# I just love it when someone kills a legislator!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [January 5, 2001, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544 "2001-01-05T06:58:47Z")\
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**Author:** ![Olentzero](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/90ced4/32.png) [@Olentzero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Olentzero)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2001, 6:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544/61 "2001-01-07T06:37:09Z")

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I never, EVER in my life, thought there would be any reason for me to be ashamed to admit I grew up in Nashua, NH.

For some reason this guy’s name is familiar to me. I’m sure I’ve seen his name on a couple letters to the editor of the Nashua _Telegraph_ - it may have stuck in my head because he seemed like such a nutcase back then, too.

FWIW, the Washington _Post_ printed that he’d tried at one point to run a Web dating service for Nashua High School students. Two of the sections?

“He wants it bad”  
“She wants it bad”

**shudder** Not all of us from Nashua are like that, honest!

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**Author:** ![Montfort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Montfort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Montfort)\
**Post date:** [January 7, 2001, 6:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544/62 "2001-01-07T06:57:30Z")

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There’s one guy who hangs around in DC politics that I always keep my eye out for: John Capozzi.

I met him when I was at a job fair in college, and he helped get me an interview with some company. He mentioned that he was a “former DC councilman” and was a big-shot in the DC politics. I, being a naive college kid, thought he was really impressive. Then, I spied his name in the _City Paper_’s “Loose Lips” column and saw that he’s a person of great mockery in town.

Anyway, he’s the kind of person I expect to get elected someday, and then say something wacky like this.

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**Author:** ![SterlingNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8dc957/32.png) [@SterlingNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SterlingNorth)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2001, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544/63 "2001-01-09T06:07:43Z")

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The good news… he’s offering to resign.

The bad news… he might run again for the seat after he resigns.

> [@](#):
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> CONCORD, N.H. –– A freshman state lawmaker who stunned his constituents by revealing his support for the killing of police officers said Monday that he would resign under certain conditions.  
> Republican Tom Alciere, 41, said he would step down if other lawmakers agree to shepherd his bills through the New Hampshire House.  
> However, he reserved the right to run in the special election that would be needed to fill his Nashua seat.  
> “Should I do so, the voters then will have an opportunity to confirm what they said last November – in which case I shall return – or to retract what they said, in which case I can move on to bigger and better things…” Alciere said at a news conference.  
> He gave no reason for his change of heart.  
> Alciere’s bills propose drug legalization, barring involuntary commitments to mental institutions and the replacement of public schools with online learning. House spokeswoman Susan Wood said it may be too late to switch sponsors.

And so on and so forth.  
[http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32336-2001Jan8.html](http://washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A32336-2001Jan8.html)

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**Author:** ![Short](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b38774/32.png) [@Short](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Short)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2001, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544/64 "2001-01-09T06:56:10Z")

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Tom Alciere: America’s argument for gun control.

In addition to Dornam’s already mentioned comment, there is G. Gordon Liddy’s famous advice to shoot “the feds” in the head, “…that way their flak jackets won’t protect them.”

And who can forget Jesse Helms, whom the Secret Service requested the US Attorney’s office prosecute for threatening the president.

Source: _Downsize This_By Michael Moore

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**Author:** ![jmullaney](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@jmullaney](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jmullaney)\
**Post date:** [January 9, 2001, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544/65 "2001-01-09T15:44:56Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Short \*  
> Tom Alciere: America’s argument for gun control.

Well, I still think this is a snow job. Doesn’t anyone have this guys quotes **in context**?

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**Author:** ![super\_head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@super\_head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/super_head)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2001, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544/66 "2001-01-10T05:11:33Z")

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> \*Originally posted by jmullaney \*  
> \*\*Well, I still think this is a snow job. Doesn’t anyone have this guys quotes in context? \*\*

I don’t know about you, but this seems rather indicative of his love of law enforcement…

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Subject: How BP agents deserve to be treated.  
Date: 05/03/2000  
Author: Tom Alciere \<[tomalciere@netway.com](mailto:tomalciere@netway.com)\>

Here’s what happened: These people were  
peacefully bringing their crop to market when a BP  
goon confronted them in order to violate their  
right to bring their crop to market and to violate  
the right of the American people to enjoy the  
crops of their choice. They fought back. The BP  
goon and its government paid a price.

[http://www.odmp.org/cgi-bin/officer.pl?id=000325](http://www.odmp.org/cgi-bin/officer.pl?id=000325)

Tom Alciere

– end post –

Yeah, seems like a very peaceful type, except the crop was drugs (which is another debate) and the price paid was a dead border patrol agent. So, in effect, the charming Mr. Alciere is saying that the treatment BP agents deserve is a bullet in the head. Sorry, I don’t think he’s been taken out of context.

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**Author:** ![super\_head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@super\_head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/super_head)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2001, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544/67 "2001-01-10T05:17:50Z")

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…I personally like the way Mr. Alciere refers to the killing of a cop as “bringing the cop to justice” - such a humanitarian he is!

Subject: Join the fun at Winchester Online  
Date: 06/15/2000  
Author: Tom Alciere \<[tomalciere@netway.com](mailto:tomalciere@netway.com)\>

It’s about the cop that the Jamaican drug dealer  
brought to justice on 29 Oct 1999. My web site  
contains links to the news articles relevant, at  
[http://www.una-novia.com/timbrook.html](http://www.una-novia.com/timbrook.html) but my  
narrative may be a little misleading about the  
degree of confrontation before the dealer began  
running.  
Anyway, I’ve been swamped by Winchester VA  
residents who are wrongly believing that the  
cop-killer was not justified in defending  
himself. Maybe you could offer your thoughts at  
[http://www.winchesteronline.com/cgi-bin/wwwboard/wwwboard.html](http://www.winchesteronline.com/cgi-bin/wwwboard/wwwboard.html)

Tom Alciere

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**Author:** ![super\_head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@super\_head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/super_head)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2001, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544/68 "2001-01-10T05:25:14Z")

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Note, Tom doesn’t say “some” cops are liars…he says ALL cops are liars. And this in context too.

–post follows –

Subject: inmate stripped, beaten  
Date: 07/09/2000  
Author: Tom Alciere \<[tom\_alciere@my-deja.com](mailto:tom_alciere@my-deja.com)\>

[http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/Daily\_Sections/News/Archives/2000/july/st](http://www.nashuatelegraph.com/Daily_Sections/News/Archives/2000/july/st) ories/0709w-jailbeating.htm

Hint #1: You may need to fill in this wrap-around URL

Hint #2: Never go by what the law enforcement goons say, because they’re nothing but a God-damned bunch of liars.

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**Author:** ![super\_head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d6d6ee/32.png) [@super\_head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/super_head)\
**Post date:** [January 10, 2001, 5:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/i-just-love-it-when-someone-kills-a-legislator/48544/69 "2001-01-10T05:27:28Z")

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One more you say? OK, here it is… and god forbid anyone claim this man is reasonable or being taken out of context.

—begin post –

Subject: CA gunman makes cop PAY for illegal stop  
Date: 07/11/2000  
Author: Tom Alciere \<[tom\_alciere@my-deja.com](mailto:tom_alciere@my-deja.com)\>

[http://www.channel2000.com/news/stories/news-20000710-131019.html](http://www.channel2000.com/news/stories/news-20000710-131019.html)

Will cops ever learn that there’s a PRICE to be paid for illegal traffic stops?

Gee, according to this link,

[http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article\_1](http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/.const/.article_1)

the people have a right “to be secure…against unreasonable searches and seizures”  
so, if the cop was in the wrong, as it presumably was, then the driver was in the right to shoot it.  
Let us hope the cop will be unable to serve its evil government in the future, whether it lives or not.  
BTW I don’t like cops.

Tom

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