# I hate to say this but...

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 7, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049 "2012-03-07T17:38:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![SticksAndString](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@SticksAndString](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SticksAndString)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/1 "2012-03-07T17:38:41Z")

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I TOLD YOU SO I TOLD YOU SO I TOOOOLD YOOOOU SOOOO!

See…you should’ve listened to me when I told you that this wasn’t going to work out like you said it would and now when it hasn’t worked out the way you wanted NOW you want to change things.

TOLD YOU SO TOLD YOU SO TOLD YOU SO!

If I felt like I was competent enough to do homeschooling or had the money for a private school (which I don’t and I really don’t) I’d yank him out so fast your head would spin around.

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**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/2 "2012-03-07T17:40:12Z")

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Well, that made sense.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 5:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/3 "2012-03-07T17:41:58Z")

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1. Welcome to the SDMB. I hope you have a wonderful time here, and choose us for all your ranting needs.

2. You don’t really think you’re going to get away with leaving it at that, do you?

STORIES!!!

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**Author:** ![SticksAndString](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@SticksAndString](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SticksAndString)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/4 "2012-03-07T17:47:52Z")

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I have a son with several disabilities–speech/motor skills issues, sensory issues, ADHD _and_ Asperger’s. At the end of the last school year, the district re-drew the attendance zones which moved us from a school he’d attended for two years at that point. At school A, he’d done very very well because they had Content Mastery where he got one on one attention/help as well as a quiet place to do his work without the distractions that come with a normal classroom enviroment.

School B (where he’s been attending this year) does not HAVE Content Mastery (I forget the reason…it’s probably budget cuts though) and so this year has been extremely difficult for him because of that. I told the teacher and the sp ed. specialist going into this year that things would be difficult for Slim but they reassured me he’d do JUST FINE.

He hasn’t done JUST FINE…his grades are OK (mostly As and Bs because he’s incredibly smart, like a lot of Aspies) but he’s not (their words) “producing the level of work we know he’s capable of doing” because he gets distracted too easily (having one kid who actively goes out of his way to try and distract Slim doesn’t help either).

It’s only now, towards the end of the school year, that the staff is admitting they might have made a mistake and we’re going to do everything we can to push through a transfer back to school A for next fall.

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**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/5 "2012-03-07T17:57:34Z")

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Well, I’m happy for you and your lad that they’re going to try to fix it. I’d hate to think of the extra challenges you’d be letting yourself in for were you conclude that you needed to homeschool him even without feeling confident. Best of luck to you and him.

And again, welcome. 🙂

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**Author:** ![SticksAndString](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@SticksAndString](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SticksAndString)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/6 "2012-03-07T18:05:13Z")

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Thanks. 🙂

I know that his teacher, bless her heart, has been doing her best to educate my rambunctious, unmedicated ADHD-laden Aspie who (as Aspies frequently do) seems to have a bad case of “run-on mouth”\*.  
\*run-on mouth just basically means he NEVER EVER shuts up. He talks or sings or hums ALL THE TIME…even in his sleep. LOL

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/7 "2012-03-07T18:06:17Z")

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His name is Slim?

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**Author:** ![Dung\_Beetle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dung_beetle/32/7945_2.png) [@Dung\_Beetle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dung_Beetle)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/8 "2012-03-07T18:18:26Z")

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I wouldn’t mess around with him.

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**Author:** ![SticksAndString](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@SticksAndString](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SticksAndString)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/9 "2012-03-07T18:19:02Z")

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No, it’s a nickname because he’s always been kinda skinny. Whoever invented those pants with the adjustable elastic doohickeys (NOT a drawstring…it’s elastic that has button holes in it) was a GENIUS, because otherwise he’d never have pants that fit.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/10 "2012-03-07T18:42:47Z")

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Oh it’s like that old joke. Why did the kid with Aspergers wear an adjustable elastic waistband?  
To keep his pants up!

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**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/11 "2012-03-07T19:13:55Z")

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In his sleevies! Wait, wrong punchline…

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/12 "2012-03-07T19:44:49Z")

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> [@SticksAndString](#):
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> I know that his teacher, bless her heart, has been doing her best to educate my rambunctious, unmedicated ADHD-laden Aspie who (as Aspies frequently do) seems to have a bad case of “run-on mouth”\*.  
> \*run-on mouth just basically means he NEVER EVER shuts up. He talks or sings or hums ALL THE TIME…even in his sleep. LOL

Witness. Preach it, sistah.

Run-on mouth has driven me closer to homicidal rage than anything else in the universe.

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**Author:** ![SticksAndString](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3bc359/32.png) [@SticksAndString](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SticksAndString)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/13 "2012-03-07T22:52:06Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Witness. Preach it, sistah.
> 
> Run-on mouth has driven me closer to homicidal rage than anything else in the universe.

