I Just Discovered The Keystone Party- They Do NOT Have My Vote

It’s not meaningless, it’s just open-ended. Recognizing something doesn’t require defining it in law. For you two examples, the answers are, “Yes, you’re married to X and to Y, because you and they say you are”, and “No, you’re not married to a 12-year-old, because the 12-year-old isn’t legally able to give consent.”

Remember, I said X has to also say they’re married to you, and someone who isn’t legally competent to make such decisions could not, therefore, be married. So, X is too young, X is in a coma, X is senile, sorry, no (new) marriage for you.

Register marriages like copyrights. You can copyright almost anything, and the government doesn’t make any judgements on whether or not it’s a good book, just that it’s a book you wrote. If two (or more, why the fuck not?) legally competent adults want to register a marriage, then it gets registered. The only government intervention is in determining if they people involved are legally competent.

And note, we already do that with essentially every other legal contract in the world. If you walked into court with a contract saying I give you all my stuff, but it was dated on a day I was in a coma after a car accident, or something, the government would have no difficulty telling you to sod off, even if such a contract would otherwise be legal. People act like marriage is somehow fundamentally different, but that’s just an emotional response on their part. No reason for a disinterested third party to get all atwitter over it, though.

…and decisions will be made based on the registered marriage document, just like a contract dispute.

Sure, if you ask the government to step in. Not because it’s the Catholics Vs. Homosexuality, but because it’s “Registered marriage” vs. “Do your job”.

And note, I’m not taking “No Position” on marriage, I’m taking, “All consenting marriage is valid.” These guys are probably trying to be wishy-washy to avoid offending anyone, but I’m not.

So the government’s recognition of a marriage is binding on everyone else? It sounds like your answer is ‘yes’, but I just want to be sure.

I’d also be curious to get the Keystone Party’s answer to that question.

When I saw that it was the Keystone Party, I thought they were in favor of Pennsylvanian independence. Some points I disagree with:

Part-Time Legislators: We have that in Colorado so the only people in the Assembly are those rich enough to take off work for a few months. Not the citizen-legislature I’m sure they were hoping for.

Independent Redistricting: I favor true proportional representation in the House and state legislatures. All this would do is reshuffle the Democrat/Republican numbers and while better, doesn’t solve the real issues with our two-party system.

Education: Education supports society and as such it should be society agreeing to what K-12 encompasses. That being said, if you want your kid to be an idealogue (charter & homeschooled) or have the best of everything you can afford (private schooled) don’t expect the taxpayers to pay for it.

Victimless Crimes: Sounds like the same argument the Article 4 Travelers, SovCits, Moorish-Americans, Freemen of the Land, etc. use. As a society we have the right to require you to show you can drive before being on the roads (license) or pay for the roads you are using (registration) and that you don’t use public resources for your private use (poaching). The idea of victimless crimes does not mean that a specific person, sometimes it can be all of us in toto.

Overall a decent platform but what do they hope to accomplish by being splitter from an already third-party?

“Victimless Crimes”, however, historically has referred to “sin” restrictions. Marijuana possession is a victimless crime; prostitution is a victimless crime. Having a drivers license shows that you aren’t unnecessarily putting others in danger - I’ve never heard that as part of a “victimless crime” platform.

Political platform maybe. I’m referring to SovCit videos where they claim lack of registration & license is not a crime because there is no victim. I’d want to see how exactly the Keystone Party defines “victimless crime”.

You need to read the fringe Sov Cit guys more. There was one once that argued that driving drunk shouldn’t be illegal until you actually hit someone, since there’s no “victim” until then.

Sure, the same way the government’s recognition of a contract is binding on “everyone else”. If you signed a contract giving someone the exclusive rights to sell soft drinks on your property, that would be “binding” on anyone else who decided to set up shop on your site. No one would buy an argument that my “religious freedom” allows me to sell Coke and Pepsi on your property.

Most of these so called independent parties just serve to help the GOP by sucking votes away from the Democrats.

They helped trumpski win in 2016.

They seem like Libertarian Lite, softening the edges of Libertarianism with the realization that complete lack of government regulation and safety net leads to mass slums and a poisoned planet. Still some of their policies seem a bit naive and could use a slap in the face from reality. I am surprised that they don’t have a policy on their site regarding abortion. Given the rest of their platform I assume that they are pro choice, but I’m still surprised that this isn’t stated specifically.

The Forward Party has a position - Get Andrew Yang elected to something. Anything.

No thanks. I can’t wade that deep into the crazy.

If we elect him Assistant Vice-Chancellor of the chess club or something, will he shut up and go away?

Hundreds of thousands of Iraqi lives could have been saved if only George W could have been made general manager of Major league baseball.