# I hope you choke on all that goat cock, countertop fabricators. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 25, 2012, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912 "2012-02-25T02:31:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Sitnam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Sitnam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sitnam)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/21 "2012-02-25T07:04:42Z")
Just like the Pitings mom use to make. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Kumquat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/4491bb/32.png) [@Gary\_Kumquat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Kumquat)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/22 "2012-02-25T08:28:22Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Maybe it’s so subtle that it doesn’t matter? Does your husband agree that the counter is a disaster? $1800 != “Screw it, I can live with it” ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/23 "2012-02-25T14:07:22Z")
> [@Gary\_Kumquat](#): > > $1800 != “Screw it, I can live with it” Exactly. I can live with it, yes, but not at that price and not with the cabinet damage that I’m going to have to spend more time away from work getting the Dirty Dozen to fix. I’m thinking that will be my offer to them - “Look, either you fix the countertop AND redo the plumbing NOT letting the sun go down on my house without a working sink, or you fix the cabinet and knock something off the price.” ETA - although I will always see the damned thing. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/24 "2012-02-25T14:24:24Z")
It certainly sounds like the installers were negligent, but I’d like to hear their counterargument. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/25 "2012-02-25T14:25:18Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > It certainly sounds like the installers were negligent, but I’d like to hear their counterargument. As in their argument for the counter? ---
**Author:** ![Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/4af34b/32.png) [@Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zany_Zeolite_Zipper)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/26 "2012-02-25T14:36:08Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Maybe it’s so subtle that it doesn’t matter? Does your husband agree that the counter is a disaster? You’re tying to get someone in trouble. “Oh it doesn’t matter if everyone on the internet thinks that dress makes your butt look like a baboon in heat, what does your husband think”. ---
**Author:** ![Dendarii\_Dame](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bbce88/32.png) [@Dendarii\_Dame](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dendarii_Dame)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/27 "2012-02-25T14:47:01Z")
> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#): > > We’re planning a spa bathroom for our basement, and I’m anticipating threads like this in my future, too (“It’s just a fucking TOILET! How wrong can you install that?!?” etc.). Oh, it’s possible. We found out that one toilet in our house was installed too close to the wall. When the toilet had to be replaced, there were difficulties. ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/28 "2012-02-25T15:21:29Z")
> [@Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](#): > > You’re tying to get someone in trouble. “Oh it doesn’t matter if everyone on the internet thinks that dress makes your butt look like a baboon in heat, what does your husband think”. Heh. He isn’t my husband until October, but he has evidently already learned to lie low to avoid incoming blood-flecked spittle foam. He came in, looked at it, said “Yeah, look at that - that’s off by a lot!” and then hid in his office hoping I’d get it all out by yelling at the internet. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/29 "2012-02-25T15:57:50Z")
> [@Zsofia](#): > > Heh. He isn’t my husband until October, but he has evidently already learned to lie low to avoid incoming blood-flecked spittle foam. He came in, looked at it, said “Yeah, look at that - that’s off by a lot!” and then hid in his office hoping I’d get it all out by yelling at the internet. Well, you know you’re marrying an intelligent man, anyway… 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Becky2844](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@Becky2844](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Becky2844)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/30 "2012-02-25T16:11:07Z")
This is only my opinion but…I’d make them fix it. Because if it were mine and I didn’t, it would be the only thing I’d see everytime I went into the kitchen…forever. Dammit to hell. (You cuss good.) ---
**Author:** ![Zulema](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/db5fbb/32.png) [@Zulema](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zulema)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/31 "2012-02-25T17:05:19Z")
When you pay a professional to do a job you should get nearly perfect results. When you do it yourself, that’s when you learn to live with it. We once went 12 weeks without countertops and had to send back three sets form two different companies. During that time the dishwasher hose blew off the drain because that connection was probably not supposed to last 12 weeks and ruined our brand new floor, which was discontinued in those 12 weeks, and we had to have the kitchen, living room, and stairs redone in the new model floor. Thank God for homeowners insurance. We paid for the first set to be installed and the sink didn’t even sit flat on the counter. My advice is if you don’t get results from this contractor go to the most expensive cabinet shop in town and have them order and install the countertops. You can still get the less expensive products there but their installers will probably be better and you won’t get as much argument if the product arrives warped or miscut. ---
**Author:** ![Renee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/renee/32/287_2.png) [@Renee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Renee)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/32 "2012-02-25T17:56:11Z")
It’s stories like these that make me glad we do all house remodeling ourselves. Yikes. So sorry you’re having to deal with this bullshit, **Zsofia**. Kitchen is looking lovely, though. ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/33 "2012-02-25T18:07:37Z")
Great rant. Looking at picture, what is the purpose of the drop in the counter right above the dishwasher? ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/34 "2012-02-25T18:08:44Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Well, you know you’re marrying an intelligent man, anyway… 😃 Well, he did try to claim that “cattywampus” wasn’t a word, or if it was it was such a precise regionalism that it was limited to our house. Don’t argue that shit with a librarian. I’m going home with photocopies from the Dictionary of American Regional English today. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/35 "2012-02-25T18:09:53Z")
> [@Folacin](#): > > Great rant. > > Looking at picture, what is the purpose of the drop in the counter right above the dishwasher? Oh, that’s another thing. For some reason the Dirty Dozen leveled my countertops awfully high, which means the dishwasher isn’t tall enough. I’m going to ask the flooring people to fix that when they’re fooling around with the dishwasher anyway. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/36 "2012-02-25T18:10:00Z")
> [@Zany\_Zeolite\_Zipper](#): > > You’re tying to get someone in trouble. “Oh it doesn’t matter if everyone on the internet thinks that dress makes your butt look like a baboon in heat, what does your husband think”. We just remodeled our entire house and nothing ever comes out 100% perfect. If you put everything under a microscope, you can find flaws. My wife and I did make them redo some stuff but we chose our complaints and battles carefully. You can complain about everything but you will end up in court and the construction will be incomplete. I believe **Zsofia**. I am just saying they are not going to happily rip out the counters and replace them at no cost. They might do it but there will be a major argument about it. A good threat to use is that you will post negative complaints about them on Angie’s List, Yelp, and even here (including their name). They really don’t want their first hit on Google to be “Acme Construction Sucks Goat Cock.” ---
**Author:** ![Svejk\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea666f/32.png) [@Svejk\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Svejk_1)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/37 "2012-02-25T18:18:03Z")
I particularly like the use of the word ‘cunting’, I think I’ll add that to my vocabulary. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/38 "2012-02-25T18:26:30Z")
Oh my god it’s going to be so much worse for those idiots because by Monday you will have practiced screaming at them. ---
**Author:** ![WolfpackJeep](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpackjeep/32/2921_2.png) [@WolfpackJeep](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WolfpackJeep)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/39 "2012-02-25T18:36:14Z")
What a beautiful rant. Does your local news station have a consumer advocate feature where they send a sharp reporter and a camera after businesses like your contractor’s? They would love to cover something like this. Cockbags! ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2012, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912/40 "2012-02-25T18:43:40Z")
This kind of thing is the reason I liked _Holmes on Homes_ (and his new one, _Holmes Inspection_) so much. Even though they talk all Canadian-funny, eh? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-you-choke-on-all-that-goat-cock-countertop-fabricators/613912.md?page=3)