# I hate the way I look.

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [December 10, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576 "2008-12-10T17:24:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/1 "2008-12-10T17:24:05Z")

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So after much cuckolding from assorted people in my life about how I am loser and can’t get a job, and need to shave, and THEN I’d look nice and get one, I finally gave in and shaved off my beard today.

I hate the way I look. I have no distinguishing features. I am neither ruggedly masculine, nor feminine, nor geeky looking. I look like every other unremarkable young man out there today. I have boring brown eyes, boring brown hair. I don’t feel like myself, I don’t feel masculine, I don’t feel sexy. I don’t feel confident. I don’t feel like my exterior reflects the creative, energetic, optimistic man inside of me that I can’t seem to locate now. I feel like Samson after his hair got cut off.

I hate my situation, and I’m fucking trying. Now I’m a sell out just like the rest of white-fucking bread America.  
Fuck.

Fuck greedy bankers who screwed the pooch so hard I, and hundreds of thousands like me can’t get employment.

Fuck the goddamn Illegals living 14 to a house here, working for peanuts and taking the few jobs that ARE available.

Fuck them again for turning this area so latino that you must be bi-lingual or a native speaker to find employment near the house.

Fuck the employers who use their illegal asses to save a few dollars.

Fuck online job applications.

Fuck the media for perpetuating the image of the “clean shaven man”.

Fuck family members who can’t just be supportive. I didn’t ask any of them for money, what the fuck difference does it make to them?

Fuck My soon to be brother-in-law for putting pressure on **Nashiitashii** to put the screws to me. Now SHE feels bad because I feel bad.

Fuck HR depts that are more concerned with emasculating men,and some corporate image than hiring competant people.

Fuck genetics for making me look boring.

Fuck the media again for perpetuating a certain look for handsome men.

Fuck me for giving in.

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/2 "2008-12-10T17:30:04Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> So after much **cuckolding** from assorted people in my life about how I am loser and can’t get a job, and need to shave, and THEN I’d look nice and get one, I finally gave in and shaved off my beard today.

Cuckolding? Hmmm. I think you might want to consult a dictionary, you newly-beardless ugly loser. 😃

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**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/3 "2008-12-10T17:33:21Z")

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> [@Uvula\_Donor](#):
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> Cuckolding? Hmmm. I think you might want to consult a dictionary, you newly-beardless ugly loser. 😃

Well fuck.

I KNOW I’ve seen that term used in the manner I employed it.

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/4 "2008-12-10T17:38:20Z")

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You’ll grow into your look. It just looks odd to you right now because you haven’t seen yourself that way in a long time.

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/5 "2008-12-10T17:41:47Z")

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Fuck your sudden lack of an appropriate sig!

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**Author:** ![Uvula\_Donor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/e19adc/32.png) [@Uvula\_Donor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Uvula_Donor)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/6 "2008-12-10T17:42:39Z")

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Maybe you meant “henpecking.”

Seriously, though, I don’t get the whole “clean shaven” thing. I’ve worn a beard since high school. It’s never been an impediment to finding a job. I never let it get all wild and “ZZ Toppy” though.

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**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/7 "2008-12-10T17:47:09Z")

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> [@Uvula\_Donor](#):
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> Seriously, though, I don’t get the whole “clean shaven” thing. I’ve worn a beard since high school. It’s never been an impediment to finding a job. I never let it get all wild and “ZZ Toppy” though.

Me neither. Maybe it’s because I work in IT, but nobody has a problem with my ponytail or beard. But I also take great pains to keep it neat and tidy.

I know it’s not much of a consolation to you right now, seeing as you’re jobless, but if you like having a beard and a place won’t hire you because you have one, you probably wouldn’t want to work there anyway.

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/8 "2008-12-10T17:52:11Z")

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To bad you caved. Today’s the day to begin a new one.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Credible](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a8b319/32.png) [@Justin\_Credible](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Credible)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/9 "2008-12-10T17:55:18Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> Well fuck.
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> I KNOW I’ve seen that term used in the manner I employed it.

Did you mean cajoling?

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/10 "2008-12-10T17:59:22Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> So after much cuckolding

[Inigo Montoya]I do not think that word means what you think it means [IM]

Good luck on the jobhunt.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/11 "2008-12-10T18:00:52Z")

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Well don’t get all twitchy. It’ll grow back.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/12 "2008-12-10T18:19:05Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> So after much cuckolding from assorted people in my life about how I am loser and can’t get a job, and need to shave, and THEN I’d look nice and get one, I finally gave in and shaved off my beard today.

When I read this, my first reaction was, “His girlfriend cheated on him because he had a beard?? And I thought _my_ exes were bad.”

I’m sorry to hear about all the bad shit going on right now, but on the bright side: The beard will return.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/13 "2008-12-10T18:19:56Z")

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Well, we’re going to need pictures to tell you how funny you look. Wait, that didn’t come out right…

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/14 "2008-12-10T18:23:54Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> Well fuck.
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> I KNOW I’ve seen that term used in the manner I employed it.

I have made that mistake also. I thougt it was similar to henpecked.

