# I hope Boston wins the World Series

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 5, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748 "2004-10-05T22:49:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/1 "2004-10-05T22:49:05Z")

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so their fans can shut the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/2 "2004-10-05T22:53:31Z")

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What? And deprive die hard Yankees fans the opportunity to further torment the BoSox? Nah.

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**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/3 "2004-10-05T22:57:37Z")

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Ya know, on the one hand I do agree with you. Boston fans can get really annoying with all their whining.

On the other hand… Boston will NEVER win the World Series **EVER**. The curse of the Bambino will keep them just this far from **ever** winning it. Bwahahaha.

😃

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/4 "2004-10-05T23:03:24Z")

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It’s impossible for Boston to win the World Series. Can’t happen.

That said, do Boston fans really whine that much? They seem to BRAG a lot, which is kind of weird given that they, you know, never win the World Series. But I hear more smack talk than whining.

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**Author:** ![kevja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@kevja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kevja)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/5 "2004-10-05T23:11:20Z")

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I agree with RickJay. It’s more of a bravado than whining. Which makes their fans to be the most unappealling in baseball.

I wonder what would happen to that franchise and their fans if they actually won the World Series. Not that it’s going to happen, of course. But their whole “act” would change. I think it would be very wierd. They’d have their championship, but eveything else would be gone.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/6 "2004-10-05T23:24:00Z")

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Ah, the official whine-of-the-also-rans thread, just in time for the playoffs.

Must be especially tough rooting for a team reduced to looking up at Tampa Bay in the standings. 😃

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**Author:** ![tdn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/94ad74/32.png) [@tdn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tdn)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/7 "2004-10-05T23:42:31Z")

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Please don’t blame baseball. Blame the alcohol.

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**Author:** ![NDP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ndp/32/55_2.png) [@NDP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NDP)\
**Post date:** [October 5, 2004, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/8 "2004-10-05T23:47:53Z")

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> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#):
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> so their fans can shut the fuck up.

But you should consider that _if_ this ever happens, the lack of whining by Bosox fans will be more than made up by the whining done by fans of the Cubs (no championship since 1908 and no World Series appearance since 1945) and the White Sox (no championship since 1917 and no World Series appearance since 1959).

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/9 "2004-10-06T00:10:33Z")

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> [@kevja](#):
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> I wonder what would happen to that franchise and their fans if they actually won the World Series.

No clue about franchise and fans, but the city of Boston will be destroyed by pure acid rain if Boston wins the Series.

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**Author:** ![Kiros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/439d5e/32.png) [@Kiros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kiros)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/10 "2004-10-06T00:11:27Z")

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> [@Kel Varnsen - Latex Division](#):
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> so their fans can shut the fuck up.

Look at what twenty-something WS victories have done to Yankee fans - now, I don’t imagine we’ll be nearly THAT bad after we win one, but I don’t know where you think it’ll make us shut up, either.

I think some chanting would be appropriate for this thread, don’t you? Come on everyone!

LET’S GO RED SOX!

-K.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 12:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/11 "2004-10-06T00:19:56Z")

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Red Sox Rule!

For a Junior League team, that is. 😃

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**Author:** ![Morbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morbo/32/389_2.png) [@Morbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morbo)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/12 "2004-10-06T00:25:14Z")

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Bah. My beloved Cards will crush \<\<insert losing American League representative here\>\>

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**Author:** ![shamrock227](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@shamrock227](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/shamrock227)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/13 "2004-10-06T00:41:14Z")

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> [@NDP](#):
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> But you should consider that _if_ this ever happens, the lack of whining by Bosox fans will be more than made up by the whining done by fans of the Cubs (no championship since 1908 and no World Series appearance since 1945) …

I don’t know why but Cubs fans whining about the Cubs doesn’t bother me one bit. In fact, just the opposite. It makes me want to do something to cheer them up.

_Most_ of the Red Sox fans I’ve met are just downright obnoxious, _especially_ if they find out you are a Yankee fan :rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Mehitabel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Mehitabel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mehitabel)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/14 "2004-10-06T00:46:20Z")

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I just got off the el train, filled with happy Brooklynites and Manhattanites and Queenies and Richmonders going to Yankee stadium to watch the mighty crush the sacrifical team du jour. I got off at the last stop to see happy Westchesterians walking to the subway, having had to park their cars up to a mile away, to head south to the stadium.

