# I just had a few LDS "missionaries" visit my house. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [March 24, 2006, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749 "2006-03-24T18:21:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![dangermom](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e274bd/32.png) [@dangermom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dangermom)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/61 "2006-03-25T16:34:33Z")
My SIL, who is Russian, took English lessons from the LDS missionaries for a while back at home (before she met my brother or anything). It’s not uncommon in some countries–my younger brother taught English in Korea on his mission (I have 3–this is a different brother). It was considered part of their service hours, so while they were happy if someone was interested in the religion part of it, it was no big deal if they weren’t. There’s a lot of demand, so they try to fill some of it, that’s all–I can’t speak for the JWs of course. My SIL rather sheepishly admitted that she had no interest in anything but the English lessons; I think she was a little surprised when my mom laughed and said that was just fine. ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/62 "2006-03-25T17:09:48Z")
> [@GIGObuster](#): > > Well, I did have them in one time… and yes, they were nice, at the beginning. > > They never came back after that meet, by the time we said the polite farewells, they did not look nice at all. In fact they complained later about us to the contact that recommended my family as a possible target. I guess they were not expecting a Latino family that knew a lot of “the rest of the history” of the origins of the church. > > If I have more time, and if there is an interest, maybe I will post about that meeting. Dad loved inviting JW’s in for a talk. After all, living in a different town from his siblings and all meant he didn’t get enough practice at debate. By the time they left, they usually had this glazed look in their eyes… ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/63 "2006-03-25T19:13:19Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > … the JWs, who would knock on my door at six in the fuckin’ morning on a Saturday. Personally, I have issues with the concept of missionary work to begin with, but mostly my problem is with missionaries going into tribal cultures and stripping the local culture and replacing it with their own. Like making the women wear shirts in the middle of the African summer because it’s apparently Evil In God’s Eyes to be topless… I dunno. The whole thing just pisses me off. Read the book _Things Fall Apart_ for a good description, if you’re curious. But my own personal experience is much like Miller’s, though I don’t remember if it was JWs or Mormons… but it just seems like most of the time when the goddies come knockin’ it is long before I’d have woken up intentionally on a Saturday. ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/64 "2006-03-25T20:08:37Z")
Don’t know what time you wake up of course, but they weren’t at your door, or Miller’s, at 6:00 a.m. But we wouldn’t want the truth to get in the way of a good story. ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/65 "2006-03-25T20:12:29Z")
> [@the raindog](#): > > Don’t know what time you wake up of course, but they weren’t at your door, or Miller’s, at 6:00 a.m. > > But we wouldn’t want the truth to get in the way of a good story. Nice of you to accuse me of lying, but I never said they came to my door at 6am. However, Saturdays and Sundays are the only time I get to sleep in. I tend to stay up until 4am or so and sleep in until noon, because the rest of the week I have to be up at 6:30am. I am of the opinion that unless you’re expected, you don’t show up at someone’s house. I think it’s rude to knock on someone’s door uninvited. You don’t know that person’s schedule or what they may be doing (sleeping? sex? whatever). ---
**Author:** ![coffeecat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/coffeecat/32/3405_2.png) [@coffeecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/coffeecat)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/66 "2006-03-25T20:28:07Z")
I got chatted up by a couple of LDS missionaries who looked like college coeds. I was all proud at first, like, “Yup, I may be in my forties, but I’ve still got it! The babes can’t resist me!” Then they told me what they were up to, and I realized they were just using me for my soul. Life’s full of little disappointments. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/67 "2006-03-25T20:45:59Z")
> [@OpalCat](#): > > Nice of you to accuse me of lying, but I never said they came to my door at 6am. However, Saturdays and Sundays are the only time I get to sleep in. I tend to stay up until 4am or so and sleep in until noon, because the rest of the week I have to be up at 6:30am. > > I am of the opinion that unless you’re expected, you don’t show up at someone’s house. I think it’s rude to knock on someone’s door uninvited. You don’t know that person’s schedule or what they may be doing (sleeping? sex? whatever). I didn’t accuse you of lying. Not once. Not even implicitly. I don’t know what time you wake up, and said as much, right? I’m not too keen on people showing up at my house uninvited either. (and that includes friends!) ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/68 "2006-03-25T20:47:39Z")