_high-fives_  
I’m so glad I’m not the only one who’s felt that way from time to time.😃

This is not a war I signed up for voluntarily, I was drafted with no warning whatsoever. I’ve slogged through the dirty mud a bit and I’ve had more than a few good days. It’s the good days that keep me going and thank goodness Slim has a natural talent for clownish behavior to keep me laughing, otherwise I’d be crying all the time.

SaS

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [March 7, 2012, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/14 "2012-03-07T23:48:20Z")

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I’m with you OP. Aspergers & ADHD are the croutons on my son’s Bipolar I salad. The kid becomes Napoleon-esque, he won’t calm down, and he won’t shut up. I love him dearly but nobody has ever come closer to driving me to cannibalism.

For giving us this disorder, Mr. Asperger should be hunted down and talked to, incessantly, until we think he’s had enough.

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**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/15 "2012-03-08T01:14:07Z")

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So how did your kid get stuck with a transfer to a school that didn’t have the appropriate programs?

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/16 "2012-03-08T02:43:33Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> So how did your kid get stuck with a transfer to a school that didn’t have the appropriate programs?

Um…

> [@SticksAndString](#):
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> At the end of the last school year, the district re-drew the attendance zones which moved us from a school he’d attended for two years at that point.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/17 "2012-03-08T04:56:58Z")

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> [@Boyo\_Jim](#):
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> So how did your kid get stuck with a transfer to a school that didn’t have the appropriate programs?

It’s because he’s a terrible father.

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**Author:** ![Rushgeekgirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rushgeekgirl/32/3715_2.png) [@Rushgeekgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rushgeekgirl)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/18 "2012-03-08T05:19:38Z")

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As a mama who just had her annual IEP update meeting this afternoon, I feel ya. I was told the same thing about my little girl (autism spectrum but where TBD). She’s very, very smart. Just doesn’t apply herself. Gets distracted. Really? Just like I told you she would? Because of the sensory issues? At least now they’ve finally figured out to warn her when they’re about to pull the fire alarm for a drill so she doesn’t have a full-on panic attack.

And yet her OT thinks she’s “on level” so her services aren’t needed anymore. I think this is a huge mistake, and I let her know but she says because of her scores she doesn’t qualify. She hasn’t changed that much in the past six months. She still needs help with sensory adjustment, with defensiveness, very poor handwriting due to her pronate grip, and yes it’s only occasional, but she does still spin for self stimulation. Not to mention aggressiveness with other children… oh but she’s just fine. We shall see. I find it curious that her independent speech path at LeBonheur says her language skills are that of a four year old (she’s seven) but her school speech therapist says she’s at age six, so her therapy will be reduced from 1.5 hours a week to .5. I’m real curious how the same inventory came up with two full years difference in the scoring and I’m QUITE curious why they didn’t have those scores for me to see at the meeting today.

I’m not a happy mama right now because I know I’m going to have to push. I’m a very passive, easy-going person. I hate pushing. But I’ve had to push for everything related to her diagnosis since she was two years old. I might as well get used to it.

I’d like to think maybe I’m wrong. . . after all THEY are the experts, but they are experts at one thing while I’m expert in another. I’d rather be wrong though, than get the change to say “I told you so”. Anything for her to show some strong improvement.

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 9:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/19 "2012-03-08T09:49:32Z")

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> [@SticksAndString](#):
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> At the end of the last school year, the district re-drew the attendance zones which moved us from a school he’d attended for two years at that point.

School administrators who do this ought to be poked with knitting needles all day and night till they’ve had enough. Seriously. Leave the kids in the damn school they started in, numbnuts, by all means restrict entry for new kids but why fuck about with the peer groups of the ones who are already there. Never mind the EXTRA issues with a special needs kid who needs all the support he can get, not being shunted around by faceless administrators

I just did the enrolment for my own ASD son to start next year where his sisters go. We’re out of area (not our fault - we were in area when the Taller Girl started) but he has a sibling exemption. If we didn’t have that then I guess we’d be looking for a new house round about now, but one way or another by hook or by crook he IS going to that school and let who dares try to stop us. And as for ripping him out of a school where he’s already established… (_glares round at assembled company threateningly_)

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**Author:** ![Aspidistra](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspidistra/32/3894_2.png) [@Aspidistra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspidistra)\
**Post date:** [March 8, 2012, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-say-this-but/615049/20 "2012-03-08T09:57:55Z")

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> [@Rushgeekgirl](#):
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> I’d like to think maybe I’m wrong. . . after all THEY are the experts, but they are experts at one thing while I’m expert in another.

My phrase for this is “hey, you have a degree in OT/Speech/Psych … but _I_ have a degree in Daniel from the University of Imhismum.”

Not had to say it out loud - _yet_

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