# I hope your baby burns her eyes out **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 1, 2010, 9:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551 "2010-04-01T09:21:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/161 "2010-04-02T20:23:48Z")
> [@Beadalin](#): > > Jesus fucking christ, Frylock, give it a rest already. Just. Shut. Up. ??? I have refrained from speaking unless being addressed. (Or in one case, directly spoken about.) Seriously, check the thread. This began with a post from me that was relevant to the OP. Since then, anything off topic has been instigated by others. Check the thread, read carefully, see things the way they really are. ( **Freudian** , this is exactly why I wanted to just refer you back to the thread, you see…) ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/162 "2010-04-02T20:29:40Z")
> [@Apex\_Rogers](#): > > And what if clueless kid stepped in dog shit or has gum or other nasties on the bottom of his shoes? Have fun sitting in that mess, next guy! It’s a dick move to allow it, period. Ahaha… I shouldn’t do this maybe. Maybe I shouldn’t. I will. (Sorry, **Beadalin**.) Fact is, the kid in my story had no shoes on. Which of course doesn’t make anything okay. But it does illustrate the way that you guys have to _make up stories_ in order to justify recreational outrage based on a single manifestly incompletely descriptive phrase within a sentence about an only tangentially related topic. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/163 "2010-04-02T20:42:17Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Ahaha… I shouldn’t do this maybe. Maybe I shouldn’t. I will. (Sorry, **Beadalin**.) > > Fact is, the kid in my story had no shoes on. > > Which of course doesn’t make anything okay. > > But it does illustrate the way that you guys have to _make up stories_ in order to justify recreational outrage based on a single manifestly incompletely descriptive phrase within a sentence about an only tangentially related topic. Here’s the issue. You keep saying in ever-more-ridiculous ways that you are _not_ going to tell us all of the story, so why not STFU about it at all and quit giving a little bit more and a little bit more to make yourself seem fine, especially when you don’t care what anyone here thinks of your parenting. Why do we now need to know that the kid didn’t have any shoes on? Tell us or don’t tell us, but quit half assing it or giving us your Magic Unicorn Stories (this couch is for jumping!). I guess Tom Cruise would love to go to that doctor! ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/164 "2010-04-02T20:43:40Z")
All couches are for jumping, silly. Why do you hate America? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/165 "2010-04-02T20:46:32Z")
It’s because of all the stupid parents here, duuuuuuuuuh! ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/166 "2010-04-02T20:52:32Z")
> [@Beadalin](#): > > Jesus fucking christ, Frylock, give it a rest already. Just. Shut. Up. That would be super. Between him posting on April Fool’s Day and all the stuff he’s said, I think he’s just yanking us anyway. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/167 "2010-04-02T21:08:14Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Here’s the issue. You keep saying in ever-more-ridiculous ways that you are _not_ going to tell us all of the story, Yes, and if people stop asking for the story, or asking me to explain why I’m not giving it, then I won’t keep saying I’m not giving it, and I won’t keep explaining why I’m not giving it. > [@](#): > > Why do we now need to know that the kid didn’t have any shoes on? You’re right about this. I succombed to a temptation, just because it seemed so perfectly illustrative of the point that you have to make an effort to _supply_ details in order to form the judgment people have been forming. But you’re right–really, I should have refrained from saying even that, in order to remain consistent. ---
**Author:** ![BrightNShiny](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@BrightNShiny](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightNShiny)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/168 "2010-04-02T21:20:54Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Wait wait wait… you didn’t tell us _that_. I didn’t know it until I posted it, and this latest bit of info I heard fourth-hand, so I can’t vouch for it’s accuracy. He didn’t say anything explicitly racist to me at the bbq. I had thought it might be a possibility, but I wasn’t sure. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/169 "2010-04-02T21:27:06Z")
NM ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/170 "2010-04-02T21:58:15Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Are you joking? (Honestly can’t tell.) > > If there was a sign over the couch that says “This couch is for jumping!” then _still_ only a bad parent would let a kid jump on it? > [@Frylock](#): > > 1. It does not matter to me whether anyone here thinks it was reasonable Make up your damn mind. You lousy parent you. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/171 "2010-04-02T22:41:10Z")
> [@Beadalin](#): > > Jesus fucking christ, Frylock, give it a rest already. Just. Shut. Up. Seriously! For someone who doesn’t want to discuss a topic, he sure is discussing the shit out of the topic. I don’t know if you realize this or not, **Fry** , but you don’t have to respond to every single post here. If someone asks for more details that you don’t want to give, you can just not respond. Try it! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/172 "2010-04-02T22:54:02Z")
