# I have never wanted so much to laugh and bang my head against a wall at the same time **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 30, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802 "2006-08-30T16:43:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![FlyingRamenMonster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@FlyingRamenMonster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlyingRamenMonster)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/1 "2006-08-30T16:43:37Z")
I was surfing Wikipedia and ended up at the article for [t.A.T.u](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.A.T.u.) which said: > [@](#): > > Ivan’s plans were to create the group as an “underage sex project.” He admitted to UK’s The Sun newspaper in February, 2003 that his idea came from surfing underage porn websites and discovered that most pedophiles wanted underage lesbian porn. :smack: Just thought I’d share. ---
**Author:** ![Flea](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/d78d45/32.png) [@Flea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Flea)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/2 "2006-08-30T16:50:21Z")
Apparently, he knew his niche. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/3 "2006-08-30T16:53:00Z")
Well, he took his market research seriously, anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/4 "2006-08-30T16:54:55Z")
The scuzziest bit is this quote: > [@Perverted Russian Asshole](#): > > I saw that most people look up pornography on the Internet and of those, most are looking for underage sex. I saw that their needs weren’t fulfilled. Later it turned out I was right. This is the same as my own desires – I prefer underage girls. Yeah, _most_ porn surfers are looking for underage sex. Project much, mr Slime? ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/5 "2006-08-30T17:16:04Z")
I don’t know that you could necessarily say it was projecting. Of my entire sample size of Russian people I know, the one girl I know once told me about being a schoolgirl in Russia and having (adult) guys wacking off at the schoolbus as the girls got on. Russians seem to currently have some stress management issues, methinks. Of course whether that leads to most Russian guys browsing (the Russian section of ) the net for kiddy-porn or not I’ve no idea, but one can imagine that it could easily be much higher than the US. ---
**Author:** ![Autumn\_Almanac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Autumn\_Almanac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autumn_Almanac)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/6 "2006-08-30T17:39:51Z")
Eh, Malcolm McLaren did it already. ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/7 "2006-08-30T18:36:06Z")
[QUOTE=Autumn Almanac] Eh, Malcolm McLaren did it already. [/QUOTE] The Sex Pistols were fake underage lesbians?! ---
**Author:** ![Autumn\_Almanac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d26b3c/32.png) [@Autumn\_Almanac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autumn_Almanac)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/8 "2006-08-30T19:00:18Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] The Sex Pistols were fake underage lesbians?! [/QUOTE] No. 😛 Bow Wow Wow. Lead singer Annabella Lwin (did I spell that correctly?) was presented as an underage sex object through suggestive lyrics and imagery. She was the center of a planned underage-sex-themed product line to include music, film, and magazines. ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/9 "2006-08-30T19:18:37Z")
[QUOTE=Otto] The Sex Pistols were fake underage lesbians?! [/QUOTE] Yeah. _Bad_ fakes too. Didn’t look anything like the real thing. ---
**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 7:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/10 "2006-08-30T19:26:49Z")
Didn’t these 15-year old tarts have parents to kind of, oh, I don’t know… oversee the sexual objectification of these girls? ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [August 30, 2006, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/11 "2006-08-30T21:53:21Z")
English isn’t the guy’s first language; I wonder if he really meant “underage,” and not something like “barely legal.” ---
**Author:** ![PetW](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@PetW](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PetW)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 3:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/12 "2006-08-31T03:03:23Z")
I noticed there’s no source for that quote - might want to take that one with a grain of salt. ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/13 "2006-08-31T03:24:42Z")
[QUOTE=PetW] I noticed there’s no source for that quote - might want to take that one with a grain of salt. [/QUOTE] True, but I’ve seen similar quotes attributed to this guy in _The Prague Post_ and some other papers years back (about 2001/02) when t.A.T.u were first hitting the charts in Eastern Europe. From every article I’ve read and from my friends in Russia, Ivan is–well–a straight shooter, I guess, and has always been completely up front about what he intended t.A.T.u to be: basically, a fantasy teenage lesbian pop group. He’s been absolutely fortright and honest from the get-go about the fact he was expoliting the image. As far as I’ve always understood it, neither of the girls in t.A.T.u are, in fact, lesbian. IIRC, he even had an affair with at least one of the girls (the more loquacious, red-headed one.) Sorry, no sites, just general knowledge I’ve picked up. There’s little doubt in my mind that this guy means exactly what the quote implies. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/14 "2006-08-31T04:07:58Z")
When t.A.T.u were at the peak of their fame, I wrote a joke into my stand-up act. I was fond enough of the joke that I really hoped they’d be famous forever, so I could keep telling it, unfortunately they let me down. After about six months, audiences were no longer sure who I was talking about. The joke relies on the fun of homophones, so it doesn’t really work in print. > [@bienville in his Stand-Up act way back when t.A.T.u were famous](#): > > I found a porn site that claimed to have video of t.A.T.u having sex! > > You can imagine my disappointment when it ended up being Hervé Villechaize and a jar of Vaseline! ---
**Author:** ![Subway\_Prophet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecb155/32.png) [@Subway\_Prophet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Subway_Prophet)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/15 "2006-08-31T13:47:52Z")
Jeez oh Pete. I now need to scrub out my eyeballs. Why did I click on that link? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-have-never-wanted-so-much-to-laugh-and-bang-my-head-against-a-wall-at-the-same-time/370802/16 "2006-08-31T17:05:08Z")
[QUOTE=Priceguy] Well, he took his market research seriously, anyway. [/QUOTE] Yeah, kinda like Pete Townsend.