# I haz silencer. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [January 8, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435 "2019-01-08T23:59:31Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 8, 2019, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/1 "2019-01-08T23:59:31Z")
After a nine month wait for BATFE to do what NICS does in moments, I picked up my Ruger ISB. [https://ruger.com/micros/silent-sr-ISB/index.html](https://ruger.com/micros/silent-sr-ISB/index.html) It is an integrally silenced barrel to fit the Ruger 10/22 takedown I bought a year or two ago. Although I didn’t get a chance yet to really wring it out, I did stop at my gun club long enough to run a box of CCI standard velocity .22lr through it. I was impressed. The only sounds are the bolt cycling and the bullets smacking the backstop. I foresee much fun. ---
**Author:** ![NanaMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@NanaMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NanaMan)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/2 "2019-01-09T00:52:30Z")
Congrats, sounds like a nice rig! I hope to do something like that before too long but the wait time is definitely a drawback! ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/3 "2019-01-09T01:03:46Z")
I haz envy. I would love to have a suppressor for my .22s and one (plus a 10.5" barrel) for my 9mm carbine. If I could just walk in and buy one I would have by now. The 9 month wait and hoops to jump through has kept me from pursuing it. There was a bill moving through congress a couple years ago to take suppressors off the ATF list but it apparently has faded away without a trace. [Hearing Protection Act](https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/367) [American Suppressor Association](https://americansuppressorassociation.com/category/2018-news/) ---
**Author:** ![minor7flat5](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/minor7flat5/32/258_2.png) [@minor7flat5](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/minor7flat5)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/4 "2019-01-09T02:01:18Z")
I haz envy as well. As a resident of a state that is absolutely not gun friendly, I can only imagine what it must be like to be able to go out back and have a good time plinking away at whatever suits one’s fancy. I like New Jersey for many reasons, and it is definitely a good place to live, but this is one activity I truly miss from my younger days. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/5 "2019-01-09T02:41:16Z")
As pleased as I am with the ISB, I don’t see myself buying any additional cans. They are at their best on low pressure, subsonic rounds. With mine, the sonic boom off a high velocity .22 is as loud as an unsilenced .22 rifle. While a silenced PPK or Makarov might be amusing, I don’t see it as being worth the expense of the can, the taxes, the threaded barrel and installationof same, and specialty ammo. ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/6 "2019-01-09T02:46:25Z")
Hey, looks like a fine and fun piece of gear (but waitaminnit, what’s this “just the bolt cycling and the rounds hitting” deal? thought that it only dropped the bang down to safe levels… ETA: ah, I see, lowpres ammo, of course). \*\*River Hippie \*\*-- hey, title it the Firearms Noise Reduction Act and I’m there. Or else I’m attaching riders to make earmuffs/plugs tax free and subsidize audiologist/ENT training. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/7 "2019-01-09T03:35:21Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > After a nine month wait for BATFE to do what NICS does in moments, I picked up my Ruger ISB. > [Silent-SR® ISB](https://ruger.com/micros/silent-sr-ISB/index.html) > It is an integrally silenced barrel to fit the Ruger 10/22 takedown I bought a year or two ago. Although I didn’t get a chance yet to really wring it out, I did stop at my gun club long enough to run a box of CCI standard velocity .22lr through it. I was impressed. The only sounds are the bolt cycling and the bullets smacking the backstop. I foresee much fun. So you don’t have to wear ear protection when firing this? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/8 "2019-01-09T14:31:23Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > So you don’t have to wear ear protection when firing this? No. The only sounds are the bolt moving, which is no louder than cycling it by hand when the gun is unloaded, and the bullet thumping into the backstop. It is quieter than the average air gun. Hell, it is quieter than my staple gun. [https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-5-in-1-Multi-Tacker-Stapler-and-Brad-Nailer-Multi-Tool-DWHTTR510/206604169](https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-5-in-1-Multi-Tacker-Stapler-and-Brad-Nailer-Multi-Tool-DWHTTR510/206604169) This assumes, of course, the use of subsonic ammo. Although silencers will muffle the muzzle blast from supersonic ammo, the sonic boom off the projectile may still be loud enough to require hearing protection. As I noted above, with supersonic ammo, mine is about as loud as an unsilenced rifle due to the sonic boom. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [January 9, 2019, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/9 "2019-01-09T14:48:40Z")
