# I Have Become A Fan Of Silent Movies

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**Created:** [October 19, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389 "2009-10-19T20:51:22Z")\
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> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> But I have a few questions:
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> 1. Knowing their dialogue cannot be heard, did the actors still actually adhere to the script or were they just moving their lips or just saying stuff? I have _tried_ to “pick up” on some of the things being said, but until that placard shows on the screen, I have no clue.
> 
> 2. That “placard” (or whatever it’s called). Because of the speed of the film, those things don’t stay up long enough to read unless you have the remote and can pause it.
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> 3. The music: Is that the original soundtrack, or was it dubbed in after? (With the correct sheet music, of course).
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> 4. My favorite, I suppose, is everyone’s: _Metropolis_. I have been meaning to get the Rick Wakeman “soundtrack”, but cannot seem to remember to look for it. I was hoping to find a used version on Amazon.
> 
> I like the melodramas, where, at end, the male or female lead dies.
> 
> Seems to me, they had to do so much with so little, that almost everything you see on screen was exagerrated.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Quasi

I didnt know Rick Wakeman did a soundtrack for it, George Moroder did one, which I have. A quick look at [IMDB.com](http://IMDB.com) mentions the Moroder version, an original score [IIRC mostly Wagner] version, a version that mentions only electronically generated sound effects, no Rick Wakeman. I think I have an extra copy of the Moroder one if you like, Ill need to dig around. I may not have the case for it any longer [I had apparently lost the case, and thought the entire thing was gone and bought a second, then found the original disc…]

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 10:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/22 "2009-10-20T10:34:46Z")

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> [@ArchiveGuy](#):
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> Oh, and of course, welcome to the fold! If I had to list my favorite silent films, I’d have to go with (in addition to _Metropolis_, which you already mentioned):
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> **Foreign**  
> Germany: _Pandora’s Box_ w/the magnetic Louise Brooks  
> France: The hilarious _The Italian Straw Hat_, the stunning _The Lighthouse Keepers_, and the unforgettable _The Passion of Joan of Arc_ by Dreyer–plus _Un Chien Andalou_ by Luis Bunuel & Salvador Dali.  
> Japan: The intertitle-free horror film _A Page of Madness_ and the funny and touching _I Was Born, But…_ by the incomparable Ozu  
> Russia: _Potemkin_ still holds up remarkably well, but I like _Strike_ (also by Eisenstein) and _Earth_ better–plus, _Man with a Movie Camera_ is still probably the best movie about movies ever made.

You should try [Dr Mabuse, der Spieler, ein Bild der Zeit](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0013086/) I just picked it up a month or 2 ago, as I really liked [M](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022100/) which led me to [Das Testement des Dr Mabuse](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023563/) All 3 are Fritz Lang, and sort of in the same ‘universe’ - some of the cast are the same in all 3 movies [Frohman the homicide inspector is one of my favorite movie characters]

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/23 "2009-10-20T10:39:22Z")

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> [@Derleth](#):
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> _Nosferatu_ is probably my favorite silent film. My handicap with silent cinema is that it’s pre-Method acting, so I consider most of the performances to be _far_ overdone and melodramatic. _Nosferatu_ has hammy acting but it’s counterbalanced by a gripping performance by Schreck in the title role and an atmosphere of dread and unease it would be very difficult to replicate in a talky, let alone a color film.
> 
> I also absolutely love the Swedish film _[Häxan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%C3%A4xan)_ (The Witches), a fake documentary about witches and witchcraft that has some amazingly effective special effects. There is a version with narration by William S. Burroughs and an acid jazz soundtrack that I have only seen a small part of and I’m dying to see again.
> 
> And we cannot forget the surrealist masterpiece _[The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cabinet_of_Dr._Caligari)_, the father of a thousand music videos. 😉 The stunning visual style is an absolute joy.
> 
> Note well an advantage of silence: Translating films is a lot easier when all of the dialogue is on cards that can be on screen for as long as they need to be, as opposed to being spoken at a fixed rate judged to be effective for a given language and point in the film. Neither subtitles nor dubbing is as seamless as just translating the intertitles.

