# I have an issue with Creedence Clearwater Revival **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [April 26, 2007, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769 "2007-04-26T19:16:44Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [April 27, 2007, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/41 "2007-04-27T23:51:48Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] _When your grandma gets old You can’t let her get cold Propane When your cousin, she’s hot But your fingers are not Propane_ _It’s so high, it’s so high, it’s so high Propane_ [/QUOTE] I used to listen to Erik Clapton occasionally when I drove my kids to pre-school. One day my oldest asked me to play the OK song. I had no idea what he was talking about, then he sang "She’s alright, She’s alright, She’s alright…OK. Now I find out it’s the propane song. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/42 "2007-04-28T00:01:28Z")
For those who are unaware, “Propane” was written and performed by [Pinkard & Bowden.](http://www.pinkardandbowden.com/cuz.htm) Definitely not your normal country duo. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/43 "2007-04-28T00:02:59Z")
[QUOTE=fishbicycle] You have the bassist and the drummer … [/QUOTE] Two \*very good \* musicians and \*very nice \* guys. Enjoy the show. ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/44 "2007-04-28T00:08:13Z")
Sorry, no. The **only** rhythm section to ever carry a band was Fleetwood Mac. CCR doesn’t even make it past “bar band” status, no matter how nice they are. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/45 "2007-04-28T20:48:27Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] Sorry, no. The **only** rhythm section to ever carry a band was Fleetwood Mac. CCR doesn’t even make it past “bar band” status, no matter how nice they are. [/QUOTE] No way. The drumkit is almost always the most important instrument in a rock ‘n’ roll band, and a good band is almost always carried by its rhythm section, whether anyone notices or not. Ironic, sure, given that drummers are, well, drummers. Guitarists are a dime a dozen; good bassists are rare, and good drummers are far rarer still. A good drummer is worth scores of good guitar players. And this is coming from a guitarist (30+ years). ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/46 "2007-04-28T21:10:10Z")
[QUOTE=Subterraneanus] Guitarists are a dime a dozen; good bassists are rare, and good drummers are far rarer still. [/QUOTE] Exactly. Neither of the remaining CCR members can be regarded as “good.” Barely competent, maybe. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/47 "2007-04-28T21:14:01Z")
[QUOTE=silenus] Exactly. Neither of the remaining CCR members can be regarded as “good.” Barely competent, maybe. [/QUOTE] That’s just crazy. Crazy. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/48 "2007-04-28T21:17:47Z")
My issue with Fogerty is that he went from songs like “Born on the Bayou” and “Fortunate Son” to crap like “Centerfield.” (God, do I LOATHE that song). ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/49 "2007-04-28T21:46:37Z")
[QUOTE=Mooch] Only semi-related, but has anyone seen _Creedence Clearwater **Revisited** _? Do they even come close without Fogerty? I have a pair of tickets and am hesitant to use them. [/QUOTE] Yeah, it wasn’t that bad. The new lead has a bit of a Fogerty edge to him. Enough to make the old songs work, anyways. Well, for the most part. Not a copy. Not a new star. But a good enough guitarist and singer to make it work for the outdoor venues full of 40 yr old beer drinking redneck/hippies that make up the audience. He’s also built like a god damn tank. HUGE arms, I ain’t kidding. I was wondering how the hell he bent them enough to play the freaking guitar. No idea who he was, but I’m pretty sure it wasn’t E.E. ---
**Author:** ![AskNott](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asknott/32/5790_2.png) [@AskNott](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AskNott)\ **Post date:** [April 28, 2007, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/50 "2007-04-28T22:17:33Z")
I’m assuming that the band name and all the old songs are still owned by that sharpie and his record company, so he can trot out any old troupe of pikers, calling them Creedence. When Fogerty plays his old songs, he still has to pay Saul Zantz. ---
**Author:** ![Runs\_With\_Scissors](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/278dde/32.png) [@Runs\_With\_Scissors](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Runs_With_Scissors)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/51 "2007-04-29T03:50:00Z")
[QUOTE=Guinastasia] My issue with Fogerty is that he went from songs like “Born on the Bayou” and “Fortunate Son” to crap like “Centerfield.” (God, do I LOATHE that song). [/QUOTE] There…now I don’t care if the OP is really that dense…I totally agree with this. You made the thread worth opening. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/52 "2007-04-29T05:25:34Z")
