# I have entered the bowels of Hell and emerged triumphant

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [August 10, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-entered-the-bowels-of-hell-and-emerged-triumphant/592228 "2011-08-10T18:30:14Z")\
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**Author:** ![Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/malleus_incus_stapes/32/3293_2.png) [@Malleus\_Incus\_Stapes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Malleus_Incus_Stapes)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-entered-the-bowels-of-hell-and-emerged-triumphant/592228/1 "2011-08-10T18:30:14Z")

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That is to say, I survived the Department of Motor Vehicles with my sanity intact.

Same thing, really.

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**Author:** ![StGermain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stgermain/32/2868_2.png) [@StGermain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StGermain)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-entered-the-bowels-of-hell-and-emerged-triumphant/592228/2 "2011-08-10T21:28:46Z")

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I went today to renew my driver’s license, because I needed a new pic taken (no test necessary). 15 minutes from start to finish. Yay for efficient and friendly public servants!

StG

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**Author:** ![zoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zoid/32/336_2.png) [@zoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoid)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-entered-the-bowels-of-hell-and-emerged-triumphant/592228/3 "2011-08-10T21:31:20Z")

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Illinois has gotten MUCH better. A trip to the DMV, while no picnic, is not the soul-crushing hell it used to be.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-entered-the-bowels-of-hell-and-emerged-triumphant/592228/4 "2011-08-10T21:39:55Z")

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I just got a new DL, and when I showed it to a friend last night, he said “You really look grim.”

“I’d been sitting around for an hour and 15 minutes waiting for my turn,” I replied.

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**Author:** ![Sunspace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunspace/32/1250_2.png) [@Sunspace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunspace)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2011, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-entered-the-bowels-of-hell-and-emerged-triumphant/592228/5 "2011-08-10T22:37:10Z")

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> [@StGermain](#):
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> I went today to renew my driver’s license, because I needed a new pic taken (no test necessary). 15 minutes from start to finish. Yay for efficient and friendly public servants!

Same with me! Ontario really has managed to improve things quite a bit in recent years. I remember going to the Ministry of Transportation office in their Downsview office complex around 1995 to get a vehicle abstract… that was nasty.