I seem to remember seeing Haxan recommended previously [probably by you =)] but did you know there is a shot for shot duplication of [The Cabinet of Dr Caligari](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0441741/) as a soundie [I think this is the one, netflix was refusing to play nice with me on a fast search for the specific one] that is good. I found it randomly watching instant gratification netflix =) and I can recommend it for being very watchable, though being a soundie sort of baffled me =)

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**Author:** ![aruvqan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aruvqan/32/2891_2.png) [@aruvqan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aruvqan)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/24 "2009-10-20T10:50:41Z")

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> [@aldiboronti](#):
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> I dropped into the thread specifically to mention _Häxan_. I saw it for the first time last year and I loved it. This along with _Nosferatu_ and _Vampyr: Der Traum des Allen Grey_ now male up the Unholy Trinity of early horror for me.

_sigh_ youse guys are making me poor, i just ordered Haxan and Seventh Seal from Criterion …

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 11:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/25 "2009-10-20T11:05:37Z")

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What, no love for _The Phantom of the Opera_? Then it is to be [war between us!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xREtUV3Fp-8#t=1m37s)

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/26 "2009-10-20T11:09:24Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> I didnt know Rick Wakeman did a soundtrack for it, George Moroder did one, which I have. A quick look at [IMDB.com](http://IMDB.com) mentions the Moroder version, an original score [IIRC mostly Wagner] version, a version that mentions only electronically generated sound effects, no Rick Wakeman. I think I have an extra copy of the Moroder one if you like, Ill need to dig around. I may not have the case for it any longer [I had apparently lost the case, and thought the entire thing was gone and bought a second, then found the original disc…]

There’s a group called the Alloy Orchestra that does live accompaniment to silent films. (At least they did, I’m not sure if they’re still active.) I’ve seen _Metropolis_ with them playing, and I think some of their work is on DVD.

> [@Quasimodem](#):
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> 1. My favorite, I suppose, is everyone’s: _Metropolis_. I have been meaning to get the Rick Wakeman “soundtrack”, but cannot seem to remember to look for it. I was hoping to find a used version on Amazon.

In case you hadn’t heard, at its premiere in 1927, the film was 153 minutes. For various reasons, it was hacked to ribbons over the years, and whole sections were thought to be lost. A 75th anniversary restoration used all the known footage, plus some stills and descriptions to try to bridge the gaps in the story. That version was still 124 minutes, and it looked like it was all we were ever going to have. But a print was found last year in Buenos Aires. One site I read said it was the complete version, but that some small parts are too degraded to be usable. It’s being restored and preserved, and should be out sometime next year.

I’ll be there.

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As for the music, when the sound was introduced in the twenties it wasn’t applied to all films immediately. Sometimes there would be a prerecorded score, when the movie wasn’t recorded with sound (or if only part of it had been recorded with sound).

Can’t really think of an example though.

(On a technical note, one of the early sound systems was vitaphone, which used sound on seperate discs. This is where the record speed of 33 1/3 originated. The system was good in terms of audio fidelity, but had the disadvantage that a number of films now survive without the recorded soundtrack, because there are no records left; or the soundtrack discs survive without picture, because the film itself was lost.)

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My high-school German teacher brought in all the _Dr. Mabuse_ films, plus _M_ and some other German Impressionist stuff. By the time I was a senior, there were only five of us in the class, so it was pretty cozy.

Oh, and I’ve mentioned it before: The silent Japanese films with Sessue Hayakawa. Hubba-hubba.

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**Post date:** [October 20, 2009, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/29 "2009-10-20T16:28:14Z")

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> [@aruvqan](#):
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> You should try [Dr Mabuse, der Spieler, ein Bild der Zeit](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0013086/) I just picked it up a month or 2 ago, as I really liked [M](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0022100/) which led me to [Das Testement des Dr Mabuse](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023563/) All 3 are Fritz Lang, and sort of in the same ‘universe’ - some of the cast are the same in all 3 movies [Frohman the homicide inspector is one of my favorite movie characters]

Yeah, I’ve seen the Mabuse films and they’re quite good, but I have to admit that–_Metropolis_ aside–I generally prefer the American Lang noirs to the German films. _M_, of course, is a classic, but so much of his stuff from the US period (_Scarlet Street, While the City Sleeps, Fury, You Only Live Once, The Big Heat_) is brilliant, complex, and criminally underrated.

> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> What, no love for The Phantom of the Opera? Then it is to be war between us!

I should’ve included a Chaney in my list, so I’d have to pick [this one](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0014972/) as my absolute favorite.