[QUOTE=Subterraneanus] No way. The drumkit is almost always the most important instrument in a rock ‘n’ roll band, and a good band is almost always carried by its rhythm section, whether anyone notices or not. Ironic, sure, given that drummers are, well, drummers. Guitarists are a dime a dozen; good bassists are rare, and good drummers are far rarer still. A good drummer is worth scores of good guitar players. And this is coming from a guitarist (30+ years). [/QUOTE] I’m a bassist. I believe the rhythm section is like the umpire at a baseball game. You know they’ve done a good job if you don’t notice them. Unless the rhythm section is Geddy Lee and Neil Peart. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/53 "2007-04-29T05:29:29Z")
My personal issue with CCR is their song “Cotton Fields,” which contains this lyric: “It was down in Louisiana, just about a mile from Texarkana.” Actually, Texarkana is a full 30 miles from the Louisiana state line. ---
**Author:** ![fishbicycle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/aeb1de/32.png) [@fishbicycle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fishbicycle)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/54 "2007-04-29T05:41:32Z")
[QUOTE=Siam Sam] My personal issue with CCR is their song “Cotton Fields,” [/QUOTE] Maybe you ought to take that up with Leadbelly. He wrote it. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/55 "2007-04-29T05:43:03Z")
[QUOTE=Siam Sam] My personal issue with CCR is their song “Cotton Fields,” which contains this lyric: “It was down in Louisiana, just about a mile from Texarkana.” Actually, Texarkana is a full 30 miles from the Louisiana state line. [/QUOTE] It’s not CCR’s song. Leadbelly wrote the song, and he was born in Louisiana and raised in east Texas. Chances are good he wasn’t good at geography. Chances are much better that it’s a great song despite its lack of geographical precision. Oops, beat me to it. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/56 "2007-04-29T06:00:22Z")
Dang! I forgot that. I always think of it as a CCR song. Was on the “Willy and the Poor Boys” album, yes? How about America’s “Horse with No Name”: “'Cause there ain’t no one for to give you no pain.” I’ve never been able to figure out who or who is not giving or not giving someone pain, or not. ---
**Author:** ![Subterraneanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a183cd/32.png) [@Subterraneanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subterraneanus)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/57 "2007-04-29T06:01:54Z")
[QUOTE=Siam Sam] Dang! I forgot that. I always think of it as a CCR song. Was on the “Willy and the Poor Boys” album, yes? How about America’s “Horse with No Name”: “'Cause there ain’t no one for to give you no pain.” I’ve never been able to figure out who or who is not giving or not giving someone pain, or not. [/QUOTE] That’s the least of that song’s problems. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 6:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/58 "2007-04-29T06:03:32Z")
[QUOTE=AskNott] I’m assuming that the band name and all the old songs are still owned by that sharpie and his record company, so he can trot out any old troupe of pikers, calling them Creedence. When Fogerty plays his old songs, he still has to pay Saul Zantz. [/QUOTE] Not any longer. Zaentz sold Fantasy Records to Concord Records in 2004. In 2005, Fogerty reached out to the new owners. They signed him to a new contract. and in the process restored all ownership and royalty rights to Fogerty for his Creedence songs. [Cite](http://music.yahoo.com/read/news/24925549) So, happily for Fogerty, every time Creedence Clearwater Revisited performs, he now gets paid. Anyway, here’s my issue with Fogerty. I was looking for a restroom and he told me there was a bathroom on the right. Well, I looked and didn’t find no stinkin’ bathroom there. I nearly wet my pants before I eventually found the restroom. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/59 "2007-04-29T14:39:02Z")
[QUOTE=Subterraneanus] Leadbelly wrote the song, and he was born in Louisiana and raised in east Texas. [/QUOTE] I always thought it was poetic license meaning they moved around a lot, perhaps sharecropping. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [April 29, 2007, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769/60 "2007-04-29T15:01:05Z")
Well, they’re down IN Louisiana. No matter how much they move around, they’re going to be at least 30 miles from Texarkana. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-an-issue-with-creedence-clearwater-revival/401769.md?page=4)