# I have caved. We have ordered the complete Buffy

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [January 3, 2007, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509 "2007-01-03T04:09:59Z")\
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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509/41 "2007-01-05T02:02:40Z")

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To me, that was the genius of it. Totally “WTF?” for a good 4 episodes, trying to figure out what was going on. Then it was explained, and it all fit. Beautiful.

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**Author:** ![Selkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbce88/32.png) [@Selkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Selkie)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509/42 "2007-01-05T02:58:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Otto]  
Definitely the best portrayal of the character arc from wimpy abject failure to badass abject failure I’ve ever seen.  
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Did you just call **my** badass Wesley a failure?! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509/43 "2007-01-05T13:58:21Z")

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Oh, dear. Don’t fight, now.

I have discussed getting _Angel_ with Mr. Lissar. We’re going to wait until we’re in the four season. Probably this summer. Maybe we’ll rent, first. How much is the complete _Angel_?

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**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509/44 "2007-01-05T18:32:00Z")

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[QUOTE=Selkie]  
Did you just call **my** badass Wesley a failure?!  
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Damn straight. He was a failure as a Watcher, he was a failure as a rogue demon hunter, he was competent as part of Angel’s crew but ultimately a failure for reasons I shall not spoil for those who haven’t seen it, he failed Fred, he failed Lilah, he failed Angel again in later seasons in ways that I shall again not spoil and he apparently failed his father back in the day.

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**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509/45 "2007-01-05T18:51:59Z")

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[QUOTE=sturmhauke]  
Unprecedented, maybe, but brilliant? I don’t think so.

Let’s add a brand new teenage sister to the Slayer’s family and see if anyone notices!

My first time through, my reaction was, “What the hell is this crap?” That reaction never really went away.  
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“Let’s see if anyone notices”? Well, of COURSE we would notice, and we would wonder what was going on, and if Joss Whedon had lost his mind, and so forth… until it eventually all made sense. Which, mostly, it did.

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**Author:** ![JohnM](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/848f3c/32.png) [@JohnM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnM)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509/46 "2007-01-05T19:27:37Z")

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This thread made me do a bad thing, credit-card-wise. I went to Barnes and Noble last night and took advantage of their “Buy one TV box, get one free” and finally picked up all of Angel.

**Lissla Lissar** , using our Barnes and Noble membership discount, I paid $110 for all five seasons of Angel plus season 8 of The Simpsons.

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**Author:** ![Bridget\_Burke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7cd45c/32.png) [@Bridget\_Burke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bridget_Burke)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 7:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509/47 "2007-01-05T19:30:57Z")

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[QUOTE=riker1384]  
I followed it from the second season until I stopped during the sixth. I watched the finale though, and then I went through the series about twice in reruns. I just got to the end of Angel on DVDs. I’ve though about getting the Buffy DVDs but I wonder if it will be the same now that I’m not really a teenager, and if I’ll just get upset that the actresses are all married and whatnot.  
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I came late to Buffy & nabbed the Chosen set the minute it appeared. My teenage years are long, long ago.

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**Author:** ![Lissla\_Lissar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8491ac/32.png) [@Lissla\_Lissar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lissla_Lissar)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509/48 "2007-01-05T20:19:55Z")

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I’m not a teenager. I’m 28. I’m quite enjoying it. Well, it does occasionally make me think, “Thank heaven I’m not a teenager anymore”, but beside that, no problem.

Err… I think I forgot the question.  
Sorry about causing spending, **John**. If you happen to be back at B&N, and spontaneously decide to pick up a _second_ set, I can definitely send you my address!

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**Author:** ![Autumn\_Almanac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Autumn\_Almanac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autumn_Almanac)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509/49 "2007-01-05T20:54:58Z")

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[QUOTE=Lissla Lissar]  
How much is the complete _Angel_?  
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The individual season sets for _Buffy_ and _Angel_ all just dropped to $19.99 on Amazon. Previously they ranged from $35-$45. I thought I was getting a great deal on the five _Angel_ sets when I shelled out $120-- then the prices changed the very next day. :mad: Also, interestingly, the price of the Chosen Collection box set did not change, so it’s now actually cheaper to buy all seven _Buffy_ sets individually.

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**Author:** ![sturmhauke](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e47c2d/32.png) [@sturmhauke](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sturmhauke)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2007, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-caved-we-have-ordered-the-complete-buffy/386509/50 "2007-01-05T23:10:05Z")

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[QUOTE=MaxTheVool]

“Let’s see if anyone notices”? Well, of COURSE we would notice, and we would wonder what was going on, and if Joss Whedon had lost his mind, and so forth… until it eventually all made sense. Which, mostly, it did.

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Obviously the audience noticed, but it took a while before any of the characters did. I wouldn’t have such a problem with it if Dawn were less annoying. Also, Dawn’s existence is tied to Glory, who is one of the most irritating villans ever.

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