Aside over. I lived half my life in Boston and am willing to give one of our usual Yankee victories to the Sox **there’ll be a change of topic up there for goddamn once!**

Grazie.

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/15 "2004-10-06T00:59:44Z")

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They can’t win. They just can’t.

You see, the Cubs? They’re cursed. Honest and true, cursed. But the BoSox? That ain’t a curse. That’s the ire of the Yankees. Have you heard the things they’ve said about A-Rod and Jeter? They tried to stop Steinbrenner from picking up A-Rod’s contract. That’s just wrong, to break up a pair like that.

And so, they must be crushed. Firmly. And so, the Yankees do so. Last year? The Yanks threw the World Series to the Marlins. Because they rotated pitchers just to be sure they crushed the Red Sox. This year? You seen the catches Jeter made? Unimportant game. But against the BoSox. They must not. Can not. Will not win.

It’s not the curse of the Bambino. You can beat curses. It’s the heart of the Yankees they’re fighting. And they’re just not good enough to beat that.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/16 "2004-10-06T01:58:28Z")

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I have mixed feelings about this now. I am a Sox fan, and I think I’ve been fairly good natured in my dealings with Yankee fans, concerning Boston’s inability to win when it means something.

I hope they win, like I said, becasue I’m a Sox fan. On the other hand, I hope they lose, just to piss off the OP, and make him suffer through another year of bitching and moaning from us. 😛

I mostly hope they win though, since I missed Haley’s comet. It’d be nice to see at least one once-in-a-lifetime thing once in my lifetime. 😃

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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 2:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/17 "2004-10-06T02:40:54Z")

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Casey, tell me I’m wrong about the curse. The Babe’s piano, for crying out loud. That’s not a curse. That’s being outplayed.

Now, a stupid fan catching a ball and the entire outfield collapsing? That’s a curse.

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**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/18 "2004-10-06T03:04:56Z")

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You know baseball players and their fans are superstitious and have silly rituals. They don’t step on the baselines, they apply pinetar to their bats a certain way, they eat a certain thing before every game (Wade Boggs always ate chicken before games, for example), etc. Fans have rally caps, rally monkeys, throw back opposing home runs. Hell, when my softball team wins, I wear the same t-shirt under my jersey (still looking for that elusive lucky t-shirt, BTW).

Sometimes they get carried away. Ruth’s piano? Bunk. See what good detroying the Bartman Ball did? But, if it makes the fans feel like they’re doing something to help their team win, then what’s the harm?

I see the OP’s point about obnoxious fans, but they’re not exclusive to fans with a B on their cap. Having spent some time in the right field bleachers at Yankee Stadium, I can tell you that they’re not all Boy Scouts, either. But it is ridiculous of me to pigeonhole all Yankee fans because of a few overzealous idiots.

Every team’s got some. Well, maybe not so much in Milwaukee. 😉

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 11:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/19 "2004-10-06T11:50:14Z")

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> [@Casey1505](#):
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> But it is ridiculous of me to pigeonhole all Yankee fans because of a few overzealous idiots.

[rant]  
Absolutely. Unfortunately, the squeaky wheel gets the grease:  
The idiot Harry Frazee who sold Ruth to the Yankees in the first place. I’d like to blow up his casket with his remains in it. :mad:  
Tillinghast Huston and “Bootleg” Jake Ruppert.  
Kenesaw Mountain Landis.  
Webb and Topping.  
That jerk Steinbrenner, and whatever wet rock he crawled out from under.  
If it had not been for the Yankees and their operatives in MLB administration, there would have been real competition in the American League–and in the World Series, especially between 1927 and 1964. [/rant]

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**Author:** ![Neurotik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/91b2a8/32.png) [@Neurotik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neurotik)\
**Post date:** [October 6, 2004, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/20 "2004-10-06T12:47:34Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> [rant]  
> Absolutely. Unfortunately, the squeaky wheel gets the grease:  
> The idiot Harry Frazee who sold Ruth to the Yankees in the first place. I’d like to blow up his casket with his remains in it. :mad:[/rant]

Blah, blah, blah. Frazee was one of the better owner the Sox ever had, and if it weren’t for Ban Johnson the Sox probably would have been OK. Chances are, everything you think you know about him [isn’t reality.](http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2004/news/story?page=Curse041005)  
As for the OP, the Sawx aren’t getting past Anaheim.

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