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> There’s a group called the Alloy Orchestra that does live accompaniment to silent films. (At least they did, I’m not sure if they’re still active.) I’ve seen _Metropolis_ with them playing, and I think some of their work is on DVD.

My favorite was the Club Foot Orchestra, who also did a [marvelous score](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_cBzuFyx-c) for the Lang.

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> [@](#):
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> My favorite, I suppose, is everyone’s: Metropolis. I have been meaning to get the Rick Wakeman “soundtrack”, but cannot seem to remember to look for it. I was hoping to find a used version on Amazon.

As pointed out above, Giorgio Moroder (and a lot of people he asked) did a score for Metropolis. Rick Wakeman didn’t (I’m a big fan of his) I think you’re confusing Metropolis with _Phantom of the Opera_, which he DID do a score for. And bitterly disappointing it was, too. When I heard he was going to do it, I eagerly went to the theater. Having heatrd Wakeman’s _Judas Iscariot_ cut from _criminal Record_, I knew he could produce the sounds of a psychotic organist.

But the score for Phantom was _AWFUL!!!_ I hated it, and never watched it again.

on the other hand, although it’s generally reviled, I love Morodor and company’s score for _Metropolis_. I have it on VHS, and have recently dubbed it to DVD. There is a recording of the score available, but it’s significantly different from the one used for the movie.  
incidentally, Moroder’s print of the film was far superior to all the others available, except for the relatively rare Kino version. Now that Metropolis has been “restored”, that version is the best one you can get. It avoids Moroder’s tinting (which purists disdain). In addition, although Moroder added lots of lost footage, he a ctually cut other footage out to keep the running time at 89 minutes. I still love his version, though.

What really got me into silent films were the recent restorations, some of them only available on DVD.Besides **Metropolis** , there’s:  
**Phantom of the Opera** – the two-disc set features not only the restored Technicolor “Bal Masque” sequence, but also the Phantom’s red cape on the rooftop. It also has the original, pre-color 1925 version, which I had never seen before. It also features lost and excised scenes and the remaining _sound_ recordings from the 1929 release.

\*\* The Lost World\*\* – about ten years ago it was restored to 95% of its original length, using seven different versions. Infinitely better than any version I’d seen previously. A surprising number of effects shots had been excised, and the many cuts that were made interrupted the story. The disc has comments by the guy who wrote the annotations to **the Annotated Lost World** , which is a great companion.  
**Nosferatu** – a complete restoration still hasn’t been released, despite what the box says, but the latest version is still a lot better than what we had previously.  
**Ben Hur** – with Technicolor sequences!

**The Works of Winsor McCay** – superb and complete collection of the work of this animation pioneer. His first work has had the hand-applied coloring restored, and it looks gorgeous.

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> There’s a group called the Alloy Orchestra that does live accompaniment to silent films. (At least they did, I’m not sure if they’re still active.) I’ve seen _Metropolis_ with them playing, and I think some of their work is on DVD.
> 
> In case you hadn’t heard, at its premiere in 1927, the film was 153 minutes. For various reasons, it was hacked to ribbons over the years, and whole sections were thought to be lost. A 75th anniversary restoration used all the known footage, plus some stills and descriptions to try to bridge the gaps in the story. That version was still 124 minutes, and it looked like it was all we were ever going to have. But a print was found last year in Buenos Aires. One site I read said it was the complete version, but that some small parts are too degraded to be usable. It’s being restored and preserved, and should be out sometime next year.
> 
> I’ll be there.

It’s a funny story. That copy had actually been shown to audiences in South America a few times. I think that was how it eventually transpired that it was even longer than the longest restoration so far.  
What’s more, after this became known, a \*second \*complete copy turned up as well! That one was a 9.5 mm film, what we would call a lower resolution, but still.

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I just watched Henry King’s _Tol’able David_, recently issued on DVD for the first time. It was surprisingly good. Something of a melodrama, but the acting was far more naturalistic, for the most part–until the melodrama really kicks in–than you’d expect from a 1921 silent. Richard Barthelmess, in the title role, was incredibly appealing, which went a long way toward tempering the melodrama. And the violence was very real, pretty disturbing; the bad guys weren’t simply mustache twirlers, they were _bad_, underscore,\* guys\*.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 2:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/34 "2009-10-21T02:14:02Z")

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What’s incredible with _The General_ and many other films is realizing that there’s very little trick photography used or body doubles: all that is Buster Keaton, and many of those stunts were dangerous. Incredible artist.

