# I just discovered the Firefly series, it's a gorram shiny show for sure!

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**Created:** [July 21, 2008, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210 "2008-07-21T00:53:12Z")\
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**Author:** ![brujaja](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4af34b/32.png) [@brujaja](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brujaja)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2008, 9:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/101 "2008-07-26T09:33:25Z")

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Actually, that makes good sense. What confused me was just that he didn’t appear to be floating _away_ from his ship in the final scene; I thought that Mal had kicked him in another direction.

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**Author:** ![Tenar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@Tenar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenar)\
**Post date:** [July 27, 2008, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/102 "2008-07-27T01:35:32Z")

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[QUOTE=brujaja]  
Actually, that makes good sense. What confused me was just that he didn’t appear to be floating _away_ from his ship in the final scene; I thought that Mal had kicked him in another direction.  
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I can’t account for the directional thing, but I always thought “Here I am” meant that Early always knew he’d end up the way he did, so he was kind of resigned to it and (oddly) didn’t much care. He was as indifferent about his OWN life as he was about anyone else’s.

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**Author:** ![Darwins\_Finch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darwins_finch/32/20304_2.png) [@Darwins\_Finch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darwins_Finch)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/103 "2008-07-28T19:10:48Z")

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[QUOTE=InvisibleWombat]  
The other thing they do is not poke holes in the hull of the ship.  
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Having just watched the series over the weekend, I’d say this was not a concern. Even Vera, Jayne’s biggest and most favorite gun, was not capable of punching through _Serenity_’s hull. About the worst that could happpen would be busting out some windows (as happened to the space station in _Our Mrs. Reynolds_).

[QUOTE=brujaja]  
Anyway, what an amazing script. All of them. I love the scene in, I think it’s Trash, when River observes a country dance, and then suddenly joins in. The music, the way she moves, it’s a beautiful moment.  
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That was in _Safe_. _Trash_ was the one where the crew meets up with “Saffron” again, and conspire to steal the Lassiter.

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> I just now finished watching War Stories. One episode left now, The Message.[…]One thing I don’t get, though. At the end of _Objects In Space_[…]

Are you watching them out of order? _Objects in Space_ is actually the last episode. _Heart of Gold_ and _Objects in Space_ both come after _The Message_, chronologically.

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**Author:** ![Hoops](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoops/32/6408_2.png) [@Hoops](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoops)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/104 "2008-07-28T20:03:50Z")

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_Objects In Space_ is a damn fine piece of work.

When I first saw it, I was charmed by the idea (later revealed to be a ruse, of course) that . . .

[spoiler]. . . River had somehow _become_ Serenity. Granted, running with the idea would have wrenched the show into a decidedly non hard-sci-fi direction.

But let’s face it: _Firefly_ was already exceedingly Heinleinesque; adding a ship imbued with the consciousness of a young girl could have put it over the top! [/spoiler]

And _then_ cancelled.

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**Author:** ![ExTank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@ExTank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ExTank)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/105 "2008-07-28T20:13:04Z")

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This thread caused me to break out my _ **Firefly** _ box set this weekend and rewatch the episodes again, and I noticed something i hadn’t seen before.

In _Ariel_, when Simon is looking at River’s brain on the scanner, and Jayne comes up and says the plan has changed, watch the image of River’s brain reaalll closely.

As Jayne’s telling his lie, her brain “flashes” briefly front-to-back with a pinkish-red color.

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**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/106 "2008-07-28T20:28:40Z")

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One other favorite little bit that shows up on repeated viewing.

In “Our Mrs. Reynolds”, Mal succumbs to the drugged lipstick. When Simon says he used to see cases like that back in the hospital, Jayne comments, “That’s why I never let them kiss me on the mouth!”.

And later in “Heart of Gold”, Jayne subtly moves his mouth away when his whore tries to kiss him on the lips.

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [July 28, 2008, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/107 "2008-07-28T20:35:21Z")

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[QUOTE=ExTank]  
In _Ariel_, when Simon is looking at River’s brain on the scanner, and Jayne comes up and says the plan has changed, watch the image of River’s brain reaalll closely.

As Jayne’s telling his lie, her brain “flashes” briefly front-to-back with a pinkish-red color.  
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_Nice!_

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**Author:** ![Tal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/54ee81/32.png) [@Tal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tal)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/108 "2008-07-29T21:10:38Z")

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Ahh… Firefly… people would call me obsessed. I’ve met Sonny - actually spent 5 days on the same cruise, he performed for us several times… I’ve also met…

Joss Whedon (1x)  
Nathan Fillion (3x)  
Alan Tudyk (4x)  
Adam Baldwin (1x)  
Sean Maher (1x)  
Ron Glass (3 x)  
Jewel Staite (2x)  
Summer Glau (1x)  
Morena Baccarin (2x)

also

Jonathan Woodward aka Dead Army Buddy (2x)  
Mark Sheppard aka Badger (1x)  
Christina Hendricks aka YoSafBridge (1x)  
Michael Fairman aka Niska (2x)  
Nectar Rose aka The Love Bot (2x)

Fun times! And not bad for someone who lives outside the USA

And for anyone who hasn’t seen Dr Horrible’s Sing-Along Blog yet, free viewing is available once again - see [www.doctorhorrible.net](http://www.doctorhorrible.net) for info

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**Author:** ![Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a88e4f/32.png) [@Eleanor\_of\_Aquitaine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleanor_of_Aquitaine)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/109 "2008-07-29T21:42:44Z")

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I just watched Firefly with my 12-yr-old a couple of weeks ago. He loved it, but he missed a lot of the jokes, particularly from Jayne. (“I’ll be in my bunk” went completely over his head.) Also I think Jayne confused him by not sliding easily into a good-guy or bad-guy role.

He doesn’t have much use for girls yet, but he was enchanted by Kaylee.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 29, 2008, 10:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/110 "2008-07-29T22:31:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Eleanor of Aquitaine]  
“I’ll be in my bunk” went completely over his head.  
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You speak as though that’s a _bad_ thing.

🙂

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**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\
**Post date:** [July 30, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-discovered-the-firefly-series-its-a-gorram-shiny-show-for-sure/457210/111 "2008-07-30T03:50:16Z")

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[QUOTE=carnivorousplant]  
You speak as though that’s a _bad_ thing.

🙂  
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Two fathers are talking about a sexy movie that just came out. One says, “I took my twelve-year-old son with me to that movie and he kept asking me questions about what was going on. It made me uncomfortable.” to which the other retorts, “You’re uncomfortable? I took my twelve-year-old daughter and she _didn’t_ ask any questions!”

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