# I hereby pit the gang of hypocritical deniers "debating" GIGObuster **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 5, 2011, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hereby-pit-the-gang-of-hypocritical-deniers-debating-gigobuster/595281 "2011-09-05T16:32:49Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 72
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2011, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hereby-pit-the-gang-of-hypocritical-deniers-debating-gigobuster/595281/72 "2011-09-06T02:32:34Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > He is not me. > > I have no idea what the significance of 1998 is. I am not saying anything about 1998 or any other year. It has been a very common meme from the deniers that warming has stopped since 1998. TOWP claims he knows nothing of the sort.. When on his first post on the thread linked in the OP he spews several boiler plate denier points. > **[What has global warming done since 1998?](https://skepticalscience.com/global-warming-stopped-in-1998.htm)** > > \The planet has continued to accumulate heat since 1998 - global warming is still happening. Nevertheless, surface temperatures show much internal variability due to heat exchange between the ocean and atmosphere. 1998 was an unusually hot year due... > [@Bricker](#): > > I am just asking the simple question: “If AGW models are incorrect, what future event would show it?” At its simplest, the future would show that, besides not warming, it would cool down to levels like on the 70’s as the current evidence shows what the temperature should be with no human made CO2 in the atmosphere. Also the future weather events should not be different as the ones of today when CO2 is projected to double from 280 ppm (Pre-industrial carbon dioxide levels) to 560 ppm sometime in the next 100 years, (currently it is at 390 PPM) of course there are fears now that we could expect more than 1000 PPM a few decades after the end of the century as almost next to nothing is being done. > [@Bricker](#): > > Right now it seems to me that you’re trying to say that no possible future event would show AGW models are wrong, but without actually saying it. But that can’t be so. So… > > What are you really saying? 1. There are future events that would show the models wrong. Concentrating on 1998 is done to ignore the mess of years and data in the hope of getting a misleading cooling trend. It would be like a dowser complaining ad naseum to Randi that he found one of the hidden streams and Randhi should give him the price. “What about the other 10 you missed?” Randi said. And then picture the dowser trolling the Randi message boards forever claiming that his hit was significant. 2. Do not throw bones to deniers, they are not interested in the science but on political points and to forever obfuscate. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hereby-pit-the-gang-of-hypocritical-deniers-debating-gigobuster/595281)._