> [@the raindog](#): > > I didn’t accuse you of lying. Not once. Not even implicitly. “But we wouldn’t want the truth to get in the way of a good story.” sure sounds like it to me. ---
**Author:** ![Fish\_Cheer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fish_cheer/32/17179_2.png) [@Fish\_Cheer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fish_Cheer)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/69 "2006-03-25T20:50:43Z")
> [@the raindog](#): > > I’m not too keen on people showing up at my house uninvited either. (and that includes friends!) For me that even includes _girl_friends. But I can’t hold that against the JWs - the girls know, they don’t. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 25, 2006, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/70 "2006-03-25T23:16:21Z")
> [@the raindog](#): > > I didn’t accuse you of lying. Not once. Not even implicitly. Yes, in fact, you did accuse us both of lying. Explicitly. I don’t know about **OpalCat** , but I’d like an apology. I don’t appreciate being accused of dishonesty. ---
**Author:** ![kaiwik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaiwik/32/3978_2.png) [@kaiwik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaiwik)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/71 "2006-03-26T00:45:38Z")
As a lapsed LDS I had the missionaries sent to my door by an ever-so-helpful (not) neighbor. I was young (22) and tried to reasonably explain that I wasn’t going to let them in, I didn’t want to talk about The Church, blah blah blah. Finally the senior missionary asked if I still had my testimony that Joseph Smith was a Prophet of God. When I responded with “I have a testimony that Joseph Smith was a liar” they took several steps backward (to avoid the bolt of lightning, I am certain) and they never returned. A few years ago (different state) my neighborhood was apparently on a scheduled proselytizing effort. I answered the door, all floury from baking, and found to my dismay two bright and shiny faces connected to LDS missionary boys. I smiled and reiterated that I was absolutely not interested, thank you. After their persistence began to wear thin, I gave them my brightest smile and asked “Are you really going to force me to be rude?” They apologized, left, and I haven’t had an LDS missionary at my door since. I am less kind to the JayDubs, although I attempt to be reasonably polite, but there was a time when the LDS church was a good place for me. My experiences with the Jehovah’s Witnesses has never been positive. ---
**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/72 "2006-03-26T01:03:52Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Yes, in fact, you did accuse us both of lying. Explicitly. I don’t know about **OpalCat** , but I’d like an apology. I don’t appreciate being accused of dishonesty. No, in fact, _I did not._ An example of me _ **Expicitly** _ calling you a liar would look like something like this: > [@](#): > > Miller, you are a liar Now of course I actually said, > [@](#): > > Don’t know what time you wake up of course, but they weren’t at your door, or Miller’s, at 6:00 a.m. > > But we wouldn’t want the truth to get in the way of a good story. which may be, at best, an _ **Implicit** _ example of me calling you a liar—and that’s only if **that** is the meaning _ **you** _ attach to _ **my** _ words. That was certainly not my intent. (read: _my_ meaning) At any rate, for all I know you may be using a liberal creative license in re-telling the story (an extremely common thing, best I can tell), or maybe you remember the time wrong considering they woke you up, or maybe you can’t tell time, or maybe you were hung over…or maybe you’re lying. I don’t know----and to know that I woukld be required to know what you were thinking. And…I don’t know that. I _do_ know that the JWs were **not** knocking at your door at 6:00 a.m. (FTR, I try to be quick to apologize when it is appropriate. I hope/trust you understand that I was not calling you a liar, and so at least in this instance I won’t be aplogizing.) ---
**Author:** ![wevets](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e9a140/32.png) [@wevets](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wevets)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/73 "2006-03-26T03:22:54Z")
> [@the raindog](#): > > I _do_ know that the JWs were **not** knocking at your door at 6:00 a.m. Let’s assume for a moment that you are aware JW church policy is not to proselytize before ordinary people’s business hours. You are willing to assert that no one violated this policy at a time and location where you were not present? Unless you can prove that you were at **Miller** ’s or **OpalCat** ’s house at 6 am on the day in question… What does an apology cost you anyway? :dubious: More polite phrasing for your sentiment would have been “It’s really unlikely for them to show up at 6 am, the church frowns on that because people don’t like it.” See how that wouldn’t have accused anyone of lying? 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![whiterabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/cab0a1/32.png) [@whiterabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/whiterabbit)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/74 "2006-03-26T03:41:29Z")