So **Frylock** , were his bare feet dirty? ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/173 "2010-04-02T23:04:45Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Seriously! For someone who doesn’t want to discuss a topic, he sure is discussing the shit out of the topic. I don’t know if you realize this or not, **Fry** , but you don’t have to respond to every single post here. If someone asks for more details that you don’t want to give, you can just not respond. Try it! Look, I know you’re not going to believe me but, I’m just trying to be polite. 😛 If people want me to stop talking about something, they should stop approaching me and asking me to continue talking about that thing. If they approach me, asking me to continue talking, and I don’t keep talking, that’s rude. Of course it’s rude for me to insist on withholding the details I’ve been withholding–but I justify that with the claim to be making a point. I can’t justify refusing to respond to good-faith posts asking me to continue talking about a topic, as long as I have no particular desire to stop talking about it. And I don’t. I also have no particular desire to _keep_ talking about it. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/174 "2010-04-02T23:07:26Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > So **Frylock** , were his bare feet dirty? Sorry, I shouldn’t have mentioned that detail then, and I won’t mention any more of them. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/175 "2010-04-02T23:08:49Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > Make up your damn mind. > > You lousy parent you. I don’t see the contradiction you think you see. One of the quotes talks about a hypothetical scenario I explicitly stated didn’t happen to me and my kid, and doesn’t attempt to elicit any judgments about my own parenting. The other says I don’t care what you think about my parenting. No contradiction, not even any tension, between the two. I admit I still don’t know whether you were serious: Do you actually think only a bad parent would let a kid jump on a couch when there’s a sign over the couch that says “This couch is for jumping”? ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/176 "2010-04-02T23:09:28Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > I also have no particular desire to _keep_ talking about it. I just can’t seem to stop myself! ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/177 "2010-04-02T23:21:47Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > I don’t see the contradiction you think you see. One of the quotes talks about a hypothetical scenario I explicitly stated didn’t happen to me and my kid, and doesn’t attempt to elicit any judgments about my own parenting. The other says I don’t care what you think about my parenting. No contradiction, not even any tension, between the two. > > I admit I still don’t know whether you were serious: Do you actually think only a bad parent would let a kid jump on a couch when there’s a sign over the couch that says “This couch is for jumping”? I think there’s no point in responding to absurd scenarios that we know weren’t happening. “What if by jumping on the couch he saved the planet from aliens, hur hur hur, would it be alright then?” Pheh, if you want to talk fiction, go post in Cafe Society. Here’s my position. You’ve told us you were letting your kid jump on the chair in a public office. (With shoes off.) I hear that, assess the probable scenario and likely reasons, and have arbitrarily decided that you’re a bad parent. I don’t claim to know _how_ bad; are you inattentive, does your kid have you wrapped around their finger, are you unaware that there are places where that behaviour is inappropriate and thuse are failing to teach that fact - I don’t know. Maybe you’re deliberately trying to train your kid to be a hellion; I couldn’t say. I just know that based on the (extremely) sparse info available, it’s reasonable to say: you’re not getting an A+ in Parenting 101. Suppose for a moment you don’t like me having that opinion. There are two ways you could try to change my mind. The first is to explain the scenario, including details that support your claim of not being a bad parent. (I franly admit I can’t _imagine_ what those details might be; but I’ll pretend for a moment they may exist.) If you did this, I might change my opinion. Your other option is to stand on a moral high ground of not revealing any info, and then insisting that you’re a good parent anyway, and try to defend this claim with a slipshod argument of absurd hypotheticals. This will never work, of course, as it’s daft. But that you’re persisting in it shows that you _do_ care what I think - at least enough to make a weak attempt to defend yourself. Suffice to say, it’s not working. Based on the available info presented, you’re a bad parent. If you’re fine with me thinking that, then we’re all cool. If not, you know what to do. Also, hot sauce! I would have let the kid bathe in it. I have no pity. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/178 "2010-04-02T23:31:36Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > I just can’t seem to stop myself! He’s just being polite! ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/179 "2010-04-02T23:32:43Z")
> [@Frylock](#): > > Sorry, I shouldn’t have mentioned that detail then, and I won’t mention any more of them. I’m just kidding. I have no outrage here, although apparently others do. You, me and the rest of us have successfully derailed a thread about toddlers and hot sauce. Go us! ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [April 2, 2010, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551/180 "2010-04-02T23:49:25Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > I’m just kidding. I have no outrage here, although apparently others do. > > You, me and the rest of us have successfully derailed a thread about toddlers and hot sauce. > > Go us! I’ve just tried to bring back the hot sauce! Go hot sauce! Roll the kid in a pile of shattered glass Tabasco bottles! Yay! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-hope-your-baby-burns-her-eyes-out/534551.md?page=10)