# I hate to sound dense, but... (question about livejournal) **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [January 12, 2005, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352 "2005-01-12T05:36:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/1 "2005-01-12T05:36:24Z")
[This thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=296416), about all the livejournal “community” nonsense, was closed by **Cajun Man** for “obvious reasons.” I hate to sound dense, but it’s really not that obvious to me. This is the second time I’ve seen the thing treated like the Fight Club on here, and I still don’t get why exactly we’re not supposed to talk about it. I’m not trying to be belligerent or argumentative; I just get the feeling that there’s some aspect of the whole thing that I’m missing… ---
**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/2 "2005-01-12T05:48:18Z")
Seems like your basic board war to me. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/3 "2005-01-12T06:19:45Z")
Because the two are non-affliated and the Reader wants nothing to do with the SDMB themed (but unofficial) communities on livejournal. It’s the same reason that there is a sticky in MPSIMS warning that you attend Dopefests at your own risk and that anything that happens there is not the responsibility of this board, its moderators, administrators, and owners and that anytime the mIRC channel is mentioned, people explicitly state that the room is in no way official. ---
**Author:** ![kimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/f0a364/32.png) [@kimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kimera)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 8:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/4 "2005-01-12T08:29:55Z")
If you really want to see it, go to [livejournal.com](http://livejournal.com) and search under interests for sdmb. You will see it, although after you’ve seen it, you will probably wish you hadn’t. 😕 I’m assuming that you haven’t seen it, because if you had, I figured you’d understand why they wouldn’t want references to it posted on the boards. ---
**Author:** ![Zabali\_Clawbane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/ecd19e/32.png) [@Zabali\_Clawbane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zabali_Clawbane)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/5 "2005-01-12T16:10:52Z")
No kidding. It’s the “putrid, infected underside” of part? of the SDMB community. The ? denotes the fact that I can’t tell the precise number of how many snarks there are, but I get a definite idea of who some are likely to be. I don’t blame the Chicago Reader for not wanting to be associated with that, because it’s unsavory and makes the SDMB look bad. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/6 "2005-01-12T18:15:49Z")
> [@ava](#): > > If you really want to see it, go to [livejournal.com](http://livejournal.com) and search under interests for sdmb. I did this last night. > [@](#): > > You will see it, although after you’ve seen it, you will probably wish you hadn’t. 😕 And you’re right. ---
**Author:** ![SolGrundy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@SolGrundy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SolGrundy)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/7 "2005-01-12T19:25:37Z")
To clarify: I have seen it, and I think it’s nonsense, and I definitely didn’t intend to give it any more attention than it deserves. And I think I just answered my own question. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/8 "2005-01-12T20:15:45Z")
Also, keep in mind there is more than one SDMB related LJ community. The one simply named SDMB is a just another place for Dopers to gather, and it’s a nice place. The other ones, with different names like maybe sdmbaddicts or sdmbhaters or whatever are the ones that tend to attract the anonymous crowds.\* \*Those aren’t actually the names of the other anonymous style journals-I just made them up to avoid giving out the real name. ---
**Author:** ![Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Tapioca\_Dextrin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tapioca_Dextrin)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2005, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/9 "2005-01-12T20:54:22Z")
> [@Tuba Diva (in the original thread)](#): > > To amplify a little, please do not bring your disagreements with other people/organizations over here. There is a longstanding SDMB policy against this sort of thing. Argue with them somewhere else. > > As for taking anything posted anonymously on a website dedicated to trashing people and giving that real consideration as anything worthwhile or meaningful . . . gotta consider the source. > > your humble TubaDiva > Administrator That’s the word from upstairs ---
**Author:** ![Exgineer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Exgineer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exgineer)\ **Post date:** [January 13, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/10 "2005-01-13T15:50:10Z")
I lurked for years before finally registering after a long internal debate about whether or not I should. Stuff like that LJ group makes me think I made the wrong decision. ---
**Author:** ![elmwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/elmwood/32/3060_2.png) [@elmwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elmwood)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/11 "2005-01-17T03:33:02Z")
This was the first time I heard about it. For some reason, a few people there wish I was outta’ here. I feel honored. Looks like it’s gone now. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/12 "2005-01-17T04:48:55Z")
Yes, it seems to have vanished. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/13 "2005-01-17T06:17:21Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > Yes, it seems to have vanished. But, alas, a new one has risen from the ashes. _sigh_ ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/14 "2005-01-17T13:39:03Z")
> [@Q.E.D.](#): > > But, alas, a new one has risen from the ashes. _sigh_ There is a “market” for such places. They would not continue if there were not people who wanted to engage in those sorts of exchanges. The issue is not to make a big deal about how terrible they are, but simply to not drag issues, comments, and links back and forth between those fora and this board. ---
**Author:** ![C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b2d939/32.png) [@C\_K\_Dexter\_Haven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/C_K_Dexter_Haven)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/15 "2005-01-17T13:45:58Z")
I never go to any of them. While a couple of them, like **Opal** ’s board, are nicely run (I’m told) and even moderated, generally they’re a hang-out for people who have been banned from these boards. Banning is not done lightly here, but we are a moderated board and we do kick out people who can’t play nice – people who can’t avoid insulting other posters, for instance, or people who can’t stop posting racist hatreds, and people who think the world owes them a living and they’re entitled to a free ride on a paid message board, and so forth. Generally speaking, they’re not the sort of people that I want to have any further dealings with. ---
**Author:** ![Exapno\_Mapcase](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/exapno_mapcase/32/1051_2.png) [@Exapno\_Mapcase](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Exapno_Mapcase)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/16 "2005-01-17T17:01:16Z")
[teemingmillions.com](http://teemingmillions.com) also gives a 404 error. Was it replaced by the fathom board or is that a whole 'nother thing? ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/17 "2005-01-17T17:05:45Z")
Dunno. LiveJournal had a major failure over the weekend, could be the journals are on a server that’s not back up yet. your humble TubaDiva Administrator ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [January 17, 2005, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/18 "2005-01-17T20:06:40Z")
> [@tomndebb](#): > > The issue is not to make a big deal about how terrible they are, but simply to not drag issues, comments, and links back and forth between those fora and this board. Well, I agree with that wholeheartedly. I just find it sad and pathetic that some people feel the _need_ for such a place, is all. It takes all kinds, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Ephemera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8baadc/32.png) [@Ephemera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ephemera)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/19 "2005-01-18T06:53:00Z")
> [@TubaDiva](#): > > Dunno. LiveJournal had a major failure over the weekend, could be the journals are on a server that’s not back up yet. > > your humble TubaDiva > Administrator Nope. It’s definitely gone but it has thirty days to be brought back before it’s permanent. ---
**Author:** ![TubaDiva](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tubadiva/32/507_2.png) [@TubaDiva](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TubaDiva)\ **Post date:** [January 18, 2005, 10:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-to-sound-dense-but-question-about-livejournal/284352/20 "2005-01-18T10:47:03Z")
Oh! Well, then. your humble TubaDiva Administrator who will someday get to her proposed Charles Mingus shrine page on LJ, not only to honor Mingus, but so she’ll know what everybody else is talking about.