# I identify with Gimli. How about you? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 10, 2010, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256 "2010-09-10T02:22:09Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![choie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/choie/32/7829_2.png) [@choie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/choie)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/61 "2010-09-13T16:15:20Z")
> [@Oy](#): > > You know, I started going through this whole mental explanation of how they’re probably for sexual display, like birds or antelopes or some such Antelopes got wings! ---
**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/62 "2010-09-13T16:29:10Z")
Eowyn, no doubt. She doesn’t want to be pigeon-holed into tradional women’s roles and can kick ass. ---
**Author:** ![Oy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bc8723/32.png) [@Oy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oy)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/63 "2010-09-13T16:31:05Z")
> [@choie](#): > > > [@Oy](#): > > > > You know, I started going through this whole mental explanation of how they’re probably for sexual display, like birds or antelopes or some such > > Antelopes got wings! I like it. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/64 "2010-09-13T17:43:53Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > > Well, given my username, you can probably guess… > > Isildur? Nooooooooooooooooooooo! :: shakes mighty but anguished fist at **Skald** :: ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/65 "2010-09-13T18:02:39Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > > > Isildur? > > Nooooooooooooooooooooo! > > :: shakes mighty but anguished fist at **Skald** :: Arvedui, then? ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/66 "2010-09-13T18:03:38Z")
Good thing Gondor doesn’t have the death penalty anymore… ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/67 "2010-09-13T18:04:29Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > > > Isildur? > > Nooooooooooooooooooooo! > > :: shakes mighty but anguished fist at **Skald** :: [innocent face] Does Elendil have another heir I don’t know about? [/innocent face] ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/68 "2010-09-13T18:17:51Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > > [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > > > Nooooooooooooooooooooo! > > > > :: shakes mighty but anguished fist at **Skald** :: > > [innocent face] > > Does Elendil have another heir I don’t know about? > > [/innocent face] He must be thinking of Anárion. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/69 "2010-09-13T18:18:43Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > > > [innocent face] > > > > Does Elendil have another heir I don’t know about? > > > > [/innocent face] > > He must be thinking of Anárion. Anárion predeceased Elendil. ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/70 "2010-09-13T18:34:09Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > Anárion predeceased Elendil. Hmmm, good point. And Isildur was older anyway. Argeleb, then. ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/71 "2010-09-13T18:36:28Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > > > Anárion predeceased Elendil. > > Hmmm, good point. And Isildur was older anyway. > > Argeleb, then. I wonder which of us **Elendil’s Heir** will shoot first. :: puts minions in a defensive posture on general principles :: ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/72 "2010-09-13T19:02:07Z")
> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > I wonder which of us **Elendil’s Heir** will shoot first. > > :: puts minions in a defensive posture on general principles :: :: Runs into cover, shouting, “What about Eärnur?!” ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/73 "2010-09-13T19:12:46Z")
> [@Knorf](#): > > > [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#): > > > > I wonder which of us **Elendil’s Heir** will shoot first. > > > > :: puts minions in a defensive posture on general principles :: > > :: Runs into cover, shouting, “What about Eärnur?!” Good god, man. You’re embarrassing yourself. Aulë gave us shotguns for a reason. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/74 "2010-09-13T19:21:43Z")
> [@Chronos](#): > > I’ll just smooth over some hard feelings here by pointing out that Isildur wasn’t a Lord of the Rings character. He does appear in some [movie](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2RSnWqwpX0) scenes. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/75 "2010-09-13T19:29:19Z")
In the text of LOTR, Elrond also describes urging Isildur to cast the One Ring into the fires of Mount Doom after Sauron’s fall, and Isildur’s refusal. The putz. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/76 "2010-09-13T20:30:52Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > In the text of LOTR, Elrond also describes urging Isildur to cast the One Ring into the fires of Mount Doom after Sauron’s fall, and Isildur’s refusal. > > The putz. :smack: Fool of a Took! Nothing that happened with the Ring was Elrond’s fault! He was not a putz! ---
**Author:** ![palindromemordnilap](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/db5fbb/32.png) [@palindromemordnilap](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/palindromemordnilap)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/77 "2010-09-13T21:19:49Z")
Barliman Butterbur. “One thing drives out another” is a phrase that seems to apply to me a lot. ---
**Author:** ![Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/qadgop_the_mercotan/32/83_2.png) [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qadgop_the_Mercotan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/78 "2010-09-13T22:52:54Z")
I identify with the Gondorian loremaster who natters on to Aragorn about asëa aranion being the name for kingsfoil, or athelas, in the Noble Tongue (Quenya). ---
**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/79 "2010-09-13T23:09:19Z")
> [@Qadgop\_the\_Mercotan](#): > > I identify with the Gondorian loremaster who natters on to Aragorn about asëa aranion being the name for kingsfoil, or athelas, in the Noble Tongue (Quenya). Thread won. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Hamster\_King](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@The\_Hamster\_King](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Hamster_King)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2010, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256/80 "2010-09-13T23:20:57Z")
> [@Surly\_Chick](#): > > Eowyn, no doubt. She doesn’t want to be pigeon-holed into tradional women’s roles and can kick ass. My daughter called her “The Horsey Princess” to contrast her with “The Kissy Princess”. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-identify-with-gimli-how-about-you/553256.md?page=5)