# I have lots of drugs and I'm wanting to get rid of them

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [January 23, 2012, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364 "2012-01-23T03:48:17Z")\
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**Author:** ![Eva\_Luna](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e495f1/32.png) [@Eva\_Luna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eva_Luna)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/21 "2012-01-23T18:18:49Z")

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> [@delphica](#):
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> I was surprised recently when I was at my daughter’s pediatrician’s office. I asked what to do with my old meds (my pregnancy was considered high risk, and I was prescribed a ton of meds “just in case” and I thankfully ended up needing none of them). I had asked because I was hoping the doctor would say to bring them into the office and they would dispose of them. But what she said was that she volunteers with a clinic in Africa, and they take unused meds (even expired ones, if they are recently expired) to use there. So hey, problem solved, I dropped them off later that week. So my advice is to figure out who you know most likely to be involved with a similar organization.

I did the same, not with painkillers, but with unused antibiotics - I turned out to be allergic to them after the first dose, but a friend’s daughter was about to go to Honduras on a medical mission, so I donated them to her. They apparently needed to be in the original Rx bottle.

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**Author:** ![JBDivmstr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b4bc9f/32.png) [@JBDivmstr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JBDivmstr)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/22 "2012-01-23T19:33:00Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> \*\*\*The best way is to throw them in the garbage \*\*\*…  
> If you really want to donate them, the best thing I can think of would be to try calling a women’s shelter and see if they want them.

(bolding mine)  
Actually, that isn’t the best way.  
Flushing them down the toilet or disposing of them in the trash, either way they eventually end up leaching into the ground and making their way into the water system. ☹

> [@colonial](#):
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> … Why not, if he needs them? I do not see what could possibly be wrong  
> with giving pain mediceine to anyone who is in pain, friend or stranger.

What can possibly go wrong is, if your friend is stopped by a LEO and found to be in possession of prescription drugs that were not specifically prescribed to him, (_ **especially** _, pain meds) he can be charged with the felony crime of possession of a controlled substance. (as some pain meds are classified as such) :eek:

> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> … It is, in Canada and the USA and presumably lots of other jurisdictions, illegal to do this. You cannot pass prescription drugs on to other people, and any shelter should be flat out refusing any offers. Do not do this. …

Correct. IMHO, the best solution would be to take them to your doctor or pharmacist, so that they can dispose of them properly.

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**Author:** ![nicole1912](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/9de0a6/32.png) [@nicole1912](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nicole1912)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/23 "2012-01-23T21:37:01Z")

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In France (and I think, though I’ve never had to do it, the UK), you take your old pills back to the pharmacy - you’re not supposed to just throw them out. Maybe your local pharmacy would take them back from you?

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**Author:** ![ladyfoxfyre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ad7895/32.png) [@ladyfoxfyre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ladyfoxfyre)\
**Post date:** [January 23, 2012, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/24 "2012-01-23T22:27:04Z")

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Two threads on the same topic within a day of eachother. huh.

Proper protocol for disposal of medications is to put water into the bottle, also some sort of solid such as cat litter or coffee grounds, close the bottle and throw it in the trash. This dissolves the pills and renders them unusable with the solid matter in the bottle. Do not flush them. If you take them to the pharmacy they will just throw them in the trash, do some variation of the above, or tell you that they don’t take pills back to dispose. If you take them to a doctor’s office they will just throw them in the trash as well, or tell you to take it to a pharmacy.

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 12:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/25 "2012-01-24T00:37:58Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> Do you know how many drugs there are? Have you tested them? I can assure you there are many more than 100 drugs, and the **FDA has not tested them.**

(from citation linked in #8):

> [@](#):
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> **The testing, conducted by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration** , ultimately covered more than 100 drugs, prescription and over-the-counter. The results, never before reported, show that about 90% of them were safe and effective far past their original expiration date

You original point of departure was that post-expiration date efficacy  
“has not been proven for _any_ drug”, and that has been falsified.

We now have in place an irrational system now where perfectly good medicine  
is being thrown away no no good reason, and that needs to be changed.