They are great devices. My favorite is a SilencencerCo Sparrow that I use the most. It fits 8 of my 22s. Easy to disassemble and clean in my wet tumbler. With subsonic ammo it really does approach movie level of sound. I have Ruger 10/22s and did not know they made an internally suppressed barrel for it. I did know they made one for the non-take down models. Have fun. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/10 "2019-01-10T07:46:18Z")
I want one, but don’t have anything that has threads yet (thinking CZ SP-01). I guess I could go the same option as the OP, though blasphemy of blasphemies I’m not a big fan of the 10/22. Mine’s been finicky. What did it cost though, besides +$200? ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 1:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/11 "2019-01-10T13:50:35Z")
After sales tax, it came in at a little under six hundred. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/12 "2019-01-10T15:11:29Z")
Do you have a link to the item? Can it be disassembled for cleaning? The core on my Sparrow gets pretty dirty after a few hundred rounds, but it’s easy to clean. one of my 22LR units does not come apart so I rarely use it anymore. ---
**Author:** ![GaryM](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garym/32/241_2.png) [@GaryM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GaryM)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/13 "2019-01-10T16:05:30Z")
I looked at the link and it answered my questions. ---
**Author:** ![Projammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/projammer/32/559_2.png) [@Projammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Projammer)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/14 "2019-01-10T16:30:28Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > There was a bill moving through congress a couple years ago to take suppressors off the ATF list but it apparently has faded away without a trace. It’s back. [Hearing Protection Act Reintroduced to Congress](https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2019/01/03/hearing-protection-act-reintroduced/) Fingers crossed. ---
**Author:** ![River\_Hippie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/river_hippie/32/26_2.png) [@River\_Hippie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/River_Hippie)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2019, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/15 "2019-01-10T23:41:33Z")
My one hope for the Trump presidency was that suppressors and SBRs would be de-regulated. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/16 "2019-01-11T01:27:09Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > My one hope for the Trump presidency was that suppressors and SBRs would be de-regulated. His personal history pointed towards his support of gun rights as just another lie. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/17 "2019-01-11T01:39:04Z")
> [@thelurkinghorror](#): > > I’m not a big fan of the 10/22. Mine’s been finicky. Forgot to address this earlier. I’ve owned a bunch of 10/22s over the years. I have a bad habit of giving them to mildly anti-gun sorts who I take shooting when they change their minds and decide shooting is teh aw$um!!!1! I’ve had a couple-three finicky ones pass through my hands. The problem is the extractor. [This bad boy](https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1004752735/volquartsen-exact-edge-extractor-ruger-10-22-10-22-magnum-mark-ii-mark-iii-22-45) fixed every one of them. ---
**Author:** ![thelurkinghorror](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7c8e57/32.png) [@thelurkinghorror](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thelurkinghorror)\ **Post date:** [January 11, 2019, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/18 "2019-01-11T02:07:34Z")
> [@Scumpup](#): > > Forgot to address this earlier. I’ve owned a bunch of 10/22s over the years. I have a bad habit of giving them to mildly anti-gun sorts who I take shooting when they change their minds and decide shooting is teh aw$um!!!1! I’ve had a couple-three finicky ones pass through my hands. The problem is the extractor. [This bad boy](https://www.midwayusa.com/product/1004752735/volquartsen-exact-edge-extractor-ruger-10-22-10-22-magnum-mark-ii-mark-iii-22-45) fixed every one of them. I believe thats the exact same one I bought, just need to put it in. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2019, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/19 "2019-01-25T23:28:23Z")
I took it to the range today, despite the 19 degree afternoon temperature, and played with it some. It really is quiet. POI isn’t the same as with the standard barrel. I will have to decide whether I want it sighted in with the silenced barrel or with the standard barrel. I am, all things considered, very happy with the gadget. In a better world, if you wanted one, you would just go into a gun store and buy one. ---
**Author:** ![MartinLane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f17d59/32.png) [@MartinLane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MartinLane)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2019, 5:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435/20 "2019-09-09T05:36:41Z")
> [@River\_Hippie](#): > > My one hope for the Trump presidency was that suppressors and SBRs would be de-regulated. Trump did not get my vote, but I had hoped for his efforts towards easing silencer restrictions. Unfortunately Trump has gone full retard with his 1st gun grab. I make 1-2 silencers a year on ATF form 1’s. That $200 tax is BS. 🙂 [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-haz-silencer/827435.md?page=2)