LDS missionaries in my experience are perfectly nice people. However, I do think what they’re doing is really rude and arrogant; my religion is my business, and I could easily contact them myself. But I can’t bring myself to be rude to them, I’m sure they get plenty of that. Mostly, though, I hate people dropping by. What if the place is a mess and I’m hanging around in pajamas, which is likely since I don’t usually stay dressed at home? If I wanted to see you, I’d have arranged it and would also be dressed. I don’t care what you want, if I don’t know you’re coming, get off my doorstep. ---
**Author:** ![Moridin23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@Moridin23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moridin23)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/75 "2006-03-26T04:23:44Z")
I must confess that in my only experience with either the LDS or JW (I believe that they were JW but I can’t be sure), I pretended to not be home. In my defense, I had a perfectly reasonable reason (at least in my opinion). Prior to my senior year of high school, I broke my kneecap and was on crutches for several weeks. My parents had driven out to Illinois (where we have relatives) and I had elected to stay home, since the thought of riding ~8 hours (coming from PA) in a car with a cast and crutches is one of the least appealing things I can think of doing. It was sometime during the afternoon, and I happened to be on the second floor of our house. I heard a vehicle come up the driveway, and hobbled my way to a front bedroom to look out the window. I believe it was a red minivan. Exiting the vehicle were (as far as I can remember) a man, a woman, and maybe one or two kids. They walked up to the door and rang the doorbell. I considered the possibilities. I could hobble my way down the hallway, down the stairs, and to the front door, and talk to these people for who knows how long. Or, I could keep quiet, pretend to not be home, and hope they went away shortly, thus saving myself some trouble. I chose the latter option. Hobbling down the stairs just to talk some missionaries might actually have been less appealing than the 8 hour car ride… ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/76 "2006-03-26T04:36:07Z")
> [@gotpasswords](#): > > Get a [broadsword](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2826351&postcount=18). I miss that guy. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/77 "2006-03-26T05:11:47Z")
Hi Opal! 😃 > [@swampbear](#): > > **Gigobuster** surely you have been around long enough to know that dopers would be interested in it. Especially now since you’ve mentioned it. Now we just gotta know! We’re [del]nosy[/del] inquisitive like that. A little bit long, but ignore the references at the end if you want to: > [@Billdo](#): > > I have good friends who are LDS, both of whom are returned missionaries. > > My understanding is that most LDS missionaries are busy enough with people who have an interest in hearing their message that they don’t feel the need to spend a lot of time pushing themselves on those who are uninterested. > > Essentially, they said that they had a “low hanging fruit” mentality, seeking to convert those who showed a good chance of being converted, and leaving the rest for another time (or perhaps another eternity, as the case may be). They recognized that it was futile to push their message on the unreceptive. Needed to quote a little from \*\*Billdo \*\* because it fits what happened: If it was me I would have politely send them on his way, but a friend of the family that was a Mormon confused my Dale Carnegie trained father as a good candidate for conversion and convinced him to set a meet with the family. Two missionaries and a big guy that I assume was an Elder came in. We had our greetings and they set a small display in the middle of the living room, they had a book open to the picture of Joseph Smith getting the call, and then began their history and message, mostly the basics and how fortunate was America for having Jesus appear in this continent! According to the Book of Mormon of course. But the main message was the life of Joseph Smith and how he got his vision. Well that was nice, but then I asked for what archaeological evidence was there for the book of Mormon? [This is the moment they began to realize we were not a very