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/26 "2012-01-24T00:40:45Z")

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> [@Joey P](#):
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> It’s pretty well documented that pharmaceuticals are making their way into lakes and streams. IIRC I believe fish are showing up with non-negligible amounts of hormonal birth control and antibiotics in them.

I would like to have more of a citation than IIRC, both for the existence  
of “non-negligible amounts”, and for the unstated thesis that those  
amounts are harmful.

> [@Joey P](#):
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> Don’t flush your pills, toss them in the garbage or wait for a pharmaceutical ‘take back’ drive in your community.

[http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm101653.htm](http://www.fda.gov/ForConsumers/Cons.../ucm101653.htm)  
[/quote]

According to the citation, the FDA has not established that flushing drugs actually  
hurts anything:

(from link)

> [@](#):
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> “For those drugs for which environmental assessments have been required, there has been no indication of environmental effects due to flushing,” says Bloom (Raanan Bloom, Ph.D., an  
> environmental assessment expert in FDA’s Center for Drug Evaluation and Research) In addition, according to the Environmental Protection Agency, scientists to date have found no evidence of adverse human health effects from pharmaceutical residues in the environment.

Furthermore, the FDA recommends that 32 drugs be disposed of by flushing:

[FDA: Medicines Reommended for Disposal by Flushing](http://www.fda.gov/Drugs/ResourcesForYou/Consumers/BuyingUsingMedicineSafely/EnsuringSafeUseofMedicine/SafeDisposalofMedicines/ucm186187.htm,)

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/27 "2012-01-24T00:46:42Z")

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> [@ladyfoxfyre](#):
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> If you take them to the pharmacy they will just throw them in the trash, do some variation of the above, or tell you that they don’t take pills back to dispose.

I guess it depends on the pharmacy as to whether they take them and how they dispose of them. I know that a large drugstore chain here will take them and dispose of them for you. From their [web site](http://www.shoppersdrugmart.ca/english/corporate_information/corporate_responsibility/environmental_resp.html):

> [@](#):
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> Now in its fifth year, our Sharps Medication and Disposal Service, offered in all Shoppers Drug Mart / Pharmaprix stores, provides patients and customers with a safe disposal option for their expired medications and used syringes, preventing risks to patient health and to the environment. Items are then transferred from our stores in a tamper-proof container to be incinerated. In 2010, we more than doubled the volume of items being disposed of through this program.

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/28 "2012-01-24T00:52:37Z")

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> [@colonial](#):
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> … Why not, if he needs them? I do not see what could possibly be wrong  
> with giving pain mediceine to anyone who is in pain, friend or stranger.

> [@JBDivmstr](#):
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> (bolding mine)  
> What can possibly go wrong is, if your friend is stopped by a LEO and found to be in possession of prescription drugs that were not specifically prescribed to him, (_ **especially** _, pain meds) he can be charged with the felony crime of possession of a controlled substance. (as some pain meds are classified as such) :eek:

I believe I spoke with sufficient precision and clarity, but let me repharase  
for your benefit: What could possibly be wrong from a moral or medical standpoint  
with giving pain medicine to anyone who is in pain?

Obviously it would be illegal to do so without a prescription, given the anal state  
of modern drug laws. However, the chances of apprehension are close to zero for  
anyone who is careful, a level of risk not worth considering.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/29 "2012-01-24T01:22:56Z")

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Thank you for your replies. I honestly never thought about taking them to a pharmacy. :smack:

I’m trying to get into the habit of doing things legally, which is why I won’t give them to my friend. If there was a way to legally transfer them to him, I would.

Yeah, and we don’t want to have a DopeFest, as strong as some of them are, it would just be a DopeSleepontheCouchFest.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/30 "2012-01-24T01:31:07Z")

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I have a ton of medical supplies, heparin and saline syringes and some prescription drugs and devices that I am dropping off by the boxful Wednesday evening to a woman who sorts drug and medical supply donations for the following organization:

> **[Home - American Foundation for Children with Aids](https://www.afcaids.org/)**
>
> SIGN UP & STAY CONNECTED 
> HELP US CHANGE THE WAY THE WORLD TACKLES POVERTY   
> Give A Gift 
> Make a difference in the life of a

This organization is local to me and the woman I spoke to is willing to take everything I have. I presume she will take what she can and will properly dispose of what she can’t.