Similarly amazing is the sets for some of the epics, particularly Griffith’s INTOLERANCE. No trick photography: those buildings were _there_! That awesome shot of Babylon that ends with the zooming in on the birds was built on a 1:1 scale, and ditto Paris and the other scenes. There were also extras in _Birth of a Nation_ who really were present at Lincoln’s assassination and advisors who fought in the Civil War.

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> There’s a group called the Alloy Orchestra that does live accompaniment to silent films. (At least they did, I’m not sure if they’re still active.) I’ve seen _Metropolis_ with them playing, and I think some of their work is on DVD.

Also: Paragon Ragtime Orchestra’s fantastic silent film programs; we have seen them accompany _The Mark of Zorro_, and you can buy the DVD with them doing the soundtrack. [Go see them!](http://www.paragonragtime.com/events.html) Plus the [Beau Hunks](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Beau_Hunks), a Dutch group that do Little Rascals and Laurel and Hardy music. Not all silent, but all delightful.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/36 "2009-10-21T13:50:57Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> What’s incredible with _The General_ and many other films is realizing that there’s very little trick photography used or body doubles: all that is Buster Keaton, and many of those stunts were dangerous. Incredible artist.
> 
> Similarly amazing is the sets for some of the epics, particularly Griffith’s INTOLERANCE. No trick photography: those buildings were _there_! That awesome shot of Babylon that ends with the zooming in on the birds was built on a 1:1 scale, and ditto Paris and the other scenes. There were also extras in _Birth of a Nation_ who really were present at Lincoln’s assassination and advisors who fought in the Civil War.

The funny thing is that in _The General_ they throw trains off bridges into rivers, cling like monkeys to cow-catchers, jump around between moving locomotives, etc., and evidently the most dangerous stunt that worried the train people the most is that hilarious shot of Keaton sitting on the arm-thing of the locomotive wheels as it slowly moves him up and down and drives away - it’s evidently really, really hard to drive a steam locomotive precisely enough to do that safely.

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> The funny thing is that in _The General_ they throw trains off bridges into rivers, cling like monkeys to cow-catchers, jump around between moving locomotives, etc., and evidently the most dangerous stunt that worried the train people the most is that hilarious shot of Keaton sitting on the arm-thing of the locomotive wheels as it slowly moves him up and down and drives away - it’s evidently really, really hard to drive a steam locomotive precisely enough to do that safely.

That’s called a side rod and yeah, you’d have a hard time talking me into duplicating the feat. I wouldn’t be too keen on the pilot (cowcatcher) stunts, either.

For the railroad scenes, the movie company bought a logging road in Oregon that was going defunct, and basically trashed it. I particularly love the scene where he’s fussing with the fire, totally oblivious to whole armies marching behind him. Only Keaton would use the CSA _and_ the GAR as a foil.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/38 "2009-10-21T21:34:22Z")

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> [@DesertDog](#):
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> For the railroad scenes, the movie company bought a logging road in Oregon that was going defunct, and basically trashed it. I particularly love the scene where he’s fussing with the fire, totally oblivious to whole armies marching behind him. Only Keaton would use the CSA _and_ the GAR as a foil.

That train engine going in the river was the most expensive film shot up to that time. The film was apparently also impressive for being one of the most accurate in civil war soldiers’ uniforms and overall outfitting, but I wouldn’t know - I’ll defer to one of our historians.

I’ll stick up for Chaplin - **The Kid** , **The Gold Rush** , **The Circus** , and **City Lights** are all great. I love them and I’m not ashamed.

Nobody’s mentioned (or I missed it) **The Phantom of the Opera** and **The Hunchback of Notre Dame** - two more greats.

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/39 "2009-10-21T22:56:04Z")

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> [@Ranchoth](#):
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> What, no love for _The Phantom of the Opera_? Then it is to be [war between us!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xREtUV3Fp-8#t=1m37s)

Be at the restored Plaza Theater in downtown El Paso October 29th. 7:00 p.m.  
$5 admission. Music from the mighty Wurlitzer Organ.  
And if you’re into more information than you really wanted to know about silents, get “The Parade’s Gone By” by Kevin Brownlow

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**Post date:** [October 21, 2009, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-become-a-fan-of-silent-movies/514389/40 "2009-10-21T23:20:18Z")

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I really miss Eve … especially in threads like this…

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