low hanging fruit] Quickly they flipped pages from a book on evidence they had and showed us the ( poor) evidence there was. \* They had to tap dance out of that one, IIRC they pointed to doctrines that tell them that locations are open to interpretation and better candidates are still out there, like the Mesoamerican temples and some pottery and metal stuff, but no good evidence IMO. I pointed out then about the massive battles that had occurred like in the Cumorah hill and I asked then where were all the iron weapons or bones from the terrific battle? \*\* But the deal breaker came up when mother and I demanded an explanation on why and how, according to the Book, the Indians in America became dark skinned. \*\*\* [http://www.realmormonhistory.com/god&skin.htm](http://www.realmormonhistory.com/god&skin.htm) > [@](#): > > According to the Book of Mormon, the church’s sacred scripture, God darkens people who sin. This is the Mormon church’s explanation for the color of the American Indians: > > “…wherefore, as they were white, and exceeding fair and delightsome, that they might not be enticing unto my people the Lord God did cause a SKIN OF BLACKNESS to come upon them.” > (Book of Mormon, page 61, 2 Nephi 5, verse 21) > > “And the skins of the Lamanites were DARK, according to the mark which was set upon their fathers, which WAS A CURSE upon them because of their transgression…” (Book of Mormon, page 201, Alma 3, verse 6) > > “…for this people shall be scattered, and shall become a DARK, a filthy, and a loathsome people, beyond the description of that which ever hath been amongst us,…” (Book of Mormon, page 468, Mormon 5, verse 15) I did ask then if that was so, then if we became Mormons and repented, we should turn white? 🙂 \*\*\*\* I also made the point that I would have expected to see a Latino missionary by now, implying that the LDS still has ways to go. Suddenly there was the “oh, look at the time! we got to go!” moment and promptly packed the stuff and with their faces turned red (not of embarrassment let me tell you) it was a wonder though that they still could say a polite goodbye and had a shake of hands, from the Elder that is. The missionaries were looking really upset and silent, it was an awkward moment and instead of waiting for the Elder (who was saying goodbyes to other family members).I decided to be conciliatory for a change. ## I said not to feel bad, that we all believed in Christ (well, my family, I was then turning Agnostic) and we were only different on the way we prayed but we were all brothers. That did it, and we all shook hands in better spirits, of course the Elder or Missionaries did complain to the friend of the family because he then complained to us that the missionaries were disappointed that we did not turn as expected. New References The following references were found on my current search, and I wish I had them when I encountered them: - [MORMONISM - Is there any archaeological evidence for the claims made in The Book of Mormon regarding Jesus' visit to the Americas? - ChristianAnswers.Net](http://www.christiananswers.net/q-cc/cc-archaeology.html) > [@](#): > > According to the Smithsonian Institute of Washington, D.C., USA, the following items (which, according to The Book of Mormon, existed in the Americas between 600 B.C. and 421 A.D.) have absolutely no evidence for existing in the America’s during the time in question: > Silk - Alma 4:6, Nephi 13:7, Alma 1:29 > Horses - Enos 1:21, Alma 18:9, 3 Nephi 3: 1, Nephi 18:25 > Steel - Jarom 1:8, 2 Nephi 5:15,16, 1 Nephi 4:9, 16:18 > Iron - 2 Nephi 5:15, 20:34, Jarom 1:8, Mosiah 11:8 > Coins - Alma 11:5-19 > Donkeys - 1 Nephi 18:25, Mosiah 5:14, 12:5 > Cattle, Cow, and Oxen - Enos 1:21; 3 Nephi 3:22, 6: 1 Nephi 18:25 > Pigs - 3 Nephi 7:8 > Grain and Wheat - Mosiah 9:9; Helaman 11:17 \*\* > [@](#): > > Mormon 6:9-15 states that many thousands of men fought a great battle armed with swords, bows, arrows and axes, but have archaeologists discovered any of these items dating back to that time period on this continent? According to Ether 15:2, two million Jaredite peoples (men, women and children) were killed in battle, yet there is not a trace of this battle anywhere. Ether 15:15 claims that men, women, and children armed with shields, breastplates, and headplates, fought a great battle with much loss of life – yet not one article of battle has been found to date. Well kimosabe, the latest Mormon research points at Mesoamerica as the most likely place for the acts of the book of Mormon, even pointing El Cerro Vigia, a hill in southern Mexico, as Hill Comorah! Problem is, it follows then that the LDS is fleecing believers in the wrong place then: [http://www.hillcumorah.org/cumorah.asp](http://www.hillcumorah.org/cumorah.asp) [http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/cumorah.htm](http://www.utlm.org/onlineresources/cumorah.htm) \*\*\* Other evidence that I whish I had then: No, god did not curse the indians, DNA and a Mormon (!) says so: > **[Church put to DNA