# I Hate the Word "Veggies" **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986 "2011-04-02T23:42:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/221 "2011-04-13T22:27:31Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Honestly, I’m a big old word crank and I hate most abbreviations. My mother sayd “docs” instead of “doctors” and it makes me want to scream. Do they prescribe meds for her? ---
**Author:** ![xoferew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e9a140/32.png) [@xoferew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xoferew)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/222 "2011-04-14T00:29:18Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Still, it’s not clear that how essential this is to language acquisition, as we’re only now getting large amounts of data to know.I’m not sure, but I imagine that playing with language for its own sake engages perhaps even higher levels of cognition, and so I’d say it’s extremely important, but I don’t think it’s a necessary component of normal language acquisition itself. I promise, last time I’ll say this because I know no one cares but me, but I’m not talking about language acquisition (which we pick up naturally) but learning stuff that will help with READING which most kids need to be taught. Okay, I’m done. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/223 "2011-04-14T01:17:01Z")
Yo dawg I herd u don’t liek veggies so I put some grats in your veggies so you can get kudos while you get menudo. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/224 "2011-04-14T01:20:40Z")
[Boot to the head] ---
**Author:** ![anya\_marie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ebca7d/32.png) [@anya\_marie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anya_marie)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/225 "2011-04-14T10:34:59Z")
I never hated the word logistics until i started seeing that commercial played during every commercial break when i watch news. ---
**Author:** ![glilly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/48db29/32.png) [@glilly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/glilly)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/226 "2011-04-14T18:05:36Z")
> [@anya\_marie](#): > > I never hated the word logistics until i started seeing that commercial played during every commercial break when i watch news. It could be worse. People could call it “loggies”. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/227 "2011-04-15T18:27:08Z")
So where do I put this, in this thread or the Subway thread? I go to Subway for lunch and order a sub. I tell the woman I want a 6-inch wheat with spinach, tomatoes, cucumber, onion, pickles, olives, and a little dressing. She makes the sandwich, looks me in the eye and asks me **"Is this a veggie sub?"** She has made this sandwich from beginning to end. She hasn’t cut the bread and passed it down for somebody else to put the fillings in it. Unless I somehow leapt over the counter, put some ham on it while she wasn’t looking, and leapt back over again, it’s a **vegetable** sub. I can’t answer yes, because \*there is no such fucking word as “veggie.” \*I can’t say “You made the damn thing; do you remember putting any bacon on it?” So I say “Just vegetables.” I know she makes sandwiches six hours a day and she doesn’t care what’s on mine. I probably would zone out too if I had to make sandwiches six hours a day. But the sandwich was still there in her hands! She could see what was on it! ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/228 "2011-04-15T19:36:41Z")
The one is hate is “dokey”(sp?). You know when someone is workng on thing and asks you for tht “dokey” and you secretly seethe and think you should say “Just as soon as you call it by its right name!” ---
**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/229 "2011-04-15T20:06:03Z")
> [@saoirse](#): > > The one is hate is “dokey”(sp?). You know when someone is workng on thing and asks you for tht “dokey” and you secretly seethe and think you should say “Just as soon as you call it by its right name!” I don’t think I’ve ever heard this term. What’s a “dokey”? Do you mean “doohickie”? ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/230 "2011-04-15T20:54:49Z")
Okie-dokey! ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/231 "2011-04-15T22:06:04Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > I go to Subway for lunch and order a sub. I tell the woman I want a 6-inch wheat with spinach, tomatoes, cucumber, onion, pickles, olives, and a little dressing. She makes the sandwich, looks me in the eye and asks me > > **“Is this a veggie sub?”** I’ve never heard of anyone going into a Subway and ordering a sandwich by giving a list of ingredients like that. (I also didn’t know they had spinach.) Their name for a sandwich that is all fixings and no meat is the Veggie Delight. The counter person’s question was probably meant to establish that, since you didn’t order a specific item from the menu, she was going to charge you the price for a six-inch Veggie Delight. ---
