# "I have a headache"="I want sex." Black is white, up is down ...

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 13, 2003, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196 "2003-03-13T22:42:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/81 "2003-03-15T20:58:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by djf750 \*  
> \*\*Women…You can’t live WITH them. And you can’t live WITH them.
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> ps Tee, wanna fool around?
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> \*\*

See now, is that so difficult? “Wanna fool around?” I mean, there’s no room for error there. I’ll take it.

Though I’m a little busy now with this violin solo I started playing halfway through your post. Maybe later. 😛

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**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/82 "2003-03-15T21:14:35Z")

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I have to vote in favor of the notion that if you want something, ask for it; you might get it. Works well for Mrs. Mercotan and I. _Expecting_ certain behavioral cues to result in clear understanding and compliance with wishes is just asking for trouble. Expectations are pre-meditated resentments.

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**Author:** ![djf750](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@djf750](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/djf750)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/83 "2003-03-15T21:20:35Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tee \*  
> \*\*See now, is that so difficult? “Wanna fool around?” I mean, there’s no room for error there. I’ll take it.
> 
> Though I’m a little busy now with this violin solo I started playing halfway through your post. Maybe later. 😛 \*\*

See what happened there folks?

First she says yes.  
Then no. (busy)  
Then maybe. Later.

Help me. what did she mean? (does she even know?)

AND she can play the violin and type at the same time?

Gee, how rare. A confusing woman.

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**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/84 "2003-03-15T22:39:53Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tee \*  
> \*\*See now, is that so difficult? “Wanna fool around?” I mean, there’s no room for error there. I’ll take it.  
> \*\*

**Warning, womanly “testiness” about to ensue in this post, not meant to be taken personally**

No, not so “difficult” til you get turned down 500 times in a row, THEN you start trying to figure out subtle ways to “test the water” so you don’t have to deal with such rejection all the time.

Also, to whomever it was that posted “grow up” to the desire women have for the “knight in shining armor” scene.

I believe that those of us describing that little fantasy made it QUITE clear that we didn’t actually REQUIRE our men to read our minds and that we were quite aware that that would be unfair, but that we were asking for the right to dream, without being judged.

Which you then turned around and did (judge that is) by saying “uh…grow up”.

Getting swept off your feet fantasies are childish?

Give us a break.

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**Author:** ![Tee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/73ab20/32.png) [@Tee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tee)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/85 "2003-03-15T22:55:02Z")

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Sorry **CanvasShoes** , I was projecting onto my husband who probably hasn’t been turned down 5 times in as many years. I had every right to call him on that and he agreed.

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> \*Originally posted by djf750 \*  
> \*\*See what happened there folks?
> 
> First she says yes.  
> Then no. (busy)  
> Then maybe. Later.
> 
> Help me. what did she mean? (does she even know?)
> 
> AND she can play the violin and type at the same time?
> 
> Gee, how rare. A confusing woman. \*\*

…worse, I’m afraid. I’m only using you for your supply of great potential sig lines. 😉

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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [March 15, 2003, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/86 "2003-03-15T23:37:27Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Qadgop the Mercotan \*  
> \*\*I have to vote in favor of the notion that if you want something, ask for it; you might get it. Works well for Mrs. Mercotan and I. _Expecting_ certain behavioral cues to result in clear understanding and compliance with wishes is just asking for trouble. Expectations are pre-meditated resentments. \*\*

AMEN, BROTHER!

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**Author:** ![djf750](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@djf750](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/djf750)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/87 "2003-03-16T00:34:01Z")

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> \*Originally posted by CanvasShoes \*  
> [B
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> Getting swept off your feet fantasies are childish?
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> Give us a break. \*\*

Fantasies are fine.But please don’t get resentful when men can’t live up to these fantasies. They are only in the movies, not real life. Sorry.

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**Author:** ![djf750](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ea666f/32.png) [@djf750](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/djf750)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/88 "2003-03-16T00:36:47Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Tee \*  
> \*\*
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> …worse, I’m afraid. I’m only using you for your supply of great potential sig lines. 😉 \*\*

oh well better than nothing.

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**Author:** ![Dragonblink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Dragonblink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dragonblink)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/89 "2003-03-16T03:21:22Z")

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So, the next time I have a horrible migraine and my (at the moment hypothetical) SO starts tryin’ to get it on, I’ll know Sauron’s wife is to blame. 🙂

Seriously, though … I want to second the suggestion someone made: if she complains of a headache, offer a backrub. If she has a real headache, a backrub will help and be greatly appreciated. Elsewise, backrubs can easily motate into less clothèd situations.

– Dragonblink, who’d give just about anything for a backrub at the moment

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**Author:** ![norinew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/eb9ed0/32.png) [@norinew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/norinew)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/90 "2003-03-16T19:26:48Z")

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> _Originally posted by Dragonblink_  
> Dragonblink, who’d give just about anything for a backrub at the moment

I give great backrubs! Can I email you one?😃

It can’t lead to anything else, though. I’m female, straight and happily married!

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**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\
**Post date:** [March 16, 2003, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-headache-i-want-sex-black-is-white-up-is-down/161196/91 "2003-03-16T22:26:09Z")

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> \*Originally posted by AudreyK \*  
> \*\*Is this what men are talking about when they say they don’t understand women? \*\*

Yes.

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