test](https://www.seattlepi.com/news/article/Church-put-to-DNA-test-1105126.php)** > > The unassuming instructor with the soft voice holds a phone to each ear, juggling cell and... > [@](#): > > Murphy, 35-year-old chairman of the Edmonds Community College Anthropology Department, contends DNA analysis contradicts Book of Mormon claims that American Indians are descended from ancient heathen Israelites, an argument he will outline in a 1 1/2-hour talk today at the University of Washington. > > He’s out to expose what he calls “racism” in scriptural texts. “The Book of Mormon assumes that dark skin is a curse for wickedness. I’m trying to examine where that idea came from,” he says. > > His stand could make Murphy the first Mormon in church history to face excommunication for publishing conclusions on the basis of genetic research. > > In December, the local stake of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints scheduled a disciplinary council and informed Murphy he faced the possibility of excommunication, or expulsion from the church. But the president of the stake – a district made up of a number of wards – indefinitely postponed the council after the debate hit the press and supporters staged rallies across the country. > > Their signs said, “Proud to be a DNA Mormon,” “You can’t excommunicate facts” and “No, God didn’t curse the Indians.” > > Murphy says he was shocked at the postponement. “I was convinced I would be excommunicated.” > > He wants to take the postponement as a positive sign: “My hope is that it means the church will be more willing to tolerate open discussion of the Book of Mormon and the problems associated with it.” > > But he is also on guard. “I still face expulsion,” he says. “They could hold the court at any time.” \*\*\*\* You know, it would have been trippy if Michael Jackson had been a Mormon :). To be fair, Mormons go to lots of pain now to show that they eliminated the so called idea about the curse of Cain, but they did so by changing their scripture too! > [@](#): > > The Book of Mormon, however, predicts that the Indians will repent of their sins and become white: > > “…and many generations shall not pass away among them, save they shall be a WHITE AND DELIGHTSOME PEOPLE.” > (Book of Mormon, page 102, 2 Nephi 30, verse 6. (The word “WHITE” was changed to “PURE” in later editions of the Book of Mormon)) ---
**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 5:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/78 "2006-03-26T05:43:34Z")
> [@wevets](#): > > Unless you can prove that you were at **Miller** ’s or **OpalCat** ’s house at 6 am on the day in question… I just want to reiterate that my quoting of Miller’s post wasn’t meant to imply that missinaries ever came to my door at 6am, just to say that one of the reasons I didn’t like them is that they came while I was still sleeping. ---
**Author:** ![Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f08c70/32.png) [@Crowbar\_of\_Irony\_3](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crowbar_of_Irony_3)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/79 "2006-03-26T10:16:37Z")
> [@gotpasswords](#): > > Get a [broadsword](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=2826351&postcount=18). I remember there was a simliar incident involving a chainsaw too. Anyone got a link to it? ---
**Author:** ![DMark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@DMark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DMark)\ **Post date:** [March 26, 2006, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749/80 "2006-03-26T11:11:12Z")
I live in Las Vegas. More Mormons here than there are slot machines…I worked for an office full of them. Believe it or not, Mormons are big when casinos hire - they don’t gamble or drink…perfect for employers at casinos! The Mormons I worked with are a bit like Catholics…officially they have to be staid church members, but one-on-one, well, the stories are a LOT different. I have met Gay Mormons, Mormons who drink, Mormons who gamble…but that is only in one-on-one conversations. My major problem with the Mormons is their homophobia (one of the many reasons I am also an ex-Catholic) and also the Mormons tend to give holier-than-thou a whole new meaning. When you have a conversation with a true Mormon, you quickly learn what a cult member is. A woman I know moved to Salt Lake City…her stories of living there as a black, Baptist, single mother are both hysterically funny and tragic. So on the very rare occasion that LDS boys ring the bell at my house, I am tempted to invite them in and get naked and offer them a Miller Lite…but in reality, I just say no thanks. The Mormons I know have all gone on missions…most to foreign countries…and one thing I will give them credit for, when they return to the USA, they have a better perspective of world politics than most Americans…and quite a few return to the USA as Democrats! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-had-a-few-lds-missionaries-visit-my-house/349749.md?page=5)