# I have a problem with the moderator tomndebb **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 3, 2007, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423 "2007-03-03T15:04:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Cervaise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cervaise/32/16693_2.png) [@Cervaise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cervaise)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/41 "2007-03-04T13:55:21Z")
[QUOTE=Wildfire\*\*MM] what where his/her motives?? [/QUOTE] ten bucks says he’s a queermo lolololol, pwned ---
**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 2:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/42 "2007-03-04T14:06:11Z")
Personally, my problem with the moderators is that Wildfire is _still here_. I’ve seen people banned for a quarter of the dumbassery he displays (which I’m emphatically NOT complaining about). Seriously… someone explain? ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/43 "2007-03-04T14:21:14Z")
[QUOTE=Contrapuntal] Just to be clear, are you saying that it is a generally accepted Christian tenet that Jesus was the product of a sexual union between Joseph and Mary? I’m not arguing; I’ve just never heard that before. [/QUOTE] I suspect that there is some confusion, here. The Septuagint did translated Hebrew _almah_ to Greek _parthénos_, changing the clear denoted value of the passage of Isaiah from “young woman” to “virgin.” Dawkins’s statement that the idea of the virginity of Mary was a “late interpolation” needs a bit more nuance. If by “late” he means that the idea was not considered either real or important in the years immediately following the life of Jesus, he may very well be correct. On the other hand, there is no evidence that some later author inserted that relevant passage into the Gospel of Matthew, (who was quite capable of wringing the least bit of foretelling out of the most innocuous passages of the Hebrew Scripture–as seen through the lens of the Septuagint). So the concept of the virgin birth appears to have begun circulating in the Christian community no more than about sixty years after the life of Jesus (and may have occurred earlier, although we have no documentary evidence for it). Whether that is a “later interpolation” depends on where one defines “early” and “late” and what one considers an interpolation. However, there is no mainstream Christian tradition that denies the virgin birth, even among those groups that view it as a “wonder story” instead of a historical recitation. ---
**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/44 "2007-03-04T15:07:28Z")
[QUOTE=Antinor01] Ever had a blowjob? That would be unnatural and agaist divine law since it can’t result in reproduction. [/QUOTE] That is probably the most bullshit “fact” I’ve ever read on this board, and that’s saying something. Sheesh, learn something for once in your pathetic life. I mean, _everyone_ knows that babies grow in women’s bellies! How do you think the sperm gets there? Not smarter than a fifth grader, indeed! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/45 "2007-03-04T16:45:13Z")
Aren’t a cabbage and a stork involved at some point? I’m a lesbian, and I have a cabbage. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/46 "2007-03-04T17:08:10Z")
[QUOTE=Shoshana] Aren’t a cabbage and a stork involved at some point? I’m a lesbian, and I have a cabbage. [/QUOTE] You’re going to _need_ cabbage. Do you have any idea how expensive adoption and artificial insemination are? ---
**Author:** ![pretend\_my\_name\_is\_witty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b9e5f3/32.png) [@pretend\_my\_name\_is\_witty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pretend_my_name_is_witty)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/47 "2007-03-04T17:15:20Z")
Hmm…start a ‘debate’ that’s clearly going to go no-where other than evoke reactions from other members. Then complain about it’s closure and then fuck off without responding? Do you have change? I’ve only got a tenner and I’d quite like to cross your bridge, **Wildfire**. ---
**Author:** ![susan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/susan/32/17537_2.png) [@susan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/susan)\ **Post date:** [March 4, 2007, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/48 "2007-03-04T23:48:11Z")
> [@](#): > > You’re going to need cabbage. Do you have any idea how expensive adoption and artificial insemination are? I was thinking I’d just find some drunk guy. Gotta diversify the genes and all. ---
**Author:** ![Canadjun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/76d3ee/32.png) [@Canadjun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Canadjun)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/49 "2007-03-05T01:00:43Z")
[QUOTE=pretend my name is witty] Hmm…start a ‘debate’ that’s clearly going to go no-where other than evoke reactions from other members. Then complain about it’s closure and then fuck off without responding? Do you have change? I’ve only got a tenner and I’d quite like to cross your bridge, **Wildfire**. [/QUOTE] Let’s have a debate about whether **Wildfire** MM\*\* is abnormal and/or unnatural! ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/50 "2007-03-05T01:44:52Z")
[QUOTE=Wildfire\*\*MM] **I have a problem with the moderator tomndebb** [/QUOTE] [No surprise there.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=389696) ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/51 "2007-03-05T02:12:53Z")
[QUOTE=Canadjun] Let’s have a debate about whether **Wildfire** MM\*\* is abnormal and/or unnatural! [/QUOTE] Yes! ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/52 "2007-03-05T03:18:06Z")
I vote for abnatural. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/53 "2007-03-05T03:21:15Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] I vote for abnatural. [/QUOTE] Was that Abbie Normal’s Sister? ---
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/54 "2007-03-05T03:34:39Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] Was that Abbie Normal’s Sister? [/QUOTE] No, that was his sister-in-law, married his brother Para Normal, the noted defense attorney. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/55 "2007-03-05T04:45:42Z")
[QUOTE=Canadjun] Let’s have a debate about whether **Wildfire** MM\*\* is abnormal and/or unnatural! [/QUOTE] The technical term is [_lusus naturae_](http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoaxmuseums.html), a “joke of nature,” aka “freak of nature,” unclassifiable, deviant, and deformed. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/56 "2007-03-05T04:58:04Z")
[QUOTE=Colibri] The technical term is [_lusus naturae_](http://www.museumofhoaxes.com/hoaxmuseums.html), a “joke of nature,” aka “freak of nature,” unclassifiable, deviant, and deformed. [/QUOTE] You mean he’s a sport? ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/57 "2007-03-05T05:10:26Z")
[QUOTE=Scissorjack] You mean he’s a sport? [/QUOTE] Possibly [Buzkashi](http://www.afghan-web.com/sports/buzkashi.html), AKA Afghan “goat grabbing.” ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/58 "2007-03-05T05:36:58Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > However, I dont desire to defend my viewpoints tooth-and-nail and to the death, a la The Pit. Things get very ugly here, very fast. I just thought I’d get things started, since that’s what everyone was complaining about. No desire to troll, honest! Bullshit. Either defend your viewpoint or get out of the kitchen. If you want to backpedal instead, go ride a bike. > [@Autolycus](#): > > Fuck. > > Well, I am a man of my word. Good for you, and good luck. Expect to see me in that thread with the argument I wrote up for this one. I still think you’re a laughable coward for backpedaling. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/59 "2007-03-05T07:26:40Z")
[QUOTE=fetus] Bullshit. Either defend your viewpoint or get out of the kitchen. If you want to backpedal instead, go ride a bike. … Good for you, and good luck. Expect to see me in that thread with the argument I wrote up for this one. I still think you’re a laughable coward for backpedaling. [/QUOTE] I love you too. ---
**Author:** ![Hostile\_Dialect](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e495f1/32.png) [@Hostile\_Dialect](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hostile_Dialect)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2007, 7:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423/60 "2007-03-05T07:51:22Z")
Rather unusual Pit response…anyway, having seen your response to the GD thread I’ll have to backpedal a little bit too and say that my original comments (“laughable coward” etc.) were overly harsh. And, as I said in the GD thread, good on you for staying rational and conceding the argument. It seems you’ve learned something about defending trolls in the Pit, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-a-problem-with-the-moderator-tomndebb/394423.md?page=2)