**Author:** ![Sierra\_Indigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f0a364/32.png) [@Sierra\_Indigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sierra_Indigo)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2011, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/232 "2011-04-15T22:46:55Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > She has made this sandwich from beginning to end. She hasn’t cut the bread and passed it down for somebody else to put the fillings in it. Unless I somehow leapt over the counter, put some ham on it while she wasn’t looking, and leapt back over again, it’s a **vegetable** sub. I can’t answer yes, because \*there is no such fucking word as “veggie.” \* [Hey look at this, “veggie” is a fucking word](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/veggie). ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/233 "2011-04-16T00:21:56Z")
Is a “fucking word” like a [Killing word](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC97k3CV3u4)? 'Cause that would be awesome. ---
**Author:** ![saoirse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@saoirse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/saoirse)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/234 "2011-04-16T14:02:18Z")
> [@Infovore](#): > > I don’t think I’ve ever heard this term. What’s a “dokey”? Do you mean “doohickie”? No, that was supposed to be funny. And if you’d had two hours of sleep out of 36, it would have been. ---
**Author:** ![Sigmagirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c89c15/32.png) [@Sigmagirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigmagirl)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/235 "2011-04-16T14:11:48Z")
> [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](#): > > I’ve never heard of anyone going into a Subway and ordering a sandwich by giving a list of ingredients like that. (I also didn’t know they had spinach.) Their name for a sandwich that is all fixings and no meat is the Veggie Delight. The counter person’s question was probably meant to establish that, since you didn’t order a specific item from the menu, she was going to charge you the price for a six-inch Veggie Delight. I ordered one of those once and was given some kind of patty made of compressed vegetable matter. That was a while back and things may have changed, but I never want that to happen again. :eek: The employee asks me what I want on my sandwich, and I ask for each topping as she’s making the sandwich. I don’t want any peppers, so saying “all fixings” might be dangerous. I have had to say “No peppers” more than once as she’s reaching in the pepper compartment. This is not a Subway I’d recommend – but I can’t go anywhere else for lunch. I have half an hour and it takes 15 minutes to walk to my car. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/236 "2011-04-16T14:13:05Z")
> [@Sierra\_Indigo](#): > > [Hey look at this, “veggie” is a fucking word](http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/veggie). Prescriptivism ain’t ever gonna win! Descriptivism from the cradle to the grave baby. Descriptivism for life. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tao_s_Revenge)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/237 "2011-04-16T14:21:18Z")
> [@Sigmagirl](#): > > **“Is this a veggie sub?”** > > She has made this sandwich from beginning to end. She hasn’t cut the bread and passed it down for somebody else to put the fillings in it. Unless I somehow leapt over the counter, put some ham on it while she wasn’t looking, and leapt back over again, it’s a **vegetable** sub. I can’t answer yes, because _there is no such fucking word as “veggie.”_ I just have to ask. What is your definition of word that omits veggie? Veggie has meaning that’s mutually understood by most English speakers, in what sense is it not a word? I’m really curious. ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/238 "2011-04-16T18:47:28Z")
> [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > Descriptivism for life. > [@The\_Tao\_s\_Revenge](#): > > I just have to ask. What is your definition of word that omits veggie? Veggie has meaning that’s mutually understood by most English speakers, in what sense is it not a word? Oh it’s a word, all right. That’s the problem. The real question is [how much are we going to warp our consciousness by using it](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13654822&postcount=127) before we realize what we’re doing? ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/239 "2011-04-16T19:15:23Z")
> [@guizot](#): > > Still, it’s not clear that how essential this is to language acquisition, as we’re only now getting large amounts of data to know. Do you think parents did this 100 years ago? 70? ---
**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/240 "2011-04-16T21:46:48Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Do you think parents did this 100 years ago? 70? I’m sure they did, but only now are we creating data collections like [this](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwgkT34g61w), (MIT’s Deb Roy’s documentation of his own son’s language acquisition). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986.md?page=13)