# I hope Boston wins the World Series

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 5, 2004, 10:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748 "2004-10-05T22:49:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/61 "2004-10-17T04:28:35Z")

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It is currently 18-9, Yankees.

… This is NOT A BASEBALL SCORE.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/62 "2004-10-17T07:37:02Z")

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This is about as much of a surprise as the sun rising in the East.

Well, I guess I expected the Red Sox to take it to Game 7 and then pull a hilarious choke job. But either way, choke job or four-and-out, the result is inevitable.

I love watching Red Sox-Yankees in the playoffs, because it’s just hilarious. It’s better than Seinfeld. Listening to the commentators blather about, well, will the Sox pitch Schilling in Game 5 or will they pitch Lowe, or maybe pitch Wakefield and then give Schilling two extra days then pitch him in Game 6 and then Pedro in Game 7, or blah blah blah. What DIFFERENCE does it make? Who cares who pitches? They’re going to lose. It doesn’t matter if they bring back Cy Young, Walter Johnson and Satchel Paige from their peaks in time machines and pitch them. The Red Sox will always lose to the Yankees in the postseason. It’s like listening to people argue about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titatic.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 7:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/63 "2004-10-17T07:50:13Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> It’s like listening to people argue about rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

About two thousand people boarded a luxury liner in 1912, that hit an iceberg and sank. Trusting you will do this. :mad:

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/64 "2004-10-17T13:24:27Z")

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Hahaha, this is fucking great. Nothing cheers me up more then watching the Sox go down in flames.

How will they choke next year?

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/65 "2004-10-17T20:19:43Z")

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> [@World Eater](#):
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> Hahaha, this is fucking great. Nothing cheers me up more then watching the Sox go down in flames.
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> How will they choke next year?

Who knows? Maybe they’ll start with World Eater. 😛

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/66 "2004-10-17T20:43:42Z")

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Today: Red Sox win 4-3 on a bottom of the ninth grand slam from Varitek.

Tomorrow: Red Sox win 2-0 behind a one-hitter from Martinez.

Tuesday: Red Sox win 13-2 with four home runs from Ramirez.

Wednesday: Wakefield comes in in the bottom of the 21st with the bases loaded and two outs, Sox up by one. One of his knuckleballs gets away, and an exhausted Varitek heaves the throw to the plate into center field. Yanks win.

How’s that?

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**Author:** ![dinahmoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/8797f3/32.png) [@dinahmoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dinahmoe)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/67 "2004-10-17T21:13:20Z")

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I was at the game last night. The Yankees fans that I encountered were friendly, polite, and pretty damn sympathetic at the end. I saw none of the venom and glee that people normally attribute to the rivalry.

I like to think that these are the people who love baseball more than hype, and are the kind of fans (Sox or Yanks or whatever) that I would like to be grouped with.

Still, it was a very, very painful experience. My first ALCS game ever, and this happened:(

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**Author:** ![High\_Cheese](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8797f3/32.png) [@High\_Cheese](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/High_Cheese)\
**Post date:** [October 17, 2004, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/68 "2004-10-17T21:50:34Z")

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From [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=271605&page=1&pp=50) and [this post](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5298741&postcount=64) inspired by [this article dated September 25:](http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/gamecenter/recap/MLB_20040925_NYY@BOS)

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> They just won’t be clinching the division in Fenway Park. The Boston Red Sox made sure of that on Saturday night with a seven-run eighth inning.
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> “They’ll get their chance to celebrate somewhere else,” Red Sox center fielder Johnny Damon said. “And that’s fine.”

Looks like the Yankees will be clinching at Fenway after all.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 18, 2004, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/69 "2004-10-18T20:02:09Z")

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Well, how do the Yankee fans like what happened at Fenway Park yesterday?  
So the Red Sox choke, eh? 😛

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**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/70 "2004-10-19T04:39:50Z")

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> [@High Cheese](#):
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> Looks like the Yankees will be clinching at Fenway after all.

Wow. Fantastic game tonight. No offence to **High Cheese** , but I think you have a heapin’ helpin’ of words to eat.

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**Author:** ![Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/aeb1de/32.png) [@Kel\_Varnsen\_Latex\_Division](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kel_Varnsen_Latex_Division)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/71 "2004-10-19T04:53:27Z")

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The Yankees are just being cruel now. But if Boston makes it to the World Series here is exactly what will happen:

It will be the bottom of the ninth in Houston with Boston one out away from winning. A Houston batter will hit a pop-up in foul territory that will hit the roof and be caught by a Boston player. Boston fans will be sure they won the Series and then…

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**Author:** ![World\_Eater](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f04885/32.png) [@World\_Eater](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/World_Eater)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/72 "2004-10-19T12:36:04Z")

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Damn you DIE, DIE already!

