# I hate you so much right now

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 24, 2010, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326 "2010-06-24T04:59:32Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 11\
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**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 3:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/61 "2010-06-25T03:44:41Z")

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If you’re that incompetent at manning a cellphone, I’d rather not run the risk of depending on you to save my life.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 10:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/62 "2010-06-25T10:49:28Z")

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> [@whole\_bean](#):
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> Now, the attempt to shift blame is troublesome, but the only person participatign in this thread who knows anything more than this is the OP, yet people who are unqualified to make conclusions about B are not letting that stop them.

Greetings! Allow me to be the first to welcome you to the internet!

Seriously though, I don’t have to know B personally to know that anyone who throws you under the bus is not your friend. In this particular instance the harm to the OP was minimal. But the next bus may well be bigger, so step away from the twitchy guilty looking guy.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/63 "2010-06-25T12:33:25Z")

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> [@whole\_bean](#):
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> Seriously, add fucking dishonest (or dumb), hyperbolic and unreasonable to your title. I said that of the two gaffes (and there are only two: 1. insulting email to superior; and 2. pinning the blame on the OP), the only one of any “real” concern to the OP is the second. I honestly do not think that every person who does something on par with accidentally sending an insulting text to his superior should have his s/o question whether that person is “relationship material.”
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> How you get from that to, “So, nothing your SO does, no matter how foolish, rates with you unless it has some direct and material impact on you?” is mystifying. I’ve said nothing of the sort, I have no idea why you would think I had.

Why’d you do it, B?

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2010, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/64 "2010-06-25T23:39:24Z")

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> [@whole\_bean](#):
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> I work in the corporate world. That’s simply not a rule at all. May be so were you work, but is is not universal.

You betcha.

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**Author:** ![Hello\_Again](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hello\_Again](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hello_Again)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/65 "2010-06-26T02:14:36Z")

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> [@whole\_bean](#):
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> I work in the corporate world. That’s simply not a rule at all. May be so were you work, but is is not universal.

S & B are FDNY firefighters, and they wrk under extremely considerable and restrictive conduct rules. The conduct constituting an infraction for which discipline may be rendered are briefly itemized in NYC Administratve Code 15-113 to include:  
(There is also a lengthy Code of Conduct that further elaborates on the general categories)

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> conviction of a member of the force of any legal offense  
> or neglect of duty,  
> or violation of rules,  
> or neglect or disobedience of orders  
> or incapacity,  
> or absence without leave,  
> or any conduct injurious to the public peace or welfare,  
> or immoral conduct,  
> or conduct unbecoming an officer or member,  
> or other breach of discipline,

Under the NYC Aministrative code, (section 15-113) the only penalties available for violations are: reprimand, 10 days pay per infraction, or termination.

B did a stupid, thoughtless thing, but I think it quite likely he was justifiably scared for his job when he made that stupid decision. He would have a right to a hearing (at which he would receive legal represention through his union) before he was teminated, but the FDNY could definitely seek his termination.

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**Author:** ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/66 "2010-06-26T05:17:56Z")

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Is B stupid? Yes.

Is B stupid for thinking that his girlfriend might actually try to save his job, if only to avoid him crashing on her couch for six months while he morosely peruses the want ads? Results unclear, ask again later.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 7:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/67 "2010-06-26T07:25:59Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> Is B stupid? Yes.
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> Is B stupid for thinking that his girlfriend might actually try to save his job, if only to avoid him crashing on her couch for six months while he morosely peruses the want ads? Results unclear, ask again later.

If you think putting your job in front of you girlfriend’s reputation is an acceptable position, then you likewise are not relationship material.

No one ever has an obligation to commit immorality to save someone else. I don’t care how much you “love” him.

Anyways, ff she had lied and said she sent it, it would still be apparent it was a lie. So no only would the guy be out of a job, but she’d be thought less of by her friend.

Oh, and she doesn’t have to worry about him using her couch. She broke up with him, remember?

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**Author:** ![AClockworkMelon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aclockworkmelon/32/10803_2.png) [@AClockworkMelon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AClockworkMelon)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/68 "2010-06-26T07:58:19Z")

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OP is completely in the right to be pissed off. If I got caught doing something like that I can’t even imagine coming up with “Uh, oh, my girlfriend must have sent that!”

Also: Everyone who’s knocking the guy for daring to send a text to a friend about what a bitch his superior is gets an eyeroll from me. You guys are constantly bitching about your superiors on this website. He made a mistake by sending it to the wrong person. The REAL fuck up is lying about it afterwards and it’s a major fuck up, I think. I’d certainly break up with a girl who tried to do that to me.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [July 13, 2010, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/69 "2010-07-13T20:31:10Z")

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You got a new boyfriend in less than two weeks? How do you _do_ that??

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/70 "2010-07-14T21:13:44Z")

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**Catwhisperer** nailed it, in the first post.

Go back and re read it. And keep re reading it, until it sinks in. Open your eyes and see what’s right there for you to see.

He isn’t acting out of character, he’s revealing his character. Confuse the two at your peril.

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**Author:** ![YogSothoth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/8edcca/32.png) [@YogSothoth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/YogSothoth)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2010, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hate-you-so-much-right-now/544326/71 "2010-07-14T23:41:33Z")

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I’ll insert something totally different:

I think it should be fine to not like your boss and get caught saying so. Miss So-and-So should just vent the hate back at B and left it at that. People are expecting too much. They remind of George Costanza saying that everyone must like him. Some people just don’t get along, so what?

On the simple account that B, as a firefighter, puts his life on the line to save people, I’d give him a pass. He panicked and thought he was going to lose his job, so blamed a 3rd party that he thought wouldn’t be hurt by the drama. Imagine if Mississippiene wasn’t a friend of S. What could Miss So-and-So do?

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