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**Author:** ![beowulff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/beowulff/32/542_2.png) [@beowulff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beowulff)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/15 "2008-12-10T18:58:35Z")

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You ever think that the problem may not be everyone else?

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**Author:** ![shy\_guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a6a055/32.png) [@shy\_guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shy_guy)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/16 "2008-12-10T19:15:39Z")

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When I shaved off my beard for Halloween, I went through a brief “Yikes!” period. It’s normal, and I got over it after a few days.

And you’re probably not half as bad looking as you think you are.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/17 "2008-12-10T19:56:21Z")

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This thread is useless without pics.

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**Author:** ![Caffeine.addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Caffeine.addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caffeine.addict)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/18 "2008-12-10T20:40:02Z")

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It’s just hair. If getting rid of it makes it easier to find a job, do it. Once you have a job, grow it back on your next vacation. I do this all the time. The last time, I grew a beard on vacation and over the next year I shaved a beard down to a goatee, shaved the goatee down to an incredibly skeevy mustache, and then went clean shaven. No big deal.

Whats kind of funny is that I was in Court today, and a few of the attorneys had facial hair, so the impetus to be clean shaven isn’t insurmountable. But its what is fashionable and expected, so deal with it.

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> I don’t feel like my exterior reflects the creative, energetic, optimistic man inside of me that I can’t seem to locate now.

I don’t think that a beard reflects creativity, energy, and optimism. I think it reflects that you don’t shave.

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> Fuck HR depts that are more concerned with emasculating men,and some corporate image than hiring competant people.

Your [manhood](http://dictionary.die.net/emasculating) was in your beard? Now that you shaved, you are less of a man? You can’t get it up anymore? Look, you are looking for a job, so you play the game for the time being. Once you are hired, then you can start growing a beard or something similar.

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> Fuck the goddamn Illegals living 14 to a house here, working for peanuts and taking the few jobs that ARE available.
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> Fuck them again for turning this area so latino that you must be bi-lingual or a native speaker to find employment near the house.

What kind of jobs are you looking at in which your primary competition is an unskilled illegal immigrant who doesn’t speak English, but which value a clean shaven appearance and have Human Resources Departments?

For what its worth, I grew up speaking Spanish, and really haven’t found it to be much of a competitive advantage in find employment. Probably because tons of other people speak Spanish, and you can always find someone who does or who can interpret.

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> I have made that mistake also. I thought it was similar to henpecked.

Only in that when you are being cuckolded, your hen tends to be on another pecker.

Look, **Acid Lamp** , being unemployed is a miserable experience. Whenever, you transition from bearded to clean shaven, it always feels a bit odd, but you get used to it. Confidence comes from within. I’m clean shaved, wearing a suit, with a pink shirt, and a matching red and pink striped tie, and you know what, I don’t feel any less manly, then if I had a full beard, and was wearing flannel and jeans.

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**Author:** ![Gus\_Gusterson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/85f322/32.png) [@Gus\_Gusterson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gus_Gusterson)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/19 "2008-12-10T21:03:35Z")

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> [@Acid\_Lamp](#):
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> So after much cuckolding from assorted people in my life about how I am loser and can’t get a job, and need to shave, and THEN I’d look nice and get one, I finally gave in and shaved off my beard today.
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> I hate the way I look. I have no distinguishing features. I am neither ruggedly masculine, nor feminine, nor geeky looking. I look like every other unremarkable young man out there today. I have boring brown eyes, boring brown hair. I don’t feel like myself, I don’t feel masculine, I don’t feel sexy. I don’t feel confident. I don’t feel like my exterior reflects the creative, energetic, optimistic man inside of me that I can’t seem to locate now. I feel like Samson after his hair got cut off.
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> I hate my situation, and I’m fucking trying. Now I’m a sell out just like the rest of white-fucking bread America.

You weren’t all that remarkable _with_ the beard. You were an unremarkable young man with boring brown eyes, boring brown hair, and a poorly groomed beard.

I think you just like to complain. You’d probably complain if you had a 10-inch cock.

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**Author:** ![cowgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8c91f0/32.png) [@cowgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cowgirl)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2008, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-way-i-look/476576/20 "2008-12-10T21:19:02Z")

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Some men really do look better with facial hair. Most don’t. Please give yourself and your girlfriend a chance to get used to it before either of you decides you don’t like it as much - you can always grow it back then. I’ve had boyfriends who experimented with facial hair over the years, and I (almost) always manage to love and be attracted to the face in whatever state of fuzziness it was in.

A colleague of mine just shaved off his massive Geraldo Rivera mustache and, while it was initially quite startling (my reaction was the same as it always is when people get rid of their mustaches - “Wow, your upper lip is really thin!” - I think that’s why they’re usually grown in the first place), I have gotten used to it and now think he looks a whole lot better. And he only shaved it a week ago.

Re careers - note how many men in positions of power (politicians, top execs, etc) have facial hair: very very few. The only people I know with facial hair (with one exception, who is a high-ranking civil servant) are firemen, cops, paramedics and army folk. And a farmer.

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