Bah

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 1:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/73 "2004-10-19T13:22:27Z")

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> [@High Cheese](#):
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> Looks like the Yankees will be clinching at Fenway after all.

Nope, at Yankee Stadium.

The two Red Sox wins are just more torture designed to raise false hopes among the gullible.

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**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/74 "2004-10-19T15:05:24Z")

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> [@dougie\_monty](#):
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> So the Red Sox choke, eh? 😛

Wait for it.

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**Author:** ![dougie\_monty](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@dougie\_monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dougie_monty)\
**Post date:** [October 19, 2004, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/75 "2004-10-19T20:10:15Z")

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> [@Jackmannii](#):
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> Nope, at Yankee Stadium.
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> The two Red Sox wins are just more torture designed to raise false hopes among the gullible.

Yeah. Ask the 1925 Pirates. 😛  
As for choking, I’d say the Bosox did a fine job of choking the Yankees last night.  
And I have a similar fantasy about Steinbrenner…

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**Author:** ![Quint](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/76d3ee/32.png) [@Quint](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quint)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/76 "2004-10-20T05:16:36Z")

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Wow! Nine more innings (at least) to go. I’m not really a baseball fan, but that is gonna be some exciting ball. If the Sox win, wouldn’t that make the Yankees the biggest chokes in Major League History? That’d be embarrasing for their fans…

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/77 "2004-10-20T05:19:45Z")

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Not just MLB history, North American sports history. No team in MLB, The NBA or the NHL has ever gagged up a 3-0 series lead.

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**Author:** ![The\_Raven\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@The\_Raven\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Raven_1)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/78 "2004-10-20T05:27:54Z")

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Howyadoin,

Fuck the arrogant, cheating, sign-stealing Yankees, how about Curt frickin Schilling? Gets meatball surgery on his ankle the day before the game and doesn’t tell anybody, tears the sutures and soaks his sock with blood, and goes out and throws 7 innings of 1 run, 4 hit ball. Brings new meaning to the words “Red Sox”.

Regardless of what happens tomorrow, this was one of the gutsiest performances I’ve ever seen. Talk about setting an example of what it takes to get it done. I’m just amazed.

-Rav

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**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 6:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/79 "2004-10-20T06:43:39Z")

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> [@Kiros](#):
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> Look at what twenty-something WS victories have done to Yankee fans - now, I don’t imagine we’ll be nearly THAT bad after we win one, but I don’t know where you think it’ll make us shut up, either.
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> I think some chanting would be appropriate for this thread, don’t you? Come on everyone!
> 
> LET’S GO RED SOX!
> 
> -K.

Wait a second. Not to take anything from the Sox, I am rooting as hard for them as anyone, the fact that there is even going to be a game 7 is amazing…but what are you doing calling the Sox “us”?

In case you didn’t notice, you live in a town with a team that has won a few World Series themselves, and until King Peter ran the club into the ground had the best winning percentage in modern baseball. You don’t need to identify with a perenial loser as “us”, you’ve got the real deal right here at home.

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**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2004, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-boston-wins-the-world-series/267748/80 "2004-10-20T06:53:54Z")

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> [@Weirddave](#):
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> In case you didn’t notice, you live in a town with a team that has won a few World Series themselves, and until King Peter ran the club into the ground had the best winning percentage in modern baseball. You don’t need to identify with a perenial loser as “us”, you’ve got the real deal right here at home.

That all depends upon when you consider “modern” baseball to have started. Let’s not forget that when a team moves their record goes with them (with a few exceptions), and the predecessors of the Orioles were the St. Louis Browns (boy, Baltimore has a thing for teams called the Browns, don’t they?), and they were the second-worst team in the American League throughout their history.

Truth is, taking the whole team history into account, they have always been perennial losers with the exception of 1966-1983 when they won a few World Series.

And before you get your panties in a wad, the same can be said of the Pirates, Steelers, and Penguins, perennial losers all, although the Steelers have been able to mostly shrug that mantle off unlike the Buccos and the Pens, who strung together a few good years on very rare occasions and were bottom feeders the rest of the time.

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