please let me know next time.

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