# I Hate the Word "Veggies"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 2, 2011, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986 "2011-04-02T23:42:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![gallows\_fodder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8c91f0/32.png) [@gallows\_fodder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gallows_fodder)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/121 "2011-04-05T20:44:13Z")

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Another word I realized today that I hate:

Quibble

I hate the way it sounds, and I hate that it is almost always used by people who are currently engaged in (ugh) quibbling despite their protests of, “Not that I want to quibble BUT…” and who could benefit from a few punches to the face for being so goddamned pedantic.

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**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/122 "2011-04-05T21:15:51Z")

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> [@Meyer6](#):
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> What annoys me is when people type words that end -ing as -in’. “I was goin’ to the store”, I was thinkin’ about making dinner", etc. I know a lot of people say it that way, but typing it that way just makes you look like a hillbilly. The worst is _sumptin_’ - it makes me wonder if the writer has brain damage or sumptin’.

Yeah. Who the fuck does Mark Twain think he is?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/123 "2011-04-05T21:20:09Z")

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> [@Odesio](#):
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> Yeah. Who the fuck does Mark Twain think he is?

I think he had brain damage or sumptin.

And sumptin.

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**Author:** ![Chum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/3ab097/32.png) [@Chum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chum)\
**Post date:** [April 5, 2011, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/124 "2011-04-05T21:40:21Z")

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By reading through this whole thread, I lost sight of if and how I use the word “veggies.” But I’m fairly sure it’s only in contexts like:

- veggie burger (because that’s how they’re marketed)
- veggies and dip (maybe I should start calling them crudites)
- veggie sandwich/tacos/pizza (because they’re vegetarian)

Aside from those specific contexts, I’ll take any opportunity to say the word “vegetable.” It’s one of those lovely words where the physicality of saying it mimics the meaning. Only if you skip the second E, though. Vedgtable. Saying it feels like I’m chewing on something hearty and wholesome.

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**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/125 "2011-04-06T00:16:33Z")

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Pronounce it “crud-ites” just to watch people wince.

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**Author:** ![zweisamkeit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zweisamkeit/32/4360_2.png) [@zweisamkeit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zweisamkeit)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/126 "2011-04-06T00:17:28Z")

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I hope y’all always pronounce both "r"s in February.

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**Author:** ![guizot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guizot/32/3636_2.png) [@guizot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/guizot)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/127 "2011-04-06T00:17:49Z")

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> [@Gangster\_Octopus](#):
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> …in many cases it is meannt to indicate that something is vegetarian, like Veggie burrito, means it has vegetables, and cheese, and tomato and maybe some tofu… Now some folks may even get upset in that case, but I don’t see how saying veggie burrito is childish at all

Don’t you see that that circumstance is precisely what makes the word so repugnant? When I order something that’s vegetarian–and I eat vegetarian food a lot–I don’t want to be forced to talk like Rachel Ray by using this hippy-dippy term, as though vegetarians have to resort to non-hegemonic vocabulary to index the “alternativeness” or the “non-traditional” healthiness of their food “choice.” Eating vegetables–even eating _only_ vegetables–is a normal thing that humans have been doing for millenniums, and it doesn’t require some Ned Flanderism to call special attention to the act.

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**Author:** ![california\_jobcase](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9d8465/32.png) [@california\_jobcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/california_jobcase)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/128 "2011-04-06T01:26:13Z")

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Alum is aluminum potassium sulfate, an astringent chemical used in pickles. An alumnus or alumna is a graduate from a school. Pickles are fruit if they have seeds in them. Pickled cauliflower is, however, a veggie. I remember when cookie was spelled cooky and I say it still should be.

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/129 "2011-04-06T03:10:37Z")

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> [@zweisamkeit](#):
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> I hope y’all always pronounce both "r"s in February.

Yep, just like both "d"s in Wednesday.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/130 "2011-04-06T17:36:00Z")

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> [@xoferew](#):
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> > [@Infovore](#):
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> > I don’t mind cutesy Britishisms (like “choccie” or “prezzie”) because I’m an Anglophile and I like most things British, even if they’re kind of stupid. 🙂
> > 
> > I don’t like:
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> > - Panties (for the underwear of anybody over the age of about 7)  
> > …
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> Wait, isn’t “panties” a real word though?

Of course it’s a real word. But **Infovore** prefers to call them “knickers.”

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**Author:** ![Infovore](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/infovore/32/420_2.png) [@Infovore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Infovore)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/131 "2011-04-06T18:24:03Z")

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> [@spark240](#):
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> Of course it’s a real word. But **Infovore** prefers to call them “knickers.”

Heehee. Not really, actually. I usually just call them “underwear” or “undies.” But I have to admit I always do chuckle when I’m writing a story and I refer to something about one of my characters’ “pants,” because I’ve been halfway conditioned to think of “pants” as “underwear.”

I wonder if any Brits have taken “knickers” a step further and started calling them “knickies”?

I hope not. 😛

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/132 "2011-04-06T18:29:29Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> Heehee. Not really, actually. I usually just call them “underwear” or “undies.”

See, I won’t use undies for anyone over the age of 7. Panties, however, is a perfectly fine and sometimes sexy word.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/133 "2011-04-06T19:18:49Z")

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I love panties.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [April 6, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/134 "2011-04-06T19:37:10Z")

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Someone needs to steal that for a sig.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/135 "2011-04-07T00:57:08Z")

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I fully agree with the “veggies” shit. Am I to expect the waitress to ask me how I want my “eggies” cooked in the near future??

DON’T, DON’T get me started on “meds”. GRRRRR… Makes everyone sound like a depressed teenager.

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**Author:** ![xoferew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/e9a140/32.png) [@xoferew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xoferew)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/136 "2011-04-07T01:19:39Z")

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I am wearing panties RIGHT NOW! And I had some scrumpdiliumpshious veggeroos for din-din. During which I became mildly intoxicated. And they are Hello Kitty panties.

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**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/137 "2011-04-07T01:41:35Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> I fully agree with the “veggies” shit. Am I to expect the waitress to ask me how I want my “eggies” cooked in the near future??

Meaties: Dinner of Champions.

> [@xoferew](#):
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> I am wearing panties RIGHT NOW
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> \<snip\>
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> And they are Hello Kitty panties.

That’s … hot 🆒

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**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/138 "2011-04-07T05:57:45Z")

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But… why are you wearing them on your head, **xoferew**?

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/139 "2011-04-07T07:10:05Z")

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I hate the term “F-bomb”. Just fucking say fuck.

The idea that a perfectly normal, widely used word is some sort of “bomb” is fucking juvenile.

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**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\
**Post date:** [April 7, 2011, 7:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-the-word-veggies/576986/140 "2011-04-07T07:27:07Z")

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> [@Infovore](#):
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> Heehee. Not really, actually. I usually just call them “underwear” or “undies.”

Which reminds me, I really hate the word “undies” applied to teens or older.

Which sounds right:

Bra and panties.

Bra and undies.

The first one sounds normal: panties only applies to teens or older, who may wear bras. “Underwear” is not specific enough, because it could include the bra.

The second just sounds horrible and makes me wonder why a 7 year old is wearing a bra.

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