I ended up with so much to donate due to an overzealous home medical supply company. My sense is that the more they sent to my mother’s house, despite my protestations that we didn’t. need. any. more. medical. supplies., the more the organization was reimbursed by the government.

But in any event, donation worked for me!

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**Author:** ![mnemosyne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c4cdca/32.png) [@mnemosyne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mnemosyne)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/31 "2012-01-24T02:19:06Z")

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> [@colonial](#):
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> (from citation linked in #8):
> 
> You original point of departure was that post-expiration date efficacy  
> “has not been proven for _any_ drug”, and that has been falsified.
> 
> We now have in place an irrational system now where perfectly good medicine  
> is being thrown away no no good reason, and that needs to be changed.

In that study, the FDA tested some samples taken from specific lots - the results of that testing tells you that the lots and products in that study were safe 90% of the time, but says nothing at all about all the other drugs on the market. If the study tested Advil 100mg, the results say nothing whatsoever about Motrin 100mg or generic Ibuprofen 100mg made from manufacturers A, B, C…

You cannot extrapolate results on one batch/formulation and assume that it applies to all batches or formulations of every possible drug. Science just doesn’t work that way.

This is why we have the protocols in place that we have. You can argue that they might need to be revisited - and I’m not really against that consideration - but you cannot make blanket statements about the safety of all medicines in the manner you are doing.

You do not _know_ that most of the medicines that people want to randomly throw out are “perfectly good.” Lobby for longer stability validation studies, lobby for a different legal structure or method of transfer to needy patients…go ahead.

But do NOT make blanket statements that expired drugs are “perfectly good”. You do not have that information. The manufacturers do not have that information. The FDA does not have that information.

You are spreading some dangerous misinformation.

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Depending on where you are, [Rite Aid Pharmacy has a drug disposal program](http://www.riteaid.com/company/news/news_details.jsf?itemNumber=1420). I would imagine other pharmacies do as well.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/33 "2012-01-24T02:36:26Z")

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> [@colonial](#):
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> Why not, if he needs them? I do not see what could possibly be wrong with giving pain mediceine to anyone who is in pain, friend or stranger.

I do this too. I’ve had a couple of emergency situations in my life where I have had to ask someone for a couple of pills and other times when I have offered to share. A persons you can’t share drugs because that’s illegal position tends to become real flexible when they can’t get their tooth pulled or an emergency root canal for another 36 hours.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 7:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/34 "2012-01-24T07:24:57Z")

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> [@JBDivmstr](#):
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> What can possibly go wrong is, if your friend is stopped by a LEO and found to be in possession of prescription drugs that were not specifically prescribed to him, (_ **especially** _, pain meds) he can be charged with the felony crime of possession of a controlled substance. (as some pain meds are classified as such) :eek:

That’s why the friend does the following:

1. opens his medicine bottle (the one with his name on it)
2. puts the OP’s leftovers in there
3. disposes of the OP’s medicine bottle.

:eek:

> [@flatlined](#):
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> I’m trying to get into the habit of doing things legally, which is why I won’t give them to my friend. If there was a way to legally transfer them to him, I would.

Parole or probation?

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/35 "2012-01-24T07:39:26Z")

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> [@Maastricht](#):
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> In the Netherlands pharmacies are obliged to take in unused and overdue medication.

In Aus as well.

On the issue of sending drugs overseas esp. to Africa it is valid. There are many drugs that are fine beyond the use by dates and really unless someone wants to send them fresh “free” medication what choice do they have??

Hospital and health waste is criminal, did you know there is a use by date on tongue depressors? Really, why? Will the wood splinter and choke some poor bugger?

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**Author:** ![colonial](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/34f0e0/32.png) [@colonial](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colonial)\
**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/36 "2012-01-24T19:06:23Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> In that study, the FDA tested some samples taken from specific lots - the results of that testing tells you that the lots and products in that study were safe 90% of the time, but says nothing at all about all the other drugs on the market. If the study tested Advil 100mg, the results say nothing whatsoever about Motrin 100mg or generic Ibuprofen 100mg made from manufacturers A, B, C…
> 
> You cannot extrapolate results on one batch/formulation and assume that it applies to all batches or formulations of every possible drug. Science just doesn’t work that way.
> 
> This is why we have the protocols in place that we have. You can argue that they might need to be revisited - and I’m not really against that consideration - but you cannot make blanket statements about the safety of all medicines in the manner you are doing.
> 
> You do not _know_ that most of the medicines that people want to randomly throw out are “perfectly good.” Lobby for longer stability validation studies, lobby for a different legal structure or method of transfer to needy patients…go ahead.
> 
> But do NOT make blanket statements that expired drugs are “perfectly good”. You do not have that information. The manufacturers do not have that information. The FDA does not have that information.

Extrapolation from the FDA study in question may not be fully valid under  
strict scientific standards, but it and other testimony are good enough for  
the following august authority:

[Harvard Medical School: Drug Expiration Dates - Do They Mean Anything?](http://www.health.harvard.edu/fhg/updates/update1103a.shtml)

(from link):

> [@](#):
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> So the expiration date doesn’t really indicate a point at which the medication is no longer effective or has become unsafe to use. Medical authorities state expired drugs are safe to take, even those that expired years ago. A rare exception to this may be tetracycline, but the report on this is controversial among researchers. It’s true the effectiveness of a drug may decrease over time, but much of the original potency still remains even a decade after the expiration date. **Excluding nitroglycerin, insulin, and liquid antibiotics, most medications are as long-lasting as the ones tested by the military.** Placing a medication in a cool place, such as a refrigerator, will help a drug remain potent for many years.

Did you notice that _prior to 1979 expiration dates were not required_?  
1979 was not exactly the Dark Ages, and if there had been a real need  
for expiration dates I would think it would have been noticed and implemented  
decades sooner.

Neither the FDA or Harvard claim all drugs are good indefinitely past  
their expiration dates, and I did not either. However, in light of my citations  
I think it reasonable to stand on what I said before, namely, that perfectly  
good medicine _is_ being thrown away for no good reason. and that it would  
do the patients of the world much good if the present irrational system  
were overhauled.

> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> You are spreading some dangerous misinformation.

Kindly address your concerns to the Harvard Medical School. There is a  
“Contact Us” menu option in the upper right of the link I provided.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/37 "2012-01-24T21:49:32Z")

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The system needs to be overhauled - fine, I don’t disagree with that. The issue remains… how long is ok for you? 3 years? 5? 10? 100? Someone needs to collect that data, because there will be a time when a drug will no longer be good. For some drugs, that time will be sooner rather than later. At the moment, no one is collecting that data, because there is no need to. Be prepared to pay more for drugs, though, because long-term stability studies and facilities are very expensive.

“Strict scientific standards”, however, are the only thing we have - if we do not adhere to them, we cannot trust any product that comes out of a drug manufacturer.

Do the research. Collect the data. Set expiration dates accordingly, as many years into the future as you want

Do NOT go around claiming that “most drugs are good past the studied date, so go ahead and take them” until you have the information to support that statement.

MOST does not mean ALL. 90% safe means that 10% are not. What are the ones that aren’t? How common are they? What conditions led them to fail? Are those representative conditions for household storage?

All you’re doing is giving me news articles summarizing the same information from the same study. You still have _no data past the legally mandated study periods_ to warrant making claims that random unused drugs in someone’s medicine cabinet are still safe years after their expiration date.

If you don’t understand the scientific process, do not make scientific statements.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/38 "2012-01-24T22:31:59Z")

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> [@colonial](#):
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> …  
> for your benefit: What could possibly be wrong from a moral or medical standpoint  
> with giving pain medicine to anyone who is in pain?..

How much other medication is the friend using? Is he short on pills because he’s been taking too many? If so, then your giving him the pills could indeed be harmful.

Pragmatically speaking, if you knew the friend, and were CERTAIN of his dosage and that he wasn’t on the edge of any kind of abuse etc., then the odds of either of you getting into trouble are reasonably slim. But it’s not a risk I’d personally care to take with narcotics.

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**Post date:** [January 24, 2012, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-lots-of-drugs-and-im-wanting-to-get-rid-of-them/610364/39 "2012-01-24T23:29:15Z")

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> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> The system needs to be overhauled - fine, I don’t disagree with that. The issue remains… how long is ok for you? 3 years? 5? 10? 100? Someone needs to collect that data, because there will be a time when a drug will no longer be good. For some drugs, that time will be sooner rather than later. At the moment, no one is collecting that data, because there is no need to. Be prepared to pay more for drugs, though, because long-term stability studies and facilities are very expensive.

Expensive? To store samples and then test them after a few years?

I worked in QA for a pharmaceutical company myself (bulky adhesive devices)  
and I can tell you storage would be no big deal. The chemistry might be more so,  
but we had undegreed technicians perform most of our wet chemistry, so I need  
more than your declaration that that end would be “very expensive”.

Also, we should by now, 300 years after Boyle’s day, have a pretty good idea  
exactly how well a lot of compounds are going to retain their potency without  
having to go through any testing whatever, and that includes compounds used  
in our medicines.

Finally, that $1billion that the US military was throwing out must represent a tiny  
fraction of the needlessly unused medicine worldwide, so there should be little  
doubt regarding the net cost-effectiveness potential of obtaining much later  
expiration dates.

> [@mnemosyne](#):
>
> “Strict scientific standards”, however, are the only thing we have - if we do not adhere to them, we cannot trust any product that comes out of a drug manufacturer.

Fine, we are off to a pretty good start with the FDA having signed off on those  
90 drugs the USA-USN-USAF had piled up, which, by the way, probably represent  
a pretty fair percentage of all prescribed medicine.

> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> Do the research. Collect the data. Set expiration dates accordingly, as many years into the future as you want

Suits me.

> [@mnemosyne](#):
>
> Do NOT go around claiming that “most drugs are good past the studied date, so go ahead and take them” until you have the information to support that statement.
> 
> MOST does not mean ALL. 90% safe means that 10% are not. What are the ones that aren’t? How common are they? What conditions led them to fail? Are those representative conditions for household storage?

I think we can assume household storage conditions, can’t we?

Also, I notice that refrigeration is recommended as a preservation method.  
That makes me wonder about the almost universal room-temperature requirement  
recommended for medicine, but I guess that is a topic for another thread.

Anyway, I have the backing of the FDA and the Harvard Medical School.  
Who do you have, Bubba?

> [@mnemosyne](#):
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> All you’re doing is giving me news articles summarizing the same information from the same study. You still have _no data past the legally mandated study periods_ to warrant making claims that random unused drugs in someone’s medicine cabinet are still safe years after their expiration date.

You think the FDA and Harvard University are both going to go out on a limb  
over something as basic as this? I don’t.

> [@mnemosyne](#):
>
> If you don’t understand the scientific process, do not make scientific statements.

How about you not giving us any more speeches about science and scientific  
method until you have provided a few scientific citations of your own?

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I should at this point interject that I have never been on the giving or receiving end  
of any unprecribed medicine.

> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> How much other medication is the friend using? Is he short on pills because he’s been taking too many? If so, then your giving him the pills could indeed be harmful.

Judgement call, Moms.

> [@Mama\_Zappa](#):
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> Pragmatically speaking, if you knew the friend, and were CERTAIN of his dosage and that he wasn’t on the edge of any kind of abuse etc., then the odds of either of you getting into trouble are reasonably slim. But it’s not a risk I’d personally care to take with narcotics.

Respectfully disagree.

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