# "I haven't read the thread yet, but..."

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 2, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985 "2010-03-02T13:53:07Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/41 "2010-03-02T20:07:50Z")

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I haven’t even turned on my computer yet but since my opinion is so much more important than everyone else’s I gotta say that I am strongly in favor of rudeness and ignorance.

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/42 "2010-03-02T20:08:58Z")

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This thread is like a cross between **Dances With Wolves** and **Ferngully**.

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/43 "2010-03-02T20:16:24Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> I haven’t read the threat, the OP, or even the title yet, but I’d just like to say, you guys probably have it all wrong.

Er, “thread”. But if there was a threat, I haven’t read it, either.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/44 "2010-03-02T20:22:43Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> I am tempted, so sorely tempted, to be extremely pissy with people who obviously haven’t paid any attention to what’s gone on in the thread already and just jump in without reading first. It’s just such arrogant rudeness - it’s like they’re declaring, “My opinion is important, but no one else’s is.”

Re-reading this, I see I wasn’t clear - I meant people who don’t say that they haven’t read the thread yet, but obviously haven’t because they’re saying something that has been addressed already.

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**Author:** ![elbows](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b3f665/32.png) [@elbows](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elbows)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/45 "2010-03-02T20:56:36Z")

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“Here’s my two cents. Make of it what you will.”

Isn’t this just paraphrasing for, “This is what I have to say. I don’t care what anyone else has to say/has said, even if it’s exactly what I said.”

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**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/46 "2010-03-02T21:06:38Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> This thread is like a cross between **Dances With Wolves** and **Ferngully**.

You win the thread.

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/47 "2010-03-02T21:23:18Z")

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> [@Equipoise](#):
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> This thread is like a cross between **Dances With Wolves** and **Ferngully**.

This is perhaps embarrassing, but I don’t get it…

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**Author:** ![Rysto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ecccb3/32.png) [@Rysto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rysto)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 9:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/48 "2010-03-02T21:33:56Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> This is perhaps embarrassing, but I don’t get it…

WAG: I’d bet that every other page of the Avatar discussion thread had a similar comment.

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**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2010, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/49 "2010-03-02T21:34:09Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> This is perhaps embarrassing, but I don’t get it…

I didn’t get it either, but I wanted to read this thread a few dozen times before I admitted it. Make sure I didn’t miss something.

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**Author:** ![TommyTutone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c4cdca/32.png) [@TommyTutone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TommyTutone)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/50 "2010-03-03T01:00:58Z")

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> [@Starving\_Artist](#):
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> I don’t look at it that way at all. To me it’s more like a question has been asked by an OP, or a discussion is going on that you don’t really want to devote a lot of time to, and you’re saying “Here’s my two cents. Make of it what you will.”
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> Some of you people are way too tetchy.

My son likes to burst in with his opinion and/or comments without listening to what others have to say.

He’s seven, what’s your excuse?

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/51 "2010-03-03T01:06:29Z")

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I think the issue here is actually quite similar to when people open a thread, say, in GQ, without first having done a search to see if another thread answers their question.

With that in mind, before posting to a long thread where I haven’t read most (or even many) of the posts, I try to at least always do a control-F for the key words of my 2 cent contribution.

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/52 "2010-03-03T01:09:19Z")

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Not to be pithy (since I haven’t read the whole thread yet), but sometimes when I’m reading and posting from my phone and just want to answer the OP without reading through every 'dopers response I do this. Especially when I’m on the road or when I’m in an airport, sometimes I see an interesting thread and want to give my 2 cents worth (and a bargain at triple the price, I tell you!), so I’ll simply post my response to the OP directly, without seeing what others have written. Sorry if it offends…

-XT

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/53 "2010-03-03T01:43:56Z")

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> [@TommyTutone](#):
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> My son likes to burst in with his opinion and/or comments without listening to what others have to say.
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> He’s seven, what’s your excuse?

He’s 97.

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/54 "2010-03-03T01:56:05Z")

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I haven’t read any of this thread, but you’re ALL wrong. All of you.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 2:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/55 "2010-03-03T02:04:09Z")

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Knock knock

Who’s there?

Interrupting Cow

Interrupting Cow wh[MY OPINION IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN ANYONE’S!]o?

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/56 "2010-03-03T02:09:20Z")

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> [@Munch](#):
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> This is an extremely minor/lame pitting. I don’t have anything personal against Starving Artist, he’s just the last person to do this that has raised my hackles.
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> But [in this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12176386&postcount=58), 58 comments into a conversation in ATMB, Starving Artist pipes up with:
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> We’re 58 posts in. You don’t think your points might have been mentioned? What the fuck? If you can’t be arsed to read our opinions and thoughts on the matter, why the hell do you think your ideas are so special to merit our consideration? 58 posts is both ample time for one of your several points to have been raised as well as short enough to give a quick 3-4 minute read. C’mon - we can do better.

Oh shut up.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Bean](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_bean/32/1760_2.png) [@Green\_Bean](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Bean)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/57 "2010-03-03T02:17:24Z")

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I think it’s Rio by Duran Duran.

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**Author:** ![Dostoyevsky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b5a626/32.png) [@Dostoyevsky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dostoyevsky)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 2:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/58 "2010-03-03T02:19:50Z")

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Are the class of threads containing unread OP’s that are not members of themselves, indeed, members of themselves?

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**Author:** ![Indistinguishable](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/90ced4/32.png) [@Indistinguishable](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Indistinguishable)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/59 "2010-03-03T02:43:17Z")

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Not sure what you wrote there is well-formed, **Dostoyevsky** … what does it mean for a thread (or an OP?) to be a member of itself?

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2010, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-havent-read-the-thread-yet-but/530985/60 "2010-03-03T02:52:58Z")

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> [@Indistinguishable](#):
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> Not sure what you wrote there is well-formed, **Dostoyevsky** … what does it mean for a thread (or an OP?) to be a member of itself?

Substitute “discusses itself” for being member of itself. Then you get (at least, I _think_ you get, it’s getting late):

All threads either discuss discuss themselves or they don’t (e.g. _this_ thread discusses itself).

Okay, how about threads that don’t discuss themselves. Put all of _them_, and only them, into one big thread (cut and paste if you wish) and call that the ‘thread of all threads that don’t discuss themselves’. Does the thread of all threads that don’t discuss themselves, discuss itself? Discuss.

Or, better yet, consider a thread a barber. He may, or